when does a comedian become a comedian?

paky

the reason i'm asking is because craig doyle has now become funny..apparently

Mr. Rager

I seen him host The Panel. He is the opposite of funny.

The King of Moo

Craig Doyle is not a comedian, but he is a complete joke, so I can see how it's easy to make that mistake.

dynamot

Craig Doyle and funny should not appear in the same sentence unless funny is preceded by 'not'

paky

HA HA HA HA HA HA

ygolometsipe

when does a comedian become a comedian?

philosophically speaking - I dont know.

hairyprincess

sh/te, now you remind me, I was supposed to watch that tonight

44leto

I was more interested in the opposite phenomenon, how do old comics lose their comic skill. I seen Jasper Carrot and gryff Rhyss Jones on new BBC comedy shows, both these were good in their day, but now its as if I heard the joke before, the same applies to even greats like billy Connolly.

Something gets lost and I don't know what that is.

chin_grin

Him off the upc ads? About as funny as accidentally walking in to a bollard that's perfectly bollock level.

I'd say when you get gigging and receive good reviews. Not have or host a comedy show. They're not comedians. They're hair-wobbling toff twats that talk about the size of packets of peanuts on airplanes and expect people to laugh because "oh! It's SO true! He's describing my life with a laugh track and a zany voice!".....and all his copycats (even that Scottish one who pretends to be risqué so people feel like they're going against the norm liking him...you're not...you're falling in to the trap! HA!).

...Um...where was I?

Sindri

When they feel they need to stand on a stage in front of a packed room and ask people to laugh with them and/or to laugh at them.



Very sad really.

Hande hoche!

He is a fairly mediocre host and presenter. Have never heard anyone describe him as a comedian.

al28283

at conception

Cianos

Have to tip my hat to great comedians. Making people LOL must be tough. Why do you they get in to it? I think the best comedians provide social commentary via entertainment, so it's probably a vocation for many. There has to be real substance to the material for it to hit home. The best comedians highlight serious social issues through their material, and open them up for conversation which imo is a great public service. Genius really.

Agricola

People are being a bit harsh on Craig. He just hasnt found the right vehicle. I'd suggest one that's speeding into an uncoming lorry!

Now thats comedy!

John Doe1

he's no ryan tubridy thats for sure:)

uberalles

This is genius

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JPT3feipJ8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

starch4ser

Craig Doyle is about as funny as Brendan Kilkenny is talented.

admiralofthefleet

when he is born with the name dylan moran

im invisible

People laughed when Craig Doyle said he wanted to be a comedian, well they're not laughing now!

Sindri

I declare that Anthony Jeselnik, Dylan Moran and Stewart Lee as the best comedians around today!

chin_grin

Sindri wrote: »

I declare that Anthony Jeselnik, Dylan Moran and Stewart Lee as the best comedians around today!

Hmm never heard of this guy before. And to put his name beside Dylans and Stews I must investigate post haste!

Samich

Frankie Boyle is up there I think!

Sindri

chin_grin wrote: »

Hmm never heard of this guy before. And to put his name beside Dylans and Stews I must investigate post haste!

Here's some of his jokes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFnKTs6CXwQ

Google his C.D. Shakespeare.

slum dog

michael mcintyre is genius

YFlyer

44leto wrote: »

I was more interested in the opposite phenomenon, how do old comics lose their comic skill. I seen Jasper Carrot and gryff Rhyss Jones on new BBC comedy shows, both these were good in their day, but now its as if I heard the joke before, the same applies to even greats like billy Connolly.

Something gets lost and I don't know what that is.

Happened to Harry Enfield as well.

Bipolar Joe

Haven't watched The Panel in years. It got sh!te ages ago.

Sindri wrote: »

Here's some of his jokes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFnKTs6CXwQ

Google his C.D. Shakespeare.

He's funny, but the delivery is terrible.

Seeing as we're sharing comics:

inagoodway

paky wrote: »

the reason i'm asking is because craig doyle has now become funny(..)apparently

those two fullstops in your sentence make it funnny,

i can;t read it without laughing,,

so off to bed i go lolling:D

chin_grin

Sindri wrote: »

Here's some of his jokes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFnKTs6CXwQ

Google his C.D. Shakespeare.

