(UK) Driver orders passengers off bus and returns to depot after woman spills coffee

Run_to_da_hills

A bus driver ordered all his passengers off his bus after a woman spilled some coffee on board. Ten passengers were told to get off the bus and wait for another one as the driver drove it back to the depot for professional cleaning as he considered the matter "dangerous". LOL

Is this a case of health & safety gone AWAL or is it a case of humiliation against one passenger that broke the rules of bringing a cup of coffee on board?

How would Dublin Bus deal with a similar situation?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2110958/Stop-bus-Driver-orders-passengers-woman-spills-coffee--elf-n-safety.html

whiskeyman

Proably right choice to avoid claims from people who may slip.
A slip could serious injuries, so I'm not sure if a 'lol' is warranted.
Driver should have had some heavy duty paper to mop it up though.

Mountjoy Mugger

whiskeyman wrote: »

Proably right choice to avoid claims from people who may slip.
A slip could serious injuries, so I'm not sure if a 'lol' is warranted.
Driver should have had some heavy duty paper to mop it up though.

'The ridiculous thing was the amount spilled was far less water than you would get when people are getting on and off in the rain.

Maybe not a lol, but a rolleyes is certainly warranted. Bloody PC brigade. :rolleyes:

devnull

As it's in the Daily Mail, I'd be highly suspicious of the accuracy of the story.

getz

Mountjoy Mugger wrote: »

Maybe not a lol, but a rolleyes is certainly warranted. Bloody PC brigade. :rolleyes:

welcome to the world of compensation

Mountjoy Mugger

getz wrote: »

welcome to the world of compensation

Nothing stopping them slip on rainwater either.

Run_to_da_hills

devnull wrote: »

As it's in the Daily Mail, I'd be highly suspicious of the accuracy of the story.

I guess they got the story from from some local paper.

http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/9571477.Passengers_ordered_off_bus_after_coffee_spilt/

coylemj

devnull wrote: »

As it's in the Daily Mail, I'd be highly suspicious of the accuracy of the story.

+1 the Mail's speciality is righteous indignation. Anything that has a go at 'elf & safety' (as they call it) is fair game, this looks like such a story.

Probably exaggerated to the point of fiction.

foggy_lad

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

A bus driver ordered all his passengers off his bus after a woman spilled some coffee on board. Ten passengers were told to get off the bus and wait for another one as the driver drove it back to the depot for professional cleaning as he considered the matter "dangerous". LOL

Is this a case of health & safety gone AWAL or is it a case of humiliation against one passenger that broke the rules of bringing a cup of coffee on board?

How would Dublin Bus deal with a similar situation?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2110958/Stop-bus-Driver-orders-passengers-woman-spills-coffee--elf-n-safety.html

The Driver was at fault for allowing the woman board with a hot drink!

Bus Eireann(and Dublin Bus) have bye-laws prohibiting hot food and drinks from all bus services but there are usually several people on the late evening services arriving just in time for the bus carrying their coffee and some form of hot food. drivers accept these people onto their buses in full view of inspectors in Busáras, Company Bye-Laws are only as good as the staff who are expected to enforce them!

Rafloution

Jaysus remember getting on 65b at ciywest 2 years ago. Someone had been sick in the wheelchair area downstairs. The driver taped off the area with thin ribbon and carried on.. The smell was
horrific

getz

Mountjoy Mugger wrote: »

Nothing stopping them slip on rainwater either.

rainwater is a act of god,coffee is a act of starbucks

Jehuty42

Rafloution wrote: »

Jaysus remember getting on 65b at ciywest 2 years ago. Someone had been sick in the wheelchair area downstairs. The driver taped off the area with thin ribbon and carried on.. The smell was
horrific

The alternative probably would have been to just not run the bus at all instead, surely?

Run_to_da_hills

Would the driver on a Nightlink order the passengers off and do the same if someone puked on the floor.

coylemj

Got a late 46A from Dun Laoghaire to town a couple of years ago. When we boarded, the driver told us to go upstairs cause there was a broken window downstairs.

I always wondered was he anxious to get back to the garage to quit for the night so he drove the bus anyway or if it had happened in the middle of the day would he have grounded the bus and waited for a replacement? Does anyone know the official rule in the circumstances?

Victor

Jehuty42 wrote: »

The alternative probably would have been to just not run the bus at all instead, surely?

Even during the peak, there are a small number of buses available to cover such eventualities. However, positioning might be another matter.

Jehuty42

Victor wrote: »

Even during the peak, there are a small number of buses available to cover such eventualities. However, positioning might be another matter.

