Rent allowance maximum payment

manox

Hi I have applied for rent allowance for house where I pay more then 400e per month and sharing it with 2 other people.I have received the letter from office which says the maximum allowance since 1.1.2012 is 300e how could I apply to it ? should I say we pay different price for each room and I have moved to smaller room which cost me now 300e ?

ShaShaBear

You need to be under this limit in your rent, and you need to be able to prove it. You will likely be asked to present your tenancy agreement for the room with the rent stated on it and you will be expected to give details of your landlord so they can verify all of this. Your only option is to move to a cheaper room and get written proof of how much it costs. They will also call out to inspect your room, so you can't really fob them off saying you rent a room you don't rent.

runswithascript

This limit on rent allowance is a nuisance.

You did not make up this stupid rule and it's most likely not your fault you are now unemployed.

I have heard of people getting around it by moving to another room in the house which is cheaper or by coming to some agreement with their landlord where the landlord will say it is cheaper and you pay them the extra cash.

That is probably fraud though so I am of course not recommending you take this action.

runswithascript

That's some quick moderating there

midlandsmissus

I just rang my landlord for the dreaded talk. And he wants me to keep paying the same amount, just the difference in cash. And he's going to say on our new agreement that it's under the ceiling, when I'll really be paying him the difference in cash. Mean old f*cker but what could I do?

wmpdd3

Don't do it, its you making a false claim, not him. its you that could have to pay back the rent payment to the sw. while your landlord just moves in another tennent. just paying the difference was the way it worked a few years ago but now there are checks in place to make sure you are not doing this.

any way how could you afford the payments? 55euro per week, out of 188. just think how are you going to afford bills?

Caveman1

manox wrote: »

Hi I have applied for rent allowance for house where I pay more then 400e per month and sharing it with 2 other people.I have received the letter from office which says the maximum allowance since 1.1.2012 is 300e how could I apply to it ? should I say we pay different price for each room and I have moved to smaller room which cost me now 300e ?

You could get a letter from the other tenants to say your only paying €300 a month, just make an arrangement with them that you will contribute the difference towards bills, at least that way its not fraud.

I dont understand why is the limit so low? I would hardly be allowed stay at my parents house for 300 a month, my landlord actually rang me to say she's putting my rent up :mad: so its obviously not making landlords lower the rents, needless to say ill be looking for somewhere else to live. My problem now is trying to find somewhere cheap enough so its within the limits for rent allowance.

midlandsmissus

wmpdd3 wrote: »

Don't do it, its you making a false claim, not him. its you that could have to pay back the rent payment to the sw. while your landlord just moves in another tennent. just paying the difference was the way it worked a few years ago but now there are checks in place to make sure you are not doing this.

any way how could you afford the payments? 55euro per week, out of 188. just think how are you going to afford bills?

Sorry did you think I was the OP or where did the 55 euro figure come from? I currently pay 40 euro rent per week, it's tight enough as it is to be honest, as a matter of interest what does everyone else pay

wmpdd3

sorry, yes i did think you were the op, i was working it out as €30 plus the extra €100 per month as €23 per week.

how do you pay €40 should it not be €30

Changes in 2012
It was announced in Budget 2012 that the minimum contribution towards rent will increase.

From 1 January 2012 the new minimum contribution by single tenants is now €30 (an increase of €6 per week). Couples pay a minimum of €35 per week.

http://www.welfare.ie/en/schemes/supplementarywelfareallowance/pages/rentsupplement.aspx

ShaShaBear

I pay €30 a week (my rent is €400 a month, which is €65 under the limit for my area).
And to Caveman, the limit is different for a person renting a room to a person renting a house/apartment. OP is renting a room (and a bloody expensive one at that, since I have a one bedroom apartment to myself for €400)

midlandsmissus

wmpdd3 wrote: »

sorry, yes i did think you were the op, i was working it out as €30 plus the extra €100 per month as €23 per week.

