Windows 8 - Problem

sam27

My laptop originally came with Windows Vista Home Premium and I installed Windows 7 via upgrade installation disc.

This left two operating systems on my laptop - 7 & Vista.

The other night I decided to try and install Window 8 Beta and see what it was like. Unfortunately, I installed it on my Windows 7 drive and over wrote this installation.

Subsequent to finding out my mistake and realising I could not revert back to Windows 7, I decided to upgrade again my Vista Drive to Windows 7. Everything went fine except my display adapter (Mobile Intel (R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family) is not working properly and I have tried everything to fix it and improve screen graphics.

Can anyone help me with this please? (Code 12 - not enough free resources )

Furthermore, with this Windows 8 Beta version on my laptop - Any advice on what to do? Back up all setting? And when Windows 8 is offically released to the public, what will I have to do?

I would appreciate any help.

Odaise Gaelach

sam27 wrote: »

Subsequent to finding out my mistake and realising I could not revert back to Windows 7, I decided to upgrade again my Vista Drive to Windows 7. Everything went fine except my display adapter (Mobile Intel (R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family) is not working properly and I have tried everything to fix it and improve screen graphics.

Can anyone help me with this please? (Code 12 - not enough free resources )

Furthermore, with this Windows 8 Beta version on my laptop - Any advice on what to do? Back up all setting? And when Windows 8 is offically released to the public, what will I have to do?

Okay, I'm a little bit confused here. What operating system(s) do you have installed on your laptop at the moment? And which one is giving you the driver error message? Finally, what make and model is your laptop?

sam27

Odaise Gaelach wrote: »

Okay, I'm a little bit confused here. What operating system(s) do you have installed on your laptop at the moment? And which one is giving you the driver error message? Finally, what make and model is your laptop?

Yesterday it was Windows 7 & Windows Vista (Two different partitions C&D)

After - I downloaded Windows 8 Beta on the Windows 7 Partition. Leaving Visata on Partition D). I then got my Installation CD and went onto Vista and upgraded to Windows 7 on this partition. Its on this partition that the display adaptor is giving trouble.

I will post a screen shot of it in a few mins.

Toshiba L300-1DN Satellite.

Dublin_Gunner

sam27 wrote: »

Yesterday it was Windows 7 & Windows Vista (Two different partitions C&D)

After - I downloaded Windows 8 Beta on the Windows 7 Partition. Leaving Visata on Partition D). I then got my Installation CD and went onto Vista and upgraded to Windows 7 on this partition. Its on this partition that the display adaptor is giving trouble.

I will post a screen shot of it in a few mins.

Toshiba L300-1DN Satellite.

1. Why on earth did you install Win 7 on a separate partition, and not merely upgrade Vista

2. You have now overwritten the Win 7 install with Win 8, but the Vista install (which you have now upgraded to Win 7) is giving you a display driver error?


Ok, what size are both partitions? Sounds to me like you have filled up to much HDD space, and you're either running out of virtual memory, or literally running out of HDD space.

If I was you, I'd wipe both partitions, and install 1 instance of Windows 7. Buy another small HDD to play around with Win 8 on if you really want to.

Ensure you have downloaded the correct drivers for the laptop. You should be able to get these from the manufacturer's site.

sam27

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

1. Why on earth did you install Win 7 on a separate partition, and not merely upgrade Vista

2. You have now overwritten the Win 7 install with Win 8, but the Vista install (which you have now upgraded to Win 7) is giving you a display driver error?


Ok, what size are both partitions? Sounds to me like you have filled up to much HDD space, and you're either running out of virtual memory, or literally running out of HDD space.

If I was you, I'd wipe both partitions, and install 1 instance of Windows 7. Buy another small HDD to play around with Win 8 on if you really want to.

Ensure you have downloaded the correct drivers for the laptop. You should be able to get these from the manufacturer's site.

1. I know Dublin. My fault. I was not thinking.

2. On the Windows 7 Partition there is 14 GB of memory left. And on the Windows 8 one there is over 100 GB left.

I have the correct drivers allright. When i go to Windows 8 it works fine with the Intel same adaptor in it.

Dublin_Gunner

sam27 wrote: »

1. I know Dublin. My fault. I was not thinking.:D

2. On the Windows 7 Partition there is 14 GB of memory left. And on the Windows 8 one there is over 100 GB left.

I have the correct drivers allright. When i go to Windows 8 it works fine with the Intel same adaptor in it.

