Price of fuel & how much more can we take?

snaps

Have we just accepted that fuel is just going up and up? I can remember when it was about to hit the 1€ mark a litre and all the protests both here and in the UK. Now here we are with it around 1.60€/l and there is no mention of protests or a back lash on tax reduction. Have i been living with my head burried in the sand or have we all now just accepted that this is how it is going to be now and we just grin and bear it and pay it? Its got to the point now where we as a family have to cut down on the usage of the car. Surely this affects the economy?

Compton

you can protest all you like but has it done any good in the past?

Max Power1

€1 per litre (roughly) of both petrol and diesel (diesel has a bit less tax per litre) is tax.
This is a shocking fact that is just accepted by Irish people for some reason, in addition to the high motor taxes and tolls that we pay.

Normally, you have either high taxes at the pump, or high motor tax, or tolls, to cover a suitable tax intake from fuel but not to cripple them

In Ireland we have all 3!:mad:

2 euro a litre might be too much for a lot of people

snaps

I just find it strange that many years ago we were all moaning and groaning about 1€/l and now look whats happened. It really struck me today when i was doing the school run, put 10€ in the tank and didn't really notice any real movement in the fuel dial. I know recently we (My family) don't go out much at the weekends like we used to do, but is it any wonder anyone does with the cost of fuel. No wonder local business, attractions etc are struggling to get people through the door. I live in the country, but we are fairly lucky that everything we really need is within a reasonable walking distance, including supermarkets, but i can only worry how people in the back of beyond are coping with all of the burden?

Eric Cartman

snaps wrote: »

I know recently we (My family) don't go out much at the weekends like we used to do, but is it any wonder anyone does with the cost of fuel.

its not just families, the sunday drive is a thing of the past now.
the modified car scene and cruising is dying out rapidly.
petrol engines and syphilis fall into the same catagory in most car buyers eyes.
transport companies cant survive.
young people cant afford to run cars anymore.

I would wager that dropping 60c of the euro per litre of fuel that the government takes would cause little to no loss to the revenue as it would be made back in VRT, car sales, motor tax and the increased spending power of the consumer

ottostreet

I would drive my car more if petrol was cheaper. I would go on daytrips to Dublin, and leave my local town for a drive. But petrol is too expensive, so I sit at home unless I genuinely have to go somewhere.

johnos1984

Can all of these threads be merged into one thread.

There seems to be one every other day with the same replies

chinwag

Eric Cartman wrote: »

. . . petrol engines and syphilis fall into the same catagory in most car . . .

But, it's been shown time and time again, here and elsewhere, that petrol is often more suitable than diesel for certain types of driving (city, short runs, etc.). Also, petrol engines have become more economical in recent times.
But overall, I agree with the sentiments expressed here.

snaps

johnos1984 wrote: »

Can all of these threads be merged into one thread.

There seems to be one every other day with the same replies

I done a search before i posted but only found posts on other forums

johnos1984

snaps wrote: »

I done a search before i posted but only found posts on other forums

Maybe they have already been merging them but there has been a nice few of late

Not a dig at you personally but they seem to keep popping up with the same points and arguments being made

snaps

ottostreet wrote: »

I would drive my car more if petrol was cheaper. I would go on daytrips to Dublin, and leave my local town for a drive. But petrol is too expensive, so I sit at home unless I genuinely have to go somewhere.

I agree, We stay at home now much much more now. Barely go out for food either as well. Would love to take the kids to the Zoo in Dublin, but actually wondering if it would be cheaper to get a cheap flight to England for a holiday and combine a visit to the Zoo there? Seems the way its all going now.

NinjaK

shblob wrote: »

you can protest all you like but has it done any good in the past?

So do nothing? Pathetic

johnos1984

snaps wrote: »

Seems a lot of people are feeling the same way then.

Actually no hence there was arguments both ways

snaps

johnos1984 wrote: »

Maybe they have already been merging them but there has been a nice few of late

Not a dig at you personally but they seem to keep popping up with the same points and arguments being made

Seems a lot of people are feeling the same way then.

Zubeneschamali

NinjaK wrote: »

So do nothing? Pathetic

I really object to the law of gravity. Let's organize a protest!

snaps

shblob wrote: »

you can protest all you like but has it done any good in the past?

Surprised the hauliers and commercial users haven't made a stand yet? Cant see how Hauliers are coping with the costs now.

Zubeneschamali

snaps wrote: »

Surprised the hauliers and commercial users haven't made a stand yet? Cant see how Hauliers are coping with the costs now.

They just pass them on?

snaps

snaps wrote: »

Have we just accepted that fuel is just going up and up?............

I personally wouldn't discount the chance of fuel prices continuing to fluctuate in the future. No doubt they will increase over time but I think we will see decreases every now and than so the rate of increase won't be as rapid as many folks are now thinking.

Rowley Birkin QC

My grumble with it is that it's making me doubt my decision to swap a frugal 1.3 Toyota for a relatively thirsty 2.0 BMW!

Our man in Havana

If petrol was €5 a litre idiots would still drive. Ireland is just a bunch of all talk no action whiners.

snaps

Rowley Birkin QC wrote: »

My grumble with it is that it's making me doubt my decision to swap a frugal 1.3 Toyota for a relatively thirsty 2.0 BMW!

Seems you may well be the exception to the rule. Us normal folk are making all the sacrifices at the moment. Making ends meet are getting very tough now. The day to day running of a family car is now being questioned here in this family.

Sesshoumaru

snaps wrote: »

Seems you may well be the exception to the rule. Us normal folk are making all the sacrifices at the moment. Making ends meet are getting very tough now. The day to day running of a family car is now being questioned here in this family.

Have you considered purchasing an electric car like a Renault or Nissan? I offset what I was saving on fuel against the cost of a loan and figured it worked out as affordable for me, buying a 30k EV (Nissan Leaf) is not really comparable to buying a 30k petrol or diesel car. We are averaging almost exactly 2,000 kilometers a month (20,000 in total now since end of April 2011) in our car at a cost of €20 per month. Doing similar amounts of driving in my old car was costing us substantially more than 20 euro per month.

A lot of people on here talking about no longer taking Sunday spins etc. That is one of things we love to do now since me moved away from petrol / diesel and over to electricity. Also a lot of people changed car to get lower motor tax rates, even in recent years as well. 20 euro to do 2,000 kilometers, that has to appeal to at least some of these types of people.

Alanstrainor

Right, this gets closed now. There's a massive Fuel price thread around...i'll see if I can find it.


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