how do you pay €40 should it not be €30



http://www.welfare.ie/en/schemes/supplementarywelfareallowance/pages/rentsupplement.aspx

Yeah that's another issue in itself, Basically when I moved in the landlord said it was 400 a month and I asked could I pay it weekly and I've been paying 100 per week. However the RA people worked out correctly that 400 per month is 92 p/w and they pay me accordingly.
However I actually pay a hundred a week, have done since the beginning, when to be honest I think it was me who said that's a hundred per week and the landlord didn't correct me on how much it should be per week. It was only when I got the rent allowance I realised I'd made a mistake.
That was six months ago, it sounds really stupid, but I'm as soft as butter, my landlord is scary and I don't know what to say, as he'll probably just say well you said you'd give me a hundred weekly?

midlandsmissus

midlandsmissus wrote: »

Yeah that's another issue in itself, Basically when I moved in the landlord said it was 400 a month and I asked could I pay it weekly and I've been paying 100 per week. However the RA people worked out correctly that 400 per month is 92 p/w and they pay me accordingly.
However I actually pay a hundred a week, have done since the beginning, when to be honest I think it was me who said that's a hundred per week and the landlord didn't correct me on how much it should be per week. It was only when I got the rent allowance I realised I'd made a mistake.
That was six months ago, it sounds really stupid, but I'm as soft as butter, my landlord is scary and I don't know what to say, as he'll probably just say well you said you'd give me a hundred weekly?

I'm seeing the CWO officer tomorrow do you think I should bring up that I'm paying 40? I can't figure out what the right thing to do is. He took the nose off me today when I rang about rent reduction. I really need to try to not be such a f*cking wuss.

pejay

I got a call today to my home from the CWO regarding the house i am renting and the new rent limits, my house is €850.00 a month, and the new limit for my area is €675.00,

Got a letter last week and a review form basically telling me to re-negotiate the rent with the landlord, or find somewhere cheaper to live for my family size, i was in a dizzy regarding this as i posted somewhere alse on here for advice,anyway the letting agency i rent through contacted the landlord on my behalf and they were not willing to drop to the new limit,

In the meantime the CWO called today to let me know that i would be able to stay on in my house however my weekly contribution would be higher than i have been paying of €35.00 per week, I don't know how much more i will have to pay as i have to wait for the letter telling me my new payment.

pejay

midlandsmissus wrote: »

I'm seeing the CWO officer tomorrow do you think I should bring up that I'm paying 40? I can't figure out what the right thing to do is. He took the nose off me today when I rang about rent reduction. I really need to try to not be such a f*cking wuss.

Yes your rent per week is €92.30

They work out your rent by multiplying it by 12 then divide by 52 so for your case its

400 X 12 = 4800
4800 diveded by 52 = €92.30

So you have been overpaying him :eek:

charlemont

I'v been paying over the limits for ages here but my CWO doesn't have a problem with it as I'm getting Parking, Laundry, Refuse included, If I rented a place where I only paid €30 on top it would be a bedsit and in most bedsits tenants still have to pay those charges so it makes no sense for me to move, I'v a very nice place here even though the neighbourhood is dodgy.:cool:

pejay

midlandsmissus wrote: »

Sorry did you think I was the OP or where did the 55 euro figure come from? I currently pay 40 euro rent per week, it's tight enough as it is to be honest, as a matter of interest what does everyone else pay

You should only be paying €30.00 per week if you are single and providing you have not any other income coming in.

