EI to start London southend-dub

drdeadlift

Just read it over at a.net.Seem like they are trying to take advantage of the pre-clearence at dub.

"Irish carrier Aer Lingus will start summer services from Southend through its regional operator Aer Arann involving three daily flights to Dublin, with connections onwards to the USA through its mainline long haul service.
Passengers can take advantage of pre-clearance US Customs and Immigration facilities at Dublin which allows them to arrive at their destinations, including New York, Boston, Chicago and Orlando, as domestic passengers, saving valuable time."

roundymac

Who will be operating it EI or EI Regional? If it's EI AFAIK SEN is restricted to A319s. How long would a ATR take to fly from there, it would be well over an hour, or am I way off in that assumption?

Suits

drdeadlift wrote: »

Just read it over at a.net.Seem like they are trying to take advantage of the pre-clearence at dub.

"Irish carrier Aer Lingus will start summer services from Southend through its regional operator Aer Arann involving three daily flights to Dublin, with connections onwards to the USA through its mainline long haul service.
Passengers can take advantage of pre-clearance US Customs and Immigration facilities at Dublin which allows them to arrive at their destinations, including New York, Boston, Chicago and Orlando, as domestic passengers, saving valuable time."

Is this not just the pre-existing Aer Arran route coming under the franchise?

roundymac

Just looked at the Southend website, looks like the Aer Arann flights just being re-marketed under the EI banner. 1hr 20mins flight time. Easyjet have a large presence at the airport.

drdeadlift

Never thought of the relevance of RE with this route.But either way it will be ei profiting from the route in time..maybe..

L1011

Suits wrote: »

Is this not just the pre-existing Aer Arran route coming under the franchise?

I wasn't aware that RE operated DUB-SEN. Its WAT-SEN they do.

Johnny901

Dublin/Southend is a new route for Aer Arann under the Aer Lingus Regional banner.

westdub

Notice any connection??

Stobart agrees to invest in Aer ArannUK LISTED company Stobart yesterday said that it has agreed to make an investment in Aer Arann, a move that should allow the Irish airline to exit examinership.
This will give the company a “small stake” in Aer Arann in the form of a convertible preference share.

London Southend Airport (LSA), part of the Stobart Group, has today agreed a 10 year contract with easyJet, for flights to a number of European destinations. easyJet will commence operations in April 2012, in advance of the London Olympics, initially basing three aircraft at the airport and expecting to deliver around 800,000 passengers per annum. This will increase the annualised throughput at the airport to nearly 1 million passengers.

Well??

bkehoe

westdub wrote: »

Notice any connection??






Well??

I didn't believe it was any secret that Stobart bailed out Aer Arann and as a result Aer Arann moved the majority of their flights from Luton to Southend in order to get Southend on the map.

Growler!!!

No secret either that the new RE interim CEO has come from the Stobart Group.

SEN was only ever served from WAT by RE. Supposed to be a 42 based in SEN for the DUB flights. With no spare aircraft, looks like IOM will lose its base. Interesting times ahead.







Heard on another forum that new EI cadets will be flying RE aircraft. Also 330 capts will be retiring onto the ATR's as life is apparently easier.

Johnny901

SEN was also served from Galway.

Su Campu

drdeadlift wrote: »

Just read it over at a.net.Seem like they are trying to take advantage of the pre-clearence at dub.

Pre-clearance for the States? There are no US flights from Southend so couldn't be that.

And I think it's a bit of a stretch for them to call themselves London Southend when it's 42 miles to London!

highlydebased

Su Campu wrote: »

Pre-clearance for the States? There are no US flights from Southend so couldn't be that.

And I think it's a bit of a stretch for them to call themselves London Southend when it's 42 miles to London!

Probably means they can feed SEN flights into USA flights at Dublin.

Growler!!!

Johnny901 wrote: »

SEN was also served from Galway.

Whoops, should have said currently:D

Su Campu wrote: »

And I think it's a bit of a stretch for them to call themselves London Southend when it's 42 miles to London!