Definitely GB?

What is the total size of the 7 partition?

You might be best just to wipe that partition and start with a fresh Win 7 install.

sam27

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Definitely GB?

What is the total size of the 7 partition?

You might be best just to wipe that partition and start with a fresh Win 7 install.

Free space for w7 partition is 13.62 GB

Dont want to do latter. If i could get display adaptor fixed on this ill be fine.

sam27

and 115 GB on the Windows 8 Partition.

Yes it is GB

Dublin_Gunner

sam27 wrote: »

Free space for w7 partition is 13.62 GB

Dont want to do latter. If i could get display adaptor fixed on this ill be fine.

What size is the partition in total though?

If you don't mind me asking - why do you not want to do a full re-install on that partition? If you have data that you need, its easy enough to back it up. Plus a format & re-install from scratch is an order of magnitude quicker than a Win 7 upgrade, plus you 'll get rid of any crap that may be causing the issues.

Have you tried uninstalling the display adapter? (from device manager).

Then re-boot and let Windows install its own driver automatically. Then you can try re-install the correct video driver again.

Is it an Intel or AMD based laptop? And I assume it doesn't use a discrete mGPU?

sam27

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

What size is the partition in total though?

If you don't mind me asking - why do you not want to do a full re-install on that partition? If you have data that you need, its easy enough to back it up. Plus a format & re-install from scratch is an order of magnitude quicker than a Win 7 upgrade, plus you 'll get rid of any crap that may be causing the issues.

Have you tried uninstalling the display adapter? (from device manager).

Then re-boot and let Windows install its own driver automatically. Then you can try re-install the correct video driver again.

Is it an Intel or AMD based laptop? And I assume it doesn't use a discrete mGPU?

Total size of Windows 7 Partirion is 39.2 GB.

Might try that so. Will i be able to do that with ny installation dic for Windows 7. Instead od doing upgrade, choose custom install?

Yes i have done all that you said there. Windows intalls a GPA Driver (think thats what its called). Ill check if you like.

Intel.

Dublin_Gunner

sam27 wrote: »

Total size of Windows 7 Partirion is 39.2 GB.

Might try that so. Will i be able to do that with ny installation dic for Windows 7. Instead od doing upgrade, choose custom install?

Yes i have done all that you said there. Windows intalls a GPA Driver (think thats what its called). Ill check if you like.

Intel.

That is tiny, in fact, too small for a Win 7 installation. My Win 7 folder is nearly double that.

So your drive in total is about 160GB?

Here would be my suggestion.

1. Delete both partitions using the Windows 7 install disk.

2. Create a 100GB partition, and install Windows 7 fresh on to that.

3. Boot from the Win 8 disk, and create a new partition with the remaining space to play around with Win 8 on.

And yes, you can do a full install using your Win 7 disk. Is it an Upgrade version, or a full version?

To do a clean install with the upgrade media, follow one of the many guides on the net, such as this.

Its quite simple, and actually just involves NOT putting the product key in during the install, but waiting until you have completed the installation.

If you have the full version of Win 7, this doesn't matter.

sam27

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

That is tiny, in fact, too small for a Win 7 installation. My Win 7 folder is nearly double that.

So your drive in total is about 160GB?

Here would be my suggestion.

1. Delete both partitions using the Windows 7 install disk.

2. Create a 100GB partition, and install Windows 7 fresh on to that.

3. Boot from the Win 8 disk, and create a new partition with the remaining space to play around with Win 8 on.

And yes, you can do a full install using your Win 7 disk. Is it an Upgrade version, or a full version?

To do a clean install with the upgrade media, follow one of the many guides on the net, such as this.

Its quite simple, and actually just involves NOT putting the product key in during the install, but waiting until you have completed the installation.

If you have the full version of Win 7, this doesn't matter.

Thanks for your help and advice. Much appreciated.

Total 240 GB. Its upgrade version. Thanks again.

Dublin_Gunner

sam27 wrote: »

Thanks for your help and advice. Much appreciated.

Total 240 GB. Its upgrade version. Thanks again.

No problem.

If its 240, why not give say 80GB for the Win 8 install to play around with, and keep 160GB for your actual working Win 7 install?

Trust me, wiping the disk, and starting again from scratch installing it properly will save you a lot of headaches.

