Is this a UPC Cork line?

Solair

We're just moving into a new place, which dates from the 1960s or so.
It's in an area of Cork that is cabled, but the previous occupant is unsure about what services are there.

We've tried our UPC box in the coax sockets in the house, to no avail. There was no signal picked up at all.

So, I plugged a TV in to see what kind of signal was there and got a very weird set of channels!

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RTE 1 and 2 are on Ch04 and Ch07 which are VHF channels. I know RTE isn't on VHF in Cork City so it cannot be bleed through from anything on air.
It picks them up on UHF but they're utterly unwatchable. There's almost no signal at all.

UPC's website doesn't have the property in the database. It comes up saying there's no services AT ALL available. Even non-cable areas in Cork come up with Digital TV only (MMDS) but this address just pulls a blank.

It's always very hard to figure out what old Cork Multichannel wiring was because they didn't seem to use any specific sockets in the early days.

I'm just wondering if it's an old line, will the be able to pull a new one through? Or, what usually happens?

We'd obviously like to go with our HD+Broadband pack, if possible.

(There is no basic analogue cable service in Cork btw, only Digital cable, broadband + RTE analogue)

marno21

Solair wrote: »

We're just moving into a new place, which dates from the 1960s or so.
It's in an area of Cork that is cabled, but the previous occupant is unsure about what services are there.

We've tried our UPC box in the coax sockets in the house, to no avail. There was no signal picked up at all.

So, I plugged a TV in to see what kind of signal was there and got a very weird set of channels!

See image:

RTE 1 and 2 are on Ch04 and Ch07 which are VHF channels. I know RTE isn't on VHF in Cork City so it cannot be bleed through from anything on air.
It picks them up on UHF but they're utterly unwatchable. There's almost no signal at all.

UPC's website doesn't have the property in the database. It comes up saying there's no services AT ALL available. Even non-cable areas in Cork come up with Digital TV only (MMDS) but this address just pulls a blank.

It's always very hard to figure out what old Cork Multichannel wiring was because they didn't seem to use any specific sockets in the early days.

I'm just wondering if it's an old line, will the be able to pull a new one through? Or, what usually happens?

We'd obviously like to go with our HD+Broadband pack, if possible.

(There is no basic analogue cable service in Cork btw, only Digital cable, broadband + RTE analogue)

Depending on TV, VHF channels come up on numbers or letters, I've installed TVs here locally that display RTE One and Two from Mullaghanish on C04 and C07 (D and G).


RTE One from Collins Barracks is on channel 39, RTE Two is on channel 52 (changed from 49 due to DTT from Spur Hill) and TG4 is on Channel 46.

Looks like the cable is picking up off air signals from Mullaghanish and Collins Barracks.

Btw, do UPC still transmit the PSB services on VHF in analog in Cork on cable?

Solair

The reception's diabolical on all channels, so it's hard to know.

I thought RTE was entirely off VHF by now?

Seems UPC Cork analogue services (if they still exist) were :

RTE 1 - Channel C04 (62.25Mhz)
RTE 2 - Channel C09 (203.25mhz)
TV3 - Channel C07 (189.25Mhz)
TG4 - Channel C06 (182.25Mhz)

So, it's probably only an old antenna feed. Damn!

lucernarian

Solair wrote: »

The reception's diabolical on all channels, so it's hard to know.

I thought RTE was entirely off VHF by now?

Seems UPC Cork analogue services (if they still exist) were :

RTE 1 - Channel C04 (62.25Mhz)
RTE 2 - Channel C09 (203.25mhz)
TV3 - Channel C07 (189.25Mhz)
TG4 - Channel C06 (182.25Mhz)

So, it's probably only an old antenna feed. Damn!

RTE still uses VHF for TV broadcast. http://www.rtenl.ie/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/television-frequencies.pdf
Also for any TV I've used, C04 marks the start of the Band 3 channels. 62MHz would be Band 1, not used in over a decade for broadcast TV in Ireland.

Solair

To_be_confirmed wrote: »

RTE still uses VHF for TV broadcast. http://www.rtenl.ie/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/television-frequencies.pdf

I just remember some fuss over them shutting down VHF, was it only the relays ?

The Cush

Solair wrote: »

I just remember some fuss over them shutting down VHF, was it only the relays ?

VHF was to be shut down at all transmitters but in the early 2000's following an EBU recommendation in the 90's it was decided to retain the Band III frequencies at the five main high-power VHF transmitters for RTÉ 1 & 2 until ASO so that their allocated UHF frequencies could be used to kick-start DTT. I remember seeing it on the old Aertel Technical Information page 530 at the time.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=59271544#post59271544

Solair

I knew I'd heard something about it.

It's been a long time since I've used a TV connected to an antenna though, so I suppose I've just missed the change over!