30 gallon copper cylinder

red bull

My copper cylinder is leaking what is the approx cost of a new 30gal single coil copper cylinder

shane0007

Approx €125 plus vat. Cylinder fittings & immersion extra.
Precision Heating are doing a factory insulated stainless steel (vented - cannot be pressurized) cylinder with an immersion. Cylinder can take Irish copper directly so no cylinder fittings required for about €165 + vat.

TPM

vented or unvented?
insulated or not?
direct or indirect?
if indirect single coil, double coil, triple coil?
High recovery or solar coils?
grade 1, 2 or 3 copper?
actual size height and width

all or any of these can make a very big difference in price

TPM

shane0007 wrote: »

Approx €125 plus vat. Cylinder fittings & immersion extra.
Precision Heating are doing a factory insulated stainless steel (vented - cannot be pressurized) cylinder with an immersion. Cylinder can take Irish copper directly so no cylinder fittings required for about €165 + vat.

Is that cylinder (the coil) suitable for connection to a solid fuel boiler, some of the stainless steels ones are not

shane0007

Yes it is suitable for solid fuel (gravity) but it is single coil (coil rating on 30" x 18" is 12.6kW). It comes with 10 year warranty. Quick heat recovery coil. 50mm insulation. Sizes 36" x 18" and larger come with a shower tapping as standard.

red bull

vented
not insulated
indirect
single coil
for use of a stanley range
size is 18x30 i think

shane0007

Why would you install an uninsulated cylinder?
Is range solid fuel or oil and if oil, is it pressure jet or vapourizing Don burner?

TPM

shane0007 wrote: »

Yes it is suitable for solid fuel (gravity) but it is single coil (coil rating on 30" x 18" is 12.6kW). It comes with 10 year warranty. Quick heat recovery coil. 50mm insulation. Sizes 36" x 18" and larger come with a shower tapping as standard.

I must check them out was looking for one like that a while ago. Sounds very like the gledhill cylinders except they are not suitable for gravity systems.

Red bull are you on a treated water supply or your own well/community water supply?

red bull

range is solid fuel the one I have to replace is uninsulated, do you think I should get an insulated one.?

red bull

TPM wrote: »

I must check them out was looking for one like that a while ago. Sounds very like the gledhill cylinders except they are not suitable for gravity systems.

Red bull are you on a treated water supply or your own well/community water supply?

Group water scheme

shane0007

TPM wrote: »

I must check them out was looking for one like that a while ago. Sounds very like the gledhill cylinders except they are not suitable for gravity systems.

Red bull are you on a treated water supply or your own well/community water supply?

It is the Gledhill. I have not bought one as yet but they told me they were suitable for solid fuel. hmmm....

Just got their email flyer and then I rang them for prices, etc. as they sound like a nice cylinder for the money.

TPM

red bull wrote: »

range is solid fuel the one I have to replace is uninsulated, do you think I should get an insulated one.?

you should get the insulated one once it fits in.

I priced a 18x48 cylinder this week it was a grade2 (next step up from standard) because the water was from a private well and it was almost €200 more expensive than a standard one, and actually dearer than a stainless steel Gledhill cylinder.

If you can get a stainless steel cylinder with a gravity (solid fuel) coil it would be the best option long term

shane0007

red bull wrote: »

range is solid fuel the one I have to replace is uninsulated, do you think I should get an insulated one.?

Why would you not if you are not stuck for the extra diameter?

TPM

shane0007 wrote: »

It is the Gledhill. I have not bought one as yet but they told me they were suitable for solid fuel. hmmm....

Just got their email flyer and then I rang them for prices, etc. as they sound like a nice cylinder for the money.

They are not. check the notes 2nd page under the spec table "pumped sustem only"
http://www.gledhill.net/pdf/Spec%20107-06%20EnviroFoam%20Stainless.pdf

They are a nice cylinder for the money, I have fitted a few of them

shane0007

Thanks for that. I had not seen this brochure and only went on what they told me over the phone. Good to know. I wouldn't be fitting too many single coil solid fuel ones anyhow, more dual coils.

TPM

Your welcome.
I was told they were too, by a different supplier, but when I seen it I had my doubts and looked into it.

I hate when you cant trust the word of suppliers, they could get you into a lot of trouble.

red bull

Have to go shopping tommorow morning/ afternoon. Should I look for an insulated or uninsulated cyl, stainless steel or copper . I assume the pipe fittings on both are standard and will match up with the one im replacing ?

TPM

insulated if it you have the room
You wont get stainless steel off the shelf
I would look for grade 2 copper, it is more expensive but will last longer than standard one

red bull

Got grade3 copper cylinder this morning €130. Was advised to use uninsulated to give more heat in hotpress. thanks to you all for help