Remington .220 Modal 597

Tawny Owl

Hi Lads what are these guns like a Remington .220 Model 597 with a Tasco Pronghorn Scope and Mod was offered one.

Chiparus

Depends, how much?
Accurate, but lots of problems with the magazines, there was a major recall for the 17 version, and a lot of people lost money as a result.

I would get a 10/22 ruger , should be able to get at around 450 new.

Tawny Owl

Chiparus wrote: »

Depends, how much?
Accurate, but lots of problems with the magazines, there was a major recall for the 17 version, and a lot of people lost money as a result.

I would get a 10/22 ruger , should be able to get at around 450 new.

Thanks for the reply was offered it to get me started at € 150.00 and as you say he has problems the magazine jams sometimes he saying its a spring are they easy to replace or am I best to stay away from it as I said its just to get me going towards a better Gun

EWQuinn

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_Model_597

I have exactly the same rifle and scope, I really like both. I use the Federal 550 Value Pack (1,260 fps 36gr plated HP), it does 1" - 2" at 60yd with the budget ammo. I can do better with more expensive stuff. See link above, there were problems with the first generation magazines. I have a 3rd gen magazine and it works fine. I have approx 1,000 rds through it without any failure to feed. Here in USA you can get the 10 rd mags for $12. If getting a new mag in Ireland is a big deal, you might stay away from it. However, if its the mag and you can replace, then may be ok deal. I'd be interested in knowing when he bought the rifle or when it was made.

For what its worth, Remington lists this guy as an authorized dealer:

GOWEN & BRADSHAW LTD TEL: +353 (0)91 483100
Unit 10, Glenascaul Business Park FAX: +353 (0)91 787007
Oranmore, Galway, Ireland Email:sales@gowbrad.ie
Contact: Toby Bradshaw

Tawny Owl

EWQuinn wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_Model_597

I have exactly the same rifle and scope, I really like both. I use the Federal 550 Value Pack (1,260 fps 36gr plated HP), it does 1" - 2" at 60yd with the budget ammo. I can do better with more expensive stuff. See link above, there were problems with the first generation magazines. I have a 3rd gen magazine and it works fine. I have approx 1,000 rds through it without any failure to feed. Here in USA you can get the 10 rd mags for $12. If getting a new mag in Ireland is a big deal, you might stay away from it. However, if its the mag and you can replace, then may be ok deal. I'd be interested in knowing when he bought the rifle or when it was made.

For what its worth, Remington lists this guy as an authorized dealer:

GOWEN & BRADSHAW LTD TEL: +353 (0)91 483100
Unit 10, Glenascaul Business Park FAX: +353 (0)91 787007
Oranmore, Galway, Ireland Email:sales@gowbrad.ie
Contact: Toby Bradshaw

Hi EWQuinn thanks very much for all the information I will see if I can get any back ground as to when the Rifle was made regarding mag I think I can get one in a local Gun shop

EWQuinn

One other idea occured to me. It may not be practical for you. If this is a big investment, that is coping with the regulations etc require you to really look before you leap, then perhaps you could go ahead and buy a magazine, then meet the seller at a shooting club or suitable land with a box of ammo. Then see if the rifle shoots with a new magazine and the ammo you prefer. If it doesnt work, then maybe you could sell the magazine back through the gun shop or at a gun club, or on the local web page. The laws or the hassle may make my idea impractical, just a thought.

Tawny Owl

Thanks again for all your help the person selling the Gun lives next door too me as to the Rifle I have shot it before on land he has and at € 150.00 thats not a lot of money and the licence is only € 80.00 it's only to get me started I intend to move up to a better Rifle it will be a stepping stone for me.:)

Tawny Owl

EWQuinn wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_Model_597

I have exactly the same rifle and scope, I really like both. I use the Federal 550 Value Pack (1,260 fps 36gr plated HP), it does 1" - 2" at 60yd with the budget ammo. I can do better with more expensive stuff. See link above, there were problems with the first generation magazines. I have a 3rd gen magazine and it works fine. I have approx 1,000 rds through it without any failure to feed. Here in USA you can get the 10 rd mags for $12. If getting a new mag in Ireland is a big deal, you might stay away from it. However, if its the mag and you can replace, then may be ok deal. I'd be interested in knowing when he bought the rifle or when it was made.

