Saorview

Clauric

Not sure if this is the right forum, but the satelite forum doesn't seem right either.

I was looking through the DL Informer and saw an ad for Saorview Combi-Pack (from page, bottom right corner). Anyway, I rang the company to get prices, and find out what was involved. They answered the phone as "Saorview" amd said that they would ring me back (it sounded like the guy was in a van/car). They rang me back, from a mobile number, and proceeded on a lecture/spiel about Soarview and what was available. It turns out that this combi-pack is a Irish Saorview box connected to an ariel and the same box also connected to a British Freeview satelite. They told me that it would cost about €120 for the "bronze package" but this is just Soarview, while the "gold package" is €320.

I went and looked at the Soarview website, but it says that it does not offer these services. It also does not allow anybody to use the Saorview name or logos to sell.

My question is: is this somebody purporting to be an official Saorview representative (didn't think there was such a thing) or, it this a genuine?

jor el

Clauric wrote: »

My question is: is this somebody purporting to be an official Saorview representative (didn't think there was such a thing) or, it this a genuine?

No one here knows who you were talking to, so how can they answer this question?

There are lots of TV installers offering Saorview services, for which they charge you the cost of the box, cabling and installation. Some of these also include UK FTA satellite.

TheDriver

its someone using the name of saorview wrongly which isn't good but having said that, his service is probably grand I am sure. Make sure he is registered and has insurance etc and not some cowboy, ask for an address where he has done work so you can see straight away if the aerial is hanging off a back gate or something

foggy_lad

There are a lot of Cowboys telling people they are "Saorview" and that they need new "digital" aerials when the aerial they have is more than adequate. Only a very small number of people will need a new aerial, if you currently get all 4 Irish channels using your aerial you do not need a new one!

Also remember that MANY newer televisions can already get Saorview without any set top box!

Some charge a lot more than you were quoted OP but if you look at the Satellite section on Adverts.ie and price a sky dish, LNB, satellite receiver 10-15meters of cable and a saorview set top box it should cost very little and if you know a handyman locally they would be well able to install the dish and point it to 28.2E using a sat-finder(about €10)

It can be done well for a lot cheaper than €320!

chopsey

I dont work for TVTRADE.ie or have no idea who does but i got one of these combi solutions from them and had no problems fitting it myself.

it cost me around €210 delivered for everything but like the last post said when i got to my mums house she already had the proper ariel so i had bought an ariel that i didnt need.

i found them to be very helpful and knew exactly what i was looking for. My mum now has all the UK Freeview channels and all the Saorview channels with no bills.

he shouldnt be using the Saorview name i'd imagine but people call themselves Sky installers which uses the Sky name so not sure what the difference is?

foggy_lad

Sky dish and quad LNB can be got for €30 including wall bracket and 4 bolts to fix it to the wall.
receiver can be got for as little as €20 HD for as little as €30.
saorview box can cost about €70 but might not be required.
cable clips and a satellite finder for about €20.

Either DIY the installation and cost is €80-€150 or get a handyman to install and cost is maybe €50-€70 more

Peter Rhea

Get a proper installer, never mind the handyman.

icdg

Moving to Terrestrial. This is a big problem, make no mistake - there's a lot of cowboys out there trying to profit out of DSO/ASO. As usual can we name no names please.

Extinction

A registered or competent installer won't tell you he's from Saorview and wont describe the saorview service in terms of packages, also an installer who is a professional will give you a saorview approved combi box and installation for a similar enough price, if it is slightly dearer it is only because he has overheads such as insurance and its worth the peace of mind to have an insured installer just in case an accident should happen.

Another thing to bear in mind is that rather than just giving you a straight forward quote for a full installation an installer would usually ask if you have a dish or aerial already installed on your property as he wont install them if you dont need them and that reduces the cost to you.

PogMoThoin

Extinction wrote: »

A registered or competent installer won't tell you he's from Saorview and wont describe the saorview service in terms of packages, also an installer who is a professional will give you a saorview approved combi box and installation for a similar enough price, if it is slightly dearer it is only because he has overheads such as insurance and its worth the peace of mind to have an insured installer just in case an accident should happen.

Another thing to bear in mind is that rather than just giving you a straight forward quote for a full installation an installer would usually ask if you have a dish or aerial already installed on your property as he wont install them if you dont need them and that reduces the cost to you.

Sorry, but thats not possible, an approved combo is €180ish retail on it's own. A dish and aerial and cabling on top of that is going to be lots more expensive than the €320 quoted, to any installer.

Extinction

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Sorry, but thats not possible, an approved combo is €180ish retail on it's own. A dish and aerial and cabling on top of that is going to be lots more expensive than the €320 quoted, to any installer.

