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Making the swap to Cannon

  • 28-02-2012 1:33am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,946 ✭✭✭


    I really hate to do this but I simply have to move to cannon.

    I have a d60 which is in mint condition
    stock 18-55mm and a nikkor 50mm 1.4

    I've sort of lost interest in taking pictures right now, I've hit a creative slump for the last 6-8 months with photography and with the way my summer is shaping up I'd like to have the option of documenting it by video!

    So I was looking at getting a 550D. What do you think would be a fair price to ask for the above equipment? I understand depreciation etc, but I do take very good care of my gear. I have all the boxes and manuals etc and there isnt a mark on anything!

    Im not asking for offers, just wondering what I should expect for a trade in or if I sell on adverts.ie!


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 170 ✭✭aurin07


    Why not get a d3000/3100 they have video capabilities do they not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,946 ✭✭✭red_ice


    d3000 doesnt do video, the 3100 does! But Nikon is terrible at recording video compared to Cannon. The d5000 in lower light settings gave a horrible tearing/interlacing problem with playback and that's unacceptable in my books!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 9,047 CMod ✭✭✭✭CabanSail


    red_ice wrote: »
    I really hate to do this but I simply have to move to cannon.


    Try looking a the range offered by Canon. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,946 ✭✭✭red_ice


    CabanSail wrote: »
    Try looking a the range offered by Canon. :rolleyes:

    I have, and for my price range and overall Canon offer better video quality do they not?

    I looked up the d3100 and apparently its auto focus is very bad for video


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,946 ✭✭✭red_ice


    oh wait, i see what you did there, loads of help :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    red_ice wrote: »
    I really hate to do this but I simply have to move to cannon.

    I have a d60 which is in mint condition
    stock 18-55mm and a nikkor 50mm 1.4

    I've sort of lost interest in taking pictures right now, I've hit a creative slump for the last 6-8 months with photography and with the way my summer is shaping up I'd like to have the option of documenting it by video!

    So I was looking at getting a 550D. What do you think would be a fair price to ask for the above equipment? I understand depreciation etc, but I do take very good care of my gear. I have all the boxes and manuals etc and there isnt a mark on anything!

    Im not asking for offers, just wondering what I should expect for a trade in or if I sell on adverts.ie!

    What do I think would be a fair price ... have a look at Ebay/Adverts etc and see what they generally sell for and pick a figure slightly higher than than.

    The fact that you take very good care of your gear might earn you an extra €10 or €20, but at the end of the day its only worth what someone is willing to purchase it for, I have a mint condition Canon G11 which I have taken less than 500 images with, it was purchased a few years ago at a cost of approx €500, the current resale value of said camera is €200-250 (the fact that it has hardly been used doesn't really matter to most),

    In general all that the seller cares about is that they get it cheaper than the new price, most buyers expect to get a secondhand camera for near half the price of a new one. (I'm usually the buyer), as for places to sell.... there are loads of places to sell, I've recently sold a Canon 600mm F4 IS lens, I had it up on adverts for months and no (realistic/decent) offers I threw it up elsewhere and it sold in a matter of days, I'm sure I will be with others when I say that adverts has gone to the dogs lately and its not worth putting adverts up there because of the amount of lowballers, if you are selling for a fair price and willing to wait someone will purchase it for close to your asking price....but the longer that you wait the lower the actual value of the camera gets ...the less likely you are to meet your asking - it all depends on if you are stubborn enough or willing to swallow pride and take a hit financially.

    The 600mm that I sold I purchased for close to 10K in 2007 (I got less than half that when I sold it on, they sell new for approx 6-7K online.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    red_ice wrote: »
    I looked up the d3100 and apparently its auto focus is very bad for video

    Just so you don't go into this with any misconceptions: All DSLRs have bad autofocus in video. If the autofocus is very important you'd want to go for one of the mirrorless alternatives, but they usually have their own issues. Even the very best DSLR video autofocus will make a lot of your shots junk as they shift around trying to decide what to focus on, and God help you if you want to do anything in low light. You might want to consider getting a D5100 if you want to avoid the bother of swapping to Canon; full 1080p with selectable frame rate and roughly the same priceband as the 550d.

    What do you intend on filming? If you're outside with bright light you can just close down the aperture for a wide depth of field and not have to worry about focus too much. In my experience the shallow depth of field of DSLRs is great for a nice cinematic look for tightly controlled shots (like, if you were shooting a short film), but poorly suited to dynamic situations where you have to adapt quickly. You might want to consider a camcorder depending on what you're doing.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Maybe I'm wrong here, but on my 7D I don't think you can get the camera to do any kind of auto focusing during filming. It's all manual? (I rarely, if ever, use the video mode though, so maybe there are settings that can be changed?).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 288 ✭✭thedarkroom


    Zillah wrote: »
    Just so you don't go into this with any misconceptions: All DSLRs have bad autofocus in video. If the autofocus is very important you'd want to go for one of the mirrorless alternatives, but they usually have their own . . . . . .
    . . . . . .shots (like, if you were shooting a short film), but poorly suited to dynamic situations where you have to adapt quickly. You might want to consider a camcorder depending on what you're doing.

    Another advantage of the D5100 is the socket which allows you use a separate microphone rather than using the built in one. I'm not familiar with Canon but generally with video on DSLR cameras, the mic pics up all the noises created by the user handling the camera, and autofocus and zoom noises. A socket for an external mic would be (in my opinion anyway) and essential requirement. The D5100 also has a rotating screen on the back which allows filming at awkward angles, not essential, but very useful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    The 600D has a mic socket and articulated screen, and would probably be a better choice for video IMHO.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 288 ✭✭thedarkroom


    The 600D has a mic socket and articulated screen, and would probably be a better choice for video IMHO.

    I'm not familiar with Canon cameras so I couldn't comment on the video comparison but I see that the 600D is €60 cheaper than the Nikon D5100 so is certainly worth a look.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,627 ✭✭✭Sgt Pepper 64


    red_ice wrote: »
    I really hate to do this but I simply have to move to cannon.

    I have a d60 which is in mint condition
    stock 18-55mm and a nikkor 50mm 1.4

    I've sort of lost interest in taking pictures right now, I've hit a creative slump for the last 6-8 months with photography and with the way my summer is shaping up I'd like to have the option of documenting it by video!

    So I was looking at getting a 550D. What do you think would be a fair price to ask for the above equipment? I understand depreciation etc, but I do take very good care of my gear. I have all the boxes and manuals etc and there isnt a mark on anything!

    Im not asking for offers, just wondering what I should expect for a trade in or if I sell on adverts.ie!

    Why buy a DSLR with video capablities when you want a Video Camera that is specially designed for the job?
    The video part is just bolted on, and although very good, can you imagine shooting long videos with what is primary designed to be a camera?

    I would do some more research and think about what you want \ need!

    Edit just seen what Zillah wrote!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    Why buy a DSLR with video capablities when you want a Video Camera that is specially designed for the job?

    Lenses.


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