By the time you get a bus from Ringsend to Citywest, it will probably only be time for it to start the next scheduled service. You're still losing a run there.

meanmachine3

foggy_lad wrote: »

The Driver was at fault for allowing the woman board with a hot drink!

Bus Eireann(and Dublin Bus) have bye-laws prohibiting hot food and drinks from all bus services but there are usually several people on the late evening services arriving just in time for the bus carrying their coffee and some form of hot food. drivers accept these people onto their buses in full view of inspectors in Busáras, Company Bye-Laws are only as good as the staff who are expected to enforce them!

foggy when it comes to enforcing by-laws we as bus drivers are damned if we do and damned if we dont. unfortunately it's all grand and dandy if we're backed up by our superiors in making these sort of calls but in most cases we're not. been there already and got my ass kicked by my boss for enforcing one of our by-laws. as for the bus eireann drivers surely to god the inspectors can make this sort of call as it's been done right under their noses therefore taking the onus off the driver and making the situation less volatile. in most cases these guys have no security protection. to give an example of a B.E. driver doing this. sorry bud your not getting on with that hot cup of coffee, next thing bud throws it over the driver. as a driver of dublin bus i can tell you this thing used to be common enough.now it's not worth the hastle. theres plenty of inspectors out there getting big bucks. let them take the hot coffee.

Cookie_Monster

What a load of crock :rolleyes:

Considering the gallons of water that can be swishing around upstairs at times a little bit off coffee on a high grip floor is not going to do any damage to anyone.

I remember the odd journey to college where I'd have to lift my feet every time the bus braked to avoid the surge of water

101sean

My sister would be horrified to learn she couldn't take her coffee on the bus, does it every morning on way to work. I wouldn't want to the one to tell her though, she doesn't do mornings and hates her job!

I'd certainly take anything the Mail says with a pinch of salt although there are some who hide behind H&S rather than risk a bit of common sense.

Hotblack Desiato

Hmmm.. too 'dangerous' to have people stepping around a coffee spill.. so the driver orders everyone off the bus - presumably through the emergency windows to avoid the coffee??

donspeekinglesh

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

I remember the odd journey to college where I'd have to lift my feet every time the bus braked to avoid the surge of water

Odd journey? I found it to be a regular occurrence when it rained. I'd avoid sitting at a window seat if the weather was bad.

LXFlyer

That was a problem with the Leyland/Volvo Olympian fleet, which was peculiar to Dublin for some reason.

Thankfully the newer buses do not suffer that problem.

Terrontress

Quite often when taking an Expressway service and I am in a rush, I'll grab a sandwich and a bottle of water or coke, knowing that I'll have the time to eat it aboard the bus.

Byelaws aside, it's probably not a pleasant thing to do, I will never leave rubbish and I'd pick up the odd bit of lettuce that might drop. Still, I suppose smells and crumbs aren't pleasant.

I hadn't really thought about it before I started to write this.

Although if trains are selling hot food, coffees, beers then I see no reason not to bring your own aboard.

Cookie_Monster

lxflyer wrote: »

That was a problem with the Leyland/Volvo Olympian fleet, which was peculiar to Dublin for some reason.

Thankfully the newer buses do not suffer that problem.

Nope I'm talking specifically AVs and the like, every wet morning on the 7b or 145

LXFlyer

I haven't experienced that on an AV and I use them every day of the week.

The RH, RA and RV certainly.

Maybe you were just unlucky.

dublinman1990

meanmachine3 wrote: »

foggy when it comes to enforcing by-laws we as bus drivers are damned if we do and damned if we dont. unfortunately it's all grand and dandy if we're backed up by our superiors in making these sort of calls but in most cases we're not. been there already and got my ass kicked by my boss for enforcing one of our by-laws. as for the bus eireann drivers surely to god the inspectors can make this sort of call as it's been done right under their noses therefore taking the onus off the driver and making the situation less volatile. in most cases these guys have no security protection. to give an example of a B.E. driver doing this. sorry bud your not getting on with that hot cup of coffee, next thing bud throws it over the driver. as a driver of dublin bus i can tell you this thing used to be common enough.now it's not worth the hastle. theres plenty of inspectors out there getting big bucks. let them take the hot coffee.

This may be off topic but, what bye-laws were you enforcing at the time when driving your bus?

Louche Lad

devnull wrote: »

As it's in the Daily Mail, I'd be highly suspicious of the accuracy of the story.

Ditto. And even if it is true, it could be a case where the driver is a Daily Mail reader who's been suckered into believing he has to overreact.