For what its worth, Remington lists this guy as an authorized dealer:

GOWEN & BRADSHAW LTD TEL: +353 (0)91 483100
Unit 10, Glenascaul Business Park FAX: +353 (0)91 787007
Oranmore, Galway, Ireland Email:sales@gowbrad.ie
Contact: Toby Bradshaw

Just broke the whole Gun down in the sellers House and it was very dirty cleaned the springs and anything we could take apart he only has the Gun 6 Months and has never broken it down before and was very surprised with the condition it was in forgot to ask anything on when it was made I dont know where to look and pointers as to where I would get these dates or ref numbers all that is left now is ring to your contact in Galway or another Gun shop closer for a Magazine I am starting to fill out the paperwork tomorrow to apply for the Licence.:)

EWQuinn

If the rifle is cleaned & lubricated properly, it should function ok with a good magazine. The initial bad magazines were plastic, new ones are aluminum. I agree if its not a high a price, then no need to worry too much anyway. Link below tells how to determine yr of manufacture. My 597 has a "D" for the year code which means it was made in 2009.

http://www.rc-trucks.org/remington-firearms-serial-numbers.htm

Remington site link below has a download for an owners manual if you need it:

http://www.remington.com/products/archived/rimfire/autoloading/model-597.aspx

A chap over on the Shooting forum found this dealer today who includes Remington, you might try them too. They look like a pretty good outfit to me (I guess there are still some legal gun outlets and shooting in UK after all.)

http://www.valmontfirearms.co.uk/index.html

Good luck with the license! The local members here or the Moderators can assist you with the legal stuff and what is legal. I just tested some new ammo in mine today. I will try and post my Rem 597 shooting results over on the Shooting page since others here seem to have some interest in the rifle.

Tawny Owl

Ordered the Magazine this Morning through your contact in Galway they referred me to my local Gun Dealer which is when I rang the seller of the Gun and he went in with his Licence to order the Magazine for the Remington will take a couple of weeks the Galway contact said there waiting on them to come in Thanks again.

Chiparus

i had the newer, alluminium mag , still had feeding problems as the "staggered" method of stacking the bullets would get stuck , you had to take the mag out and give it a bang to get the bullets to pop up.

I think it is a problem that the 22 round does not lend itself to staggered stacking, all other 22 mags are stacked on top of each other.

EWQuinn

http://tfrwiki.midworld.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Remington_597_Modifications_Guide

Here is a link from UK with some good ideas on how to repair or adjust. I bench tested mine yesterday and published results on the Shooting forum. The trigger pull weight being as much as the rifle weight, and the blow back action makes bench testing a challenge. The rifle was designed for more practical applications, unless you get a heavy stock and/or bull barrel. By that time and expense I would be into a different rifle. The exploded view is gone, but you can just download the owners manual from the link in my earlier post for that. Happy shooting!

Tawny Owl

Just got my Licence for the Remington 597 LR today took all of three weeks now I am only delighted just one thing do I zero it at 50 yards or 100 yards what is best

Thanks to all for the tips along the way.:D:D:D

dwighet

Tawny Owl wrote: »

Just got my Licence for the Remington 597 LR today took all of three weeks now I am only delighted just one thing do I zero it at 50 yards or 100 yards what is best

Thanks to all for the tips along the way.:D:D:D

for hunting I always zeroed my .22`s at 65 yds(thats subsonic ammo)

German pointer

Tawny Owl wrote: »

Just got my Licence for the Remington 597 LR today took all of three weeks now I am only delighted just one thing do I zero it at 50 yards or 100 yards what is best

Thanks to all for the tips along the way.:D:D:D

I would set it to 75 yards but as Dwighet says 65 yards it makes little or no difference with either. Good hunting with it:)

dwighet

German pointer wrote: »

I would set it to 75 yards but as Dwighet says 65 yards it makes little or no difference with either. Good hunting with it:)

GP your sig is so true.....Very good

EWQuinn

Here is a typical 50-yd 10 shot group with CCI Mini-Mag 36 gr. Based testing so far, I recommend consider trying CCI Mini-Mag 36 gr Copper HP 1260 FPS, or the CCI SV 40 gr ammo if you can get it. Bullets are of high quality and loads are very consistent. My 597 really likes the stuff. With the zero range at 50yd, the drop at 100yd on mine is 8 in for the 1260 fps 36 gr.

Tawny Owl

EWQuinn wrote: »

Here is a typical 50-yd 10 shot group with CCI Mini-Mag 36 gr. Based testing so far, I recommend consider trying CCI Mini-Mag 36 gr Copper HP 1260 FPS, or the CCI SV 40 gr ammo if you can get it. Bullets are of high quality and loads are very consistent. My 597 really likes the stuff. With the zero range at 50yd, the drop at 100yd on mine is 8 in for the 1260 fps 36 gr.

Thanks for the tips I bought CCI Sub-Sonic x 100 Lead Hollow Point 1050fps 40 gr on Saturday would these be ok the Gun has a Mod as well and printed off some targets I was cutting Turf today just got back at 7.30pm sorry I did not bring the Gun and set up the Scope.great opportunity missed this evening.

EWQuinn

Tawny, I've heard good things about the CCI Subsonic as well. Let us know how it does. I've tried several types now, mine seems to favor CCI.