Bike Lock

miller82

I got a new bike, after the last one getting nicked, and got a decent Kryptonite lock and cable (€70), but i managed to lose it last night (dont ask :mad: ).

I still have the cable and have a bog standard enough ABUS U lock ( circa €35-40) .

Would most of you be comfortable using that sort of lock with the cable, on your bike or is the kryptonite lock a serious step up ? if so i will buy just the u lock bit again

tunney

For a decent bike around town

Almax Immobiliser series III 0.7mm lock with a squire padlock

miller82

really dont fancy carrying a chain around with me.
I lock the bike in an under ground car-park at home and in work 90% of the time. sometimes i might cycle to dundrum, town etc , but not often

Lumen

Pricing of locks varies so much, I'm not sure what sort of response you expect given that you haven't identified the lock.

Look for some online reviews and decide on that basis.

Abus is a premium brand, but I remember reading some bad reviews about some of their products (can't be more specific, sorry).

Also depends how much your bike is worth, and how much of a thief magnet it is.

If your question is "would I be happy leaving my expensive bike locked up with something I had no confidence in?", the answer is "no".

That said, even the best u-locks are useless against an angle grinder, so it really depends on where and when you're leaving it.

miller82

Lumen wrote: »

Pricing of locks varies so much, I'm not sure what sort of response you expect given that you haven't identified the lock.

Look for some online reviews and decide on that basis.

Abus is a premium brand, but I remember reading some bad reviews about some of their products (can't be more specific, sorry).

Also depends how much your bike is worth, and how much of a thief magnet it is.

If your question is "would I be happy leaving my expensive bike locked up with something I had no confidence in?", the answer is "no".

That said, even the best u-locks are useless against an angle grinder, so it really depends on where and when you're leaving it.

Cheers for that.

The bike is worth about 1200.
I'm not sure what type of ABUS lock it is, hence using the price as a guide.
I've been told the Kryptonite one's are brilliant, but i didnt know if that was just people trying to sell them.

I'll have a look on line. thanks again

Lumen

The main criteria for a u-lock (aside from shackle thickness and the general design and stiffness of the thing against leverage attacks) is the length of the shackle.

Shorter is more secure because there is less space to get a jack in to. Longer is more convenient because you can lock it to a wider variety of poles.

If you don't mind looking around for the right locking point, a Kryptonite Mini is a good balance between portability and security. The heavier Kryptonites are not frame mountable and weigh a fair bit more.

miller82

Lumen wrote: »

The main criteria for a u-lock (aside from shackle thickness and the general design and stiffness of the thing against leverage attacks) is the length of the shackle.

Shorter is more secure because there is less space to get a jack in to. Longer is more convenient because you can lock it to a wider variety of poles.

If you don't mind looking around for the right locking point, a Kryptonite Mini is a good balance between portability and security. The heavier Kryptonites are not frame mountable and weigh a fair bit more.

but then with the mini you have the problem of not being able to lock it to as many things, right ?

Mycroft H

My lock got stolen last week, I just bought another Krypto mini. It does the job. I see aldi have motorcycle gear net week, including a chain lock. I might get it as an addition to the U lock.

miller82

has anyone see the Kryptonite New York 3000 for sale anywhere ?

tunney

BX 19 wrote: »

My lock got stolen last week, I just bought another Krypto mini. It does the job. I see aldi have motorcycle gear net week, including a chain lock. I might get it as an addition to the U lock.

A cheap motorbike lock is no defence really.

cojomo2

I think the fahgettaboudit is one of the best for the money, good price on amazon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kryptonite-York-Fahgettaboudit-Mini-Lock/dp/B000OZ9VLU/ref=sr_1_1?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1330611841&sr=1-1

Mycroft H

tunney wrote: »

BX 19 wrote: »

My lock got stolen last week, I just bought another Krypto mini. It does the job. I see aldi have motorcycle gear net week, including a chain lock. I might get it as an addition to the U lock.

A cheap motorbike lock is no defence really.

Secondary it would be rather then primary lock

miller82

cojomo2 wrote: »

I think the fahgettaboudit is one of the best for the money, good price on amazon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kryptonite-York-Fahgettaboudit-Mini-Lock/dp/B000OZ9VLU/ref=sr_1_1?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1330611841&sr=1-1

90 euro in halfords for the normal sized one. Trying to find if its cheaper any where else

droidus

cojomo2 wrote: »

I think the fahgettaboudit is one of the best for the money, good price on amazon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kryptonite-York-Fahgettaboudit-Mini-Lock/dp/B000OZ9VLU/ref=sr_1_1?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1330611841&sr=1-1

+1. One of those and a kryptoflex and youre sorted.

cojomo2

miller82 wrote: »

90 euro in halfords for the normal sized one. Trying to find if its cheaper any where else

I wouldn't go for the one in halfords, too big, nowhere near as secure as the one I linked to.

miller82

cojomo2 wrote: »

I wouldn't go for the one in halfords, too big, nowhere near as secure as the one I linked to.

because of the size ? my problem with the smaller one though is less options for locking it

cojomo2

miller82 wrote: »

because of the size ? my problem with the smaller one though is less options for locking it

Yeah..because of the size..i have the smaller one and allthough you are more limited in what you can lock to, ive never found it much of a problem. However you will know better yourself if you really need the bigger one...still a good lock .

Run_to_da_hills

tunney wrote: »

For a decent bike around town

Almax Immobiliser series III 0.7mm lock with a squire padlock

The Almax chain with decent matching lock would weigh more than the average lightweight pushbike and carrying one around would be real pain in the ass.

Wishbone Ash

BX 19 wrote: »

I see aldi have motorcycle gear next week

Not next week - from today. The motorcycle lock is €11.99 and seems to be fairly robust.

Mycroft H

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Not next week - from today. The motorcycle lock is €11.99 and seems to be fairly robust.

I might pick up one funds permitting. I've to fork out on a new tyre first. Wrecked a near new one during the week.

Idleater

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

tunney wrote: »

For a decent bike around town

Almax Immobiliser series III 0.7mm lock with a squire padlock

The Almax chain with decent matching lock would weigh more than the average lightweight pushbike and carrying one around would be real pain in the ass.

I saw a funny quote a while back :
every bike weighs 50lb, a 15lb bike gets a 35lb lock; a 50lb bike...
Apologies for the use of non euro measures :-)

joeKel73

droidus wrote: »

cojomo2 wrote: »

I think the fahgettaboudit is one of the best for the money, good price on amazon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kryptonite-York-Fahgettaboudit-Mini-Lock/dp/B000OZ9VLU/ref=sr_1_1?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1330611841&sr=1-1

+1. One of those and a kryptoflex and youre sorted.

Sorry to bump but it's a good thread!

I got a new bike recently and followed this advice. The lock arrived yesterday and it's just too narrow for my Trek 1.2 (2013). There's only two points I can mount, one twists the back wheel a bit and if locking through the wheel and main vertical bar (like planned) it has to go at an angle to fit... so very little room left for what you're locking to. It wouldn't fit the bar I normally lock to. Also the Kryptoflex 1.2m isn't long enough to get the front wheel, through the saddle and into the lock.

I really should have checked my measurements before ordering! I'll be trying to return it (CRC) and get a Krypronite New York Standard (which has the advantage of being easily mounted too), plus a 1.8m cable.

So just a warning for others reading over the thread like I was!

GreyEagle

Something else to consider. I lost my keys last Wed and ordered a spare key online for my Kryptonite lock on Wed evening, cost $3. The spare key arrived in the post this morning. I consider that to be excellent service.