Stanstead is 40 odd miles from central London too. Now London Oxford (Kidlington) is 40 miles away also, without a rail link - now that's a bit cheeky:pac:

IngazZagni

Growler!!! wrote: »

Whoops, should have said currently:D




Stanstead is 40 odd miles from central London too. Now London Oxford (Kidlington) is 40 miles away also, without a rail link - now that's a bit cheeky:pac:

Stansted is 30 miles from central London and Gatwick is 28 miles. It's more comparable with Luton at 35 miles but is another 5 miles further than this so it is pushing it a bit.

KCAccidental

Southend airport's railway station links directly to the olympic site at stratford station. Could actually be the one sane way to get to london during the olympics. The tube and overground will be a disaster area!

Davidth88

Guys , to call Southend London , is like calling an airport in Dundalk Dublin. It's miles away , its quite a stretch from Rochford Stn which is the nearest station unless they have opened a new one , so does not have the direct train link that Stanstead or Gatwick enjoys

Anyway , Eddie Stobart , them of the green lorries with the girls names on them .... they own Southend , and I think are a major investor in Aer Arran .

They used to advertise Galway - Southend IIRC on the back of the lorries until recently when they stopped for obvious reasons.

On another note , I used to fly to Southend when I was doing my PPL ( Navigation trips etc ).

Strangely the ATC there had exactly the same name as me . I also recall it was very expensive to land at .

BuffyBot

Guys , to call Southend London , is like calling an airport in Dundalk Dublin. It's miles away , its quite a stretch from Rochford Stn which is the nearest station unless they have opened a new one , so does not have the direct train link that Stanstead or Gatwick enjoys

Yes, they have opened a new one.

Davidth88

interesting , didn't know that ( 10 years since I lived in England )

Davidth88

Just seen the Southend website now .... interesting Stobart seem to operate the train service as well

Great piece of vertical marketing .


Fly on a Stobart aircraft ( well partly owned airline ) to a Stobart airport , then get on a Stobart train . I suppose while you are there you can shop in Tescos which is stocked by Stobart lorries !

Tenger

Davidth88 wrote: »

Guys , to call Southend London , is like calling an airport in Dundalk Dublin. It's miles away , its quite a stretch from Rochford Stn which is the nearest station unless they have opened a new one , so does not have the direct train link that Stanstead or Gatwick enjoys.

KCAccidental wrote: »

Southend airport's railway station links directly to the olympic site at Stratford station. Could actually be the one sane way to get to london during the olympics. The tube and overground will be a disaster area!

Southend has been heavily developed over the last couple of years.
New terminal, reseurfaced runway, new ATC tower, new rail station, new LCC customer (EasyJet)
All in time for the Olympics. SEN is looking like a decent attempt to tempt pax from STN.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/04/london-southend-airport

LXFlyer

Davidth88 wrote: »

Just seen the Southend website now .... interesting Stobart seem to operate the train service as well

Great piece of vertical marketing .


Fly on a Stobart aircraft ( well partly owned airline ) to a Stobart airport , then get on a Stobart train . I suppose while you are there you can shop in Tescos which is stocked by Stobart lorries !

Incorrect.

Greater Anglia is the railway company that serves the railway station. They are owned by a subsidiary of Nederlandse Spoorwegen (the Dutch railway company).

Davidth88

lxflyer wrote: »

Incorrect.

Greater Anglia is the railway company that serves the railway station. They are owned by a subsidiary of Nederlandse Spoorwegen (the Dutch railway company).

Blimey I seem to be getting a lot wrong today !

It seems they may operate the station anyway ( or is that just the car park ... ? )

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/SIA/details.html

Joe 90

Su Campu wrote: »

Pre-clearance for the States? There are no US flights from Southend so couldn't be that.

And I think it's a bit of a stretch for them to call themselves London Southend when it's 42 miles to London!

In fact it is probably just as handy for Central London as Heathrow and probably better than Stansted. The 'Stansted Express' is anything but an express.

Marcusm

It's very handy for south Essex and north Kent which easily have the population to support a minor airport.

KCAccidental

compared to the old London Manston airport Southend is positively suburban!

Davidth88

arhhh now Manston was described as London at one time ?


That's totally mad .