€30 single people
€35 for couple

pejay

charlemont wrote: »

I'v been paying over the limits for ages here but my CWO doesn't have a problem with it as I'm getting Parking, Laundry, Refuse included, If I rented a place where I only paid €30 on top it would be a bedsit and in most bedsits tenants still have to pay those charges so it makes no sense for me to move, I'v a very nice place here even though the neighbourhood is dodgy.:cool:

Same as me charlemont i have been in my house 2 years now, i think there is discretion with the CWO regarding this new rent limit, if everybody has to move out of their propertys surelly it's going to put pressure on local authority housing which is stretched to limits,

I can understand if you have a a couple with no children renting a 2/3 bedroomed house, or a couple with 1 child renting a 3/4 bedroom house then review it.

pejay

charlemont wrote: »

I'v been paying over the limits for ages here but my CWO doesn't have a problem with it as I'm getting Parking, Laundry, Refuse included, If I rented a place where I only paid €30 on top it would be a bedsit and in most bedsits tenants still have to pay those charges so it makes no sense for me to move, I'v a very nice place here even though the neighbourhood is dodgy.:cool:

Have you had your review letter come in yet and your new limit form

midlandsmissus

pejay wrote: »

Yes your rent per week is €92.30

They work out your rent by multiplying it by 12 then divide by 52 so for your case its

400 X 12 = 4800
4800 diveded by 52 = €92.30

So you have been overpaying him :eek:

He is horrible though, so I know if I point all this out he will say it's you who wanted to pay weekly, and you who said 100.

Funny though when I mentioned to him today about rent allowance going down he was very quick to multiply by 12 and divide by 52 so he well knows I was overpaying him and didn't mention it. But it's my own fault for being stupid as well.
I was just so desperate to pay him weekly at the beginning because he wanted a deposit and month's rent up front, and I didn;t have it and asked could I pay a deposit and then pay the rent weekly.
So stressed over the whole thing :mad:

I think the best way is to say to him I will now pay him monthly, one monthly payment of 400 euro so at least I will be paying him the correct amount then and receiving the right rent allowance then?

pejay

midlandsmissus wrote: »

He is horrible though, so I know if I point all this out he will say it's you who wanted to pay weekly, and you who said 100.

Funny though when I mentioned to him today about rent allowance going down he was very quick to multiply by 12 and divide by 52 so he well knows I was overpaying him and didn't mention it. But it's my own fault for being stupid as well.
I was just so desperate to pay him weekly at the beginning because he wanted a deposit and month's rent up front, and I didn;t have it and asked could I pay a deposit and then pay the rent weekly.
So stressed over the whole thing :mad:

I think the best way is to say to him I will now pay him monthly, one monthly payment of 400 euro so at least I will be paying him the correct amount then and receiving the right rent allowance then?

Look you are probably a softie like i was, tell him you want to change monthly,
This is what i do and i find i know where i am with my finances, get your rent allowance paid to YOU weekly and put it away safely when your rent day is due then add up what you have and you add the difference to make up the €400
Dont mind if he is horrible, i know its easier said than done most landlords get paid monthly, and yes it was you that suggested weekly but now you are suggesting otherwise, he can't put you in the firing squad just get the thing of your chest and out the way you prob have more things to worry about than worring what he is going to say.

Are you getting your rent allowance paid to you or directly to him

midlandsmissus

pejay wrote: »

Look you are probably a softie like i was, tell him you want to change monthly,
This is what i do and i find i know where i am with my finances, get your rent allowance paid to YOU weekly and put it away safely when your rent day is due then add up what you have and you add the difference to make up the €400
Dont mind if he is horrible, i know its easier said than done most landlords get paid monthly, and yes it was you that suggested weekly but now you are suggesting otherwise, he can't put you in the firing squad just get the thing of your chest and out the way you prob have more things to worry about than worring what he is going to say.

Are you getting your rent allowance paid to you or directly to him

Thanks, yes I'm going to get my finances sorted out and pay him monthly. Paid to me. Trying not be a softie anymore! Thanks for your advice.

pejay

midlandsmissus wrote: »

Thanks, yes I'm going to get my finances sorted out and pay him monthly. Paid to me. Trying not be a softie anymore! Thanks for your advice.

ah no worries its a dog eat dog world out there ;););)