_Kaiser_

Better yet.. install Windows 7 fresh and use one of the free VM tools (I think VMWare Workstation is even available as a 30-day trial) and install your Windows 8 setup as a completely seperate Virtual Machine.

That way if it gets corrupted, dies or you just get sick of it (as I think you will.. rapidly! ), you just delete the VM and your actual Windows 7 host is completely unaffected.

The downside is that VM's are no good for gaming/3D but if it's just to get a feel for the new version then you should be fine

Dublin_Gunner

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

Better yet.. install Windows 7 fresh and use one of the free VM tools (I think VMWare Workstation is even available as a 30-day trial) and install your Windows 8 setup as a completely seperate Virtual Machine.

That way if it gets corrupted, dies or you just get sick of it (as I think you will.. rapidly! ), you just delete the VM and your actual Windows 7 host is completely unaffected.

The downside is that VM's are no good for gaming/3D but if it's just to get a feel for the new version then you should be fine

Not a bad idea either. However installing it separately gives a better feel for the performance of it, especially on a laptop with slightly restricted performance in the first place.

Plus, when / if he does get sick of it, that partition can simply be used for data / programs or whatever

johneire31

Let me see if I have this, you upgraded Vista with a upgrade to Win 7? If that is the case you can't do a clean install of Win 7, well you can but you can't activate it and it will shut down in 30 days time or so. You will have to install Vista, then upgrade to Win 7 as that is the licence type you have, not a Full Licence for a clean install.

'Code 12, not enough resources' is a reference to your graphics not your hard drive size, the resource is in reference to an area in memory that graphic chips access, the processor also reserves areas for graphic processing. the drivers that are with Win 8 are tailored to Win 8 and your hardware, the drivers that come with Win 7 are also tailored to you hardware and Win 7, they may be very similar and probably would work grand in isolation from each other but they seem to be causing a hardware conflict. The last thing that seems to be done on any new OS is the ability to uninstall things correctly. Things get left behind in previews and beta's, also the purpose of these early releases is to find out problems like this, Windows get info back from developers and testers who can test this system on more configurations than Microsoft can even dream off.

You could possible uninstall all drivers for graphics on your system, and just restart and one should install automatically, but conflicts are difficult to resolve, you may have limited success if you have any at all.

Formatting is the clean way of doing it, you can be certain all excess is taken off and it is probably the quickest way to do it and be certain that it is done right.

j

Kensington

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

Better yet.. install Windows 7 fresh and use one of the free VM tools (I think VMWare Workstation is even available as a 30-day trial) and install your Windows 8 setup as a completely seperate Virtual Machine.

That way if it gets corrupted, dies or you just get sick of it (as I think you will.. rapidly! ), you just delete the VM and your actual Windows 7 host is completely unaffected.

The downside is that VM's are no good for gaming/3D but if it's just to get a feel for the new version then you should be fine

If you are considering the VM route then Windows 8 doesn't seem to want to play nice with VMware

unkel

sam27 wrote: »

The other night I decided to try and install Window 8 Beta and see what it was like. Unfortunately, I installed it on my Windows 7 drive and over wrote this installation.

Subsequent to finding out my mistake and realising I could not revert back to Windows 7

Why not just leave W8 on your laptop and use it? It's quick and seems stable and if you don't like Metro, you only see it once at startup if you don't want to use it

Alun

Kensington wrote: »

If you are considering the VM route then Windows 8 doesn't seem to want to play nice with VMware

Got it working here no problem at all.

Kensington

Alun wrote: »

Got it working here no problem at all.

Really? What are you running it on if you don't mind me asking?

I was trying it first in vSphere 4 and then in VMware Server. Both threw HAL_INITIALISATION_FAILED errors when I tried to boot from the DVD to kick off the install. A quick google threw up a lot of people running into the exact same issues but no solutions...

(I wasn't bothered looking into it too much, just threw it on an old workstation and had a play around with it)

sam27

Well I cresated new partition and installed Windows 7 Clean Install. Worked perfectly and had Windows 8 Beta on another partition.

However, when starting up laptop today, in the Windows Boot Manager I got black screeen with the follwing notice. I cant now log into W8 Beta.

file \windows\system32\winload.exe

status: 0xc0000428

info: windows cannot verify the digital signaturefor this file.


I have tried everything but to no avail. The problem is my copy of Microsoft Office 2007 has disappeared from this installation.

Anyone any advice ???