Yeah...I get his delivery. The 'self awareness' thing he's got going on. But he's no comparison to Stewart Lee or Dylan Moran. Tried to get in to the cd but it's just full of the stock "so my mother in law" jokes. I think I laughed once before it got very repetitive.

I'd even rate Demetri Martin over this guy (very quirky his show was hilarious "Important Things.." I think it was called).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKnzPHtf9u4

(Hmm not one of his best...I've never seen this show before. But his other stuff is good. I swear!).

uberalles

chin_grin wrote: »

Yeah...I get his delivery. The 'self awareness' thing he's got going on. But he's no comparison to Stewart Lee or Dylan Moran. Tried to get in to the cd but it's just full of the stock "so my mother in law" jokes. I think I laughed once before it got very repetitive.

I'd even rate Demetri Martin over this guy (very quirky his show was hilarious "Important Things.." I think it was called).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKnzPHtf9u4

(Hmm not one of his best...I've never seen this show before. But his other stuff is good. I swear!).

Links ?

Irish Guitarist

By American standards anyone could be a comedian. I was watching an episode of Seinfeld yesterday and I found it hard to believe how unfunny he was. The actual programme itself is funny enough at times but his stand up routine at the beginning and end is atrocious, like the majority of American stand up comedians.

Doc Ruby

Cianos wrote: »

I think the best comedians provide social commentary via entertainment, so it's probably a vocation for many. There has to be real substance to the material for it to hit home. The best comedians highlight serious social issues through their material, and open them up for conversation which imo is a great public service. Genius really.

The difference between a great comedian and the rest is a great comedian actually lives and is what they say. They don't study and research "material", they bring life into it. Billy Connolly would be a good example of this, I remember watching an interview with that tedious hack Eddie Izzard and he was saying how he couldn't research the source of Connolly's genius - that's cos he's actually funny laddie. OHO A MAN DRESSED AS A WOMAN LOL

Agricola wrote: »

People are being a bit harsh on Craig. He just hasnt found the right vehicle. I'd suggest one that's speeding into an uncoming lorry!

Now thats comedy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0PIdWdw15U

CrazyRabbit

I'm not sure. But it can't be that hard. There are 30 comedians in this thread.

keano_afc

To answer the OP, I believe a person becomes a comedian when they're not called Tommy Tiernan.

al28283

keano_afc wrote: »

To answer the OP, I believe a person becomes a comedian when they're not called Tommy Tiernan.

What has Tommy Tiernan got to do with comedians

ejmaztec

al28283 wrote: »

What has Tommy Tiernan got to do with comedians

He looks up to them with the hope that he too can become one. Unfortunately, the odds are stacked against him, but he will make it before Sweaty Evans does.

Paulie Gualtieri

I think a comedian has to have a natural ability for comedy or at least a likeability factor , Craig D has neither .... he cracks a joke ...


( pause for applause)

then watch tumbleweed roll bye,

and Im not saying he's a bad guy but that Cd live just doesnt suit him.

Temptamperu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2dOboLsh-4

You are welcome

al28283

Temptamperu wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2dOboLsh-4

You are welcome

+1

paky

Paulie Gualtieri wrote: »

I think a comedian has to have a natural ability for comedy or at least a likeability factor , Craig D has neither .... he cracks a joke ...


( pause for applause)

then watch tumbleweed roll bye,

and Im not saying he's a bad guy but that Cd live just doesnt suit him.

i think craig doyle is trying to copy the republic of telly but whoever told hime he was funny? should somebody tell him hes not or should we just continue to watch him make a fool of himself?

fasttalkerchat

More importantly, when does a comedian stop being a comedian?

Some stand up jokers should find this point.

Doc Ruby

Doc Ruby wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0PIdWdw15U

You know you've been watching too much porn when you expect "rimshot" to be something else.

ToddyDoody

When they say or do something really edgy or a lot of things a little edgy. Laughing is related (in an opposing kind of way) to fear i believe e.g. I laughed at death (but died anyway.. Like many a crap comedian.. And what do they do with the regular k?)

Sonnenblumen

dynamot wrote: »

Craig Doyle and funny should not appear in the same sentence unless funny is preceded by 'not'

Some people will try anything to stay in a job. Nothing wrong with it, but nothing much funny about it either. Craig would be better to act his age.

Maybe he's spending too much time with invincible RTE celebs:o