An installer will pay trade prices for a reciever, he wont be buying from a retailer as he is a retailer himself, the cost to trade is less than €180.

PogMoThoin

Extinction wrote: »

An installer will pay trade prices for a reciever, he wont be buying from a retailer as he is a retailer himself, the cost to trade is less than €180.

Yes, the installer buys it at trade prices and sells it at 180. It's not possible for any installer do an approved combo install for €320 because the box retails at 180. No installer will supply and fit a sat dish and an aerial for €140, which is what you're saying.

Extinction

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Yes, the installer buys it at trade prices and sells it at 180. It's not possible for any installer do an approved combo install for €320 because the box retails at 180. No installer will supply and fit a sat dish and an aerial for €140, which is what you're saying.

Why would an installer put an individul retail price on a combi box when he's doing a full installation? Surely he would calculate his costs on the trade price for box, aerial and dish and then add the cost of labour? Why would he look to make a retail profit off a combi box, a retail profit off an aerial, a retail profit off a dish and then charge labour on top of that?

PogMoThoin

Extinction wrote: »

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Yes, the installer buys it at trade prices and sells it at 180. It's not possible for any installer do an approved combo install for €320 because the box retails at 180. No installer will supply and fit a sat dish and an aerial for €140, which is what you're saying.

Why would an installer put an individul retail price on a combi box when he's doing a full installation? Surely he would calculate his costs on the trade price for box, aerial and dish and then add the cost of labour? Why would he look to make a retail profit off a combi box, a retail profit off an aerial, a retail profit off a dish and then charge labour on top of that?

WTF? Why would anyone supply and fit a Saorview box and charge trade price without markup? I never said anything about retail prices for all, it would be priced as a job, but it's not possible to supply and fit an aerial, sat dish and supply an official combo for 320. You claim it is?

Extinction

PogMoThoin wrote: »

WTF? Why would anyone supply and fit a Saorview box and charge trade price without markup? I never said anything about retail prices for all, it would be priced as a job, but it's not possible to supply and fit an aerial, sat dish and supply an official combo for 320. You claim it is?

Ok so what you are saying is that you would go to a customer to do an install and you would want to profit from both the installation and a mark up on equipment? Why would you not cost an installation by adding up your equipment costs and installation charge?

Yes I claim it is possible to install for €320, I charge between €320 and €350 for a full installation depending on the type of aerial needed and I am a registered and insured installer paying vat and income tax and using saorview approved recievers, sheilded equipment and double screened cable. What would you charge?

Extinction

And just to add to that, my prices are between 50 and 70 euro dearer than my local cowboys who are using the TSC114 combi so how could I expect to charge even more and get any work at all?

PogMoThoin

Extinction wrote: »

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Ok so what you are saying is that you would go to a customer to do an install and you would want to profit from both the installation and a mark up on equipment? Why would you not cost an installation by adding up your equipment costs and installation charge?

Yes I claim it is possible to install for €320, I charge between €320 and €350 for a full installation depending on the type of aerial needed and I am a registered and insured installer paying vat and income tax and using saorview approved recievers, sheilded equipment and double screened cable. What would you charge?

What would I charge?
€300 + VAT which I feel is closer to the price it should be, not 320 all in. I am also insured, paying income tax with all above board. If they weren't happy with that let them go to next fella.

FRIENDO

Clauric wrote: »

Not sure if this is the right forum, but the satelite forum doesn't seem right either.

I was looking through the DL Informer and saw an ad for Saorview Combi-Pack (from page, bottom right corner). Anyway, I rang the company to get prices, and find out what was involved. They answered the phone as "Saorview" amd said that they would ring me back (it sounded like the guy was in a van/car). They rang me back, from a mobile number, and proceeded on a lecture/spiel about Soarview and what was available. It turns out that this combi-pack is a Irish Saorview box connected to an ariel and the same box also connected to a British Freeview satelite. They told me that it would cost about €120 for the "bronze package" but this is just Soarview, while the "gold package" is €320.

I went and looked at the Soarview website, but it says that it does not offer these services. It also does not allow anybody to use the Saorview name or logos to sell.

My question is: is this somebody purporting to be an official Saorview representative (didn't think there was such a thing) or, it this a genuine?

Hi Clauric,
If I was looking to have Saorview installed I would contact an Installer from one of the 3 recognised trade bodies mentioned in the above Saorview site
http://www.saorview.ie/make-the-switch/understand-what-you-need-avoid-scams/

The Installers on the above 3 bodies could also do Freesat install or a combi install