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[Article] Bus drivers who don't crash get €300,000

  • 05-03-2012 1:47am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0305/1224312795450.html
    “Our drivers can each travel more than a million kilometres over a year and it is a remarkable achievement to be accident free given the distances they drive in often difficult conditions.”

    1,000,000km/year =
    2739km/day =
    114km/hour

    Speed limit for a coach on a motorway is 100km/h, less on other roads.

    I don't think they are taking distance travelled orbiting around the sun. :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    Victor wrote: »
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0305/1224312795450.html



    1,000,000km/year =
    2739km/day =
    114km/hour

    Speed limit for a coach on a motorway is 100km/h, less on other roads.

    I don't think they are taking distance travelled orbiting around the sun. :pac:
    1million km divided by about 220 days worked times 6-8 hours per day driving and we are way past any legal or possible speeds!

    1000000Km/year =
    4545Km/day =
    568.13km/hour:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Crazy figure the 1m but aside from this it does make sense. Every business should award it's employees who perform well, over and above the norm be it by bonus or whatever.

    For driving a bus it's a pretty good indicator the driver is performing well (combined with punctuality would be better)
    In addition to vouchers, drivers get “presentational awards” when they reach certain accident-free milestones. After five years they receive a pin, at 10 years they get a vase, at 15 years it is a plate, at 20 years they are given another vase, after 25 years they receive a watch, at 30 years they get a clock, and drivers who make it to 35 years are rewarded with a lamp.

    Vase, Lamp? Seems a bit outdated :D


    Also it's a terrible title, worded badly giving the assumption each driver could get that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭dowlingm


    Crazy figure the 1m but aside from this it does make sense. Every business should award it's employees who perform well, over and above the norm be it by bonus or whatever.

    For driving a bus it's a pretty good indicator the driver is performing well (combined with punctuality would be better)

    Vase, Lamp? Seems a bit outdated :D

    Also it's a terrible title, worded badly giving the assumption each driver could get that.
    Agreed. I think BE should have quantified how much accidents cost the company and how therefore such awards could be paid for if only X accidents were prevented.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,606 ✭✭✭schemingbohemia


    Very shoddy sub-editing job on that article.

    BÉ pay out €300,000 in total to all accident-free drivers per year. The
    drivers get vouchers worth €250 and entered into a draw where they might win €1,500.

    Very Indo like reporting.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    No problem with the scheme - rewarding safe driving is very much a thing that should be happening and even as one of the biggest critics of CIE at times they've done something good here.

    Agree the article gives me the impression they get 300k each though!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Irish Rail and Luas drivers must be fuming that they don't get something similar. :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    why should they be rewarded at all for not crashing though?
    is that not what they're paid to do anyway, to drive safely?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Yes but it's an incentive to do so - even if it prevents one or two crashes it's worth the money. Studies have suggested in many fields, if someone is given an incentive to do something, they are more likely to do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    I see your point, but it's one thing doing it with a private company, doing with a loss-making semi-state who is being funded by taxpayers is a completely different kettle of fish


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 275 ✭✭Bazzer2


    I think compared to the state in which the country finds itself at the moment, the amount being referred to is buttons. After all, we are talking about the transportation of the most valuable cargo. A small incentive is well worth it in the long run.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,989 ✭✭✭Trampas


    that explains why one of the drivers on my route is always late.

    he wants a lamp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    I see your point, but it's one thing doing it with a private company, doing with a loss-making semi-state who is being funded by taxpayers is a completely different kettle of fish
    If an employee thinks that someone is taking a positive interest in their work, they are likely to be happier and more productive.

    A happy system is a safe system.

    A single, injury-only accident (may have more than one casualty) could easily cost €300,000 or more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    devnull wrote: »
    Yes but it's an incentive to do so - even if it prevents one or two crashes it's worth the money. Studies have suggested in many fields, if someone is given an incentive to do something, they are more likely to do it.

    Why should you get an incentive not to crash? they get paid a weekly wage for doing a job that requires them to drive safely in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Hilly Bill wrote: »
    Why should you get an incentive not to crash? they get paid a weekly wage for doing a job that requires them to drive safely in the first place.

    if there's no incentive and it's not your property and there's no consiquence for light damage etc then why care? Small knocks and body damage will still add up to a considerable amount per year, never mind major accidents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    if there's no incentive and it's not your property and there's no consiquence for light damage etc then why care? Small knocks and body damage will still add up to a considerable amount per year, never mind major accidents.

    Small knocks etc are unavoidable if the bus is on the road up to 6 days a week, some might not be the drivers fault. Just because the bus is not the property of the driver doesnt mean he/she shouldnt be driving with less care and attention. If a bonus payment makes them drive better it only means they werent driving to the best of their ability in the first place which they get paid a wage to do so .


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