Dublin bus lane and clearways with on-going blockages

monument

Can we get a list going here?

Does Dublin Bus have reporting systems for reporting ongoing bus lane blockages? If not, why not?

At the evening rush hour, northbound, on Blackhall Place between Blackhall Street and North King Street this kind of thing is always happening even when the outside lane where the motorists legally should be is almost always empty:



Then a little up the road, here, at Manor Street the cycle lane is used as parking even when the clearway in force and buses etc are forced outside the centre of the road line.

Cookie_Monster

monument wrote: »

Does Dublin Bus have reporting systems for reporting ongoing bus lane blockages? If not, why not?

because it's not their job to police the roads...

monument

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

monument wrote: »

Does Dublin Bus have reporting systems for reporting ongoing bus lane blockages? If not, why not?

because it's not their job to police the roads...

I mean an internal system for drivers etc to report on going problems to management so they can work the gardai and council... Nevermind, I was insane to think such a system is in place.

Cookie_Monster

monument wrote: »

I mean an internal system for drivers etc to report on going problems to management so they can work the gardai and council... Nevermind, I was insane to think such a system is in place.

Indeed. Apart from the 'at the moment in time' radio report from drivers reporting traffic / accidents etc I doubt it's really seen as a priority

Victor

AVLS information should be useful for determining where the slowest operational speed are encountered, both on the constant and occasional basis. This may not necessarily be in line with the presence or absence of bus lanes. This information can be tied to the forward facing camera on the bus and the nature of the slowness determined, e.g. the problem may be traffic from side roads impinging on the bus lane.

Certainly I find the bus lanes on Lower Rathmines Road, Camden Street-South Great Georges Street persistently obstructed.

However, the worst choke points are the likes of Rathmines Garda Station where there is no bus lane, but the junctions and bus stops are persistently blocked. There is a bus gate in this location, but it isn't in operation.

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

because it's not their job to police the roads...

The do have a statutory duty to provide a bus service though. And a social duty to report offences. And a common sense duty to themselves to get other people to spend money to help them run an efficient bus service.

AlekSmart

monument wrote: »

I mean an internal system for drivers etc to report on going problems to management so they can work the gardai and council... Nevermind, I was insane to think such a system is in place.

No insanity visible here Monument,except perhaps a slight nervous tic ..?

There is a fully functional reporting system in place through Union/Management committees,individual Driver/Controller reporting,CCTV and Customer Comment reports..:rolleyes:

The company is running out of physical space to store the associated paperwork generated by all of these.

In addition virtually all of the QBC and Bus Lane Network is monitored 24/7 by both DCC and Garda Traffic Camera Systems.

Are you suggesting that all of the various agencies will express Amazed Surprise when you display that photo...?

You;re dead right they will......just before the "Sorry...Not my department" scramble begins.....:(

devnull

The problems with Taxis is not just one with the NTA. it is one with the attitude of the policing in this country that is far too much of a soft touch compared to that in other countries.

Typically a taxi or anyone else committing a traffic offence in a large number of other countries in Europe will result in some action being taken by the police, or shock horror, an actual dedicated transport police outlet. (What is one of them????). This could include a fine or a charge. It's called Zero Tolerance and it works. Because quite frankly Mr Taximan doesn't want to pay that 100 euro fine that will eat into his takings.

However if such thing happens in Ireland. The Typical scenario is that person commits traffic offence, Guard goes up to driver tells him "You cannot park here it is for buses only and you need to move as it's illegal" driver replies: "Sorry, I was just waiting for a few moments for a fare." Officer replies "Ok - don't do it again" taxi driver drives off, goes to a road 5 minutes around the corner and does the very same thing, a few hours later goes back to the same spot forced from by a Garda and the circle repeats all over again.

It's what I hate about the way the policing of traffic is in Dublin, there is far too much "Don't do it again" talk and "Sure, you did wrong but it's too much work to actually punish you" kind of attitude. When we start actually policing these things properly, handing out firm punishments backed up by the courts and taking a zero tolerance view to them and show people it's unacceptable, we then may see a difference.

Relatively minor crime such as the above, in the grand scheme of thing is seen as a distraction, and if this kind of thing was actually dealt with it would never escalate to tragic circumstances which we have seen in the past and could see again in the future.