TULLAMORE PREMIER SALE

Western Pomise

Couldnt get to Tullamore,anyone there?...what was overall standard like?,In Carrick on Shannon a fortnight ago....standard of bulls very up and down...anything half decent making 3k+.....what was trade like in Tullamore?

Cran

went over a couple of hours, thought the standard was decent no bull really stood out for me to be honest. Huge crowd and the trade was strong and some bulls not sold at what I thought decent money 3k+. The champ heifer was a serious animal, didn't hang around to see her in the ring read wasn't sold at 5k after...
I'm looking to get back into cattle after 5 year planned hiatus, Charolais really are still the bees knees I think...

Muckit

Couldn't get going on Saturday myself, but here is the link to the official charolais society report if it's any use to people.....

http://www.charolais.ie/showandsales.php?id=85

reilig

Muckit wrote: »

Couldn't get going on Saturday myself, but here is the link to the official charolais society report if it's any use to people.....

http://www.charolais.ie/showandsales.php?id=85

Did you sell your fellow yet Muckit?

flatout11

judging was hit and miss - mostly miss, some good straight bulls that could be picked up right enough, thought the heifers were poor enough tbh

Western Pomise

In carrick on shannon the judging was wayward....overall champion bull made about half what highest price bull made!!.....the man buying is the best judge.

Muckit

Western Pomise wrote: »

In carrick on shannon the judging was wayward....overall champion bull made about half what highest price bull made!!.....the man buying is the best judge.

What does that say about linear scoring? Some of those judges are scorers :rolleyes:

Tora Bora

Muckit wrote: »

What does that say about linear scoring? Some of those judges are scorers :rolleyes:

Some fellas could bring a weed of a bull to some of these society sales, and always get a rosette:rolleyes:
Who you are, not what you have

Bigbird1

Western Pomise wrote: »

In carrick on shannon the judging was wayward....overall champion bull made about half what highest price bull made!!.....the man buying is the best judge.

the animal judged the champion is generally a top class animal, even though another animal or 2 could beat him in price, the judge will have a more critical eye than the farmer, he looks for muscle, style, length, correctness, head, and how the animal walks and stands.

Sure i often seen a plain CF52 sired bull makin 5 grand!

Western Pomise

Not saying I know anything about judging stock but often times the man buying is very capable of taking account of linear scoring,muscle fat depth,correctness of gait etc etc...Judges have a circuit....and its not hard for a breeder who shows regularly to drop something to a judge.....as said Breeder may be judging the other mans stock in a sale in a few months after.....its very rarely a breeder in any breed of cattle or sheep wins a rosette if they are not in the golden circle....but thats life.

island of tighe

you are after spilling the can of worms all over the floor there western

Western Pomise

island of tighe wrote: »

you are after spilling the can of worms all over the floor there western

Well....as Jack Nicholson said in a few good men....you cant handle the truth:)

pajero12

I think your thinking a bit too much into it, That said we've had a bull that made a 5 figure sum that that didn't get a ribbon atall :P

Western Pomise

TBH I am not reading anything into judging,its one mans opinion on any given day...but you would want to be very naive as a Small Ped breeder with a good animal...up against a big well known breeder with very similiar animal in going for a rosette....The big man numbers wise will win 8 times out of 10 which is kinda wrong.

RobinBanks

Anybody go to Tullamore on Sat. Heard the breeder of Crossmolina Euro had 3 bulls there and cleaned up

razor8

Cran wrote: »

went over a couple of hours, thought the standard was decent no bull really stood out for me to be honest. Huge crowd and the trade was strong and some bulls not sold at what I thought decent money 3k+. The champ heifer was a serious animal, didn't hang around to see her in the ring read wasn't sold at 5k after...
I'm looking to get back into cattle after 5 year planned hiatus, Charolais really are still the bees knees I think...

are you going to reduce your sheep flock cran?

Cran

razor8 wrote: »

are you going to reduce your sheep flock cran?

No have enough ground to carry good bit more stock. Reason for the cattle idea is grass management (and interest), would prob need a new shed though maybe not year one but defo year 2 as would like to finish calves...
Think if ran 15/20 sucklers along with the sheep would make grass management easier, and also add little diversity:) At this stage though its more a medium plan than immediate....

razor8

its not a bad situation to be in!

Muckit

RobinBanks wrote: »

Anybody go to Tullamore on Sat. Heard the breeder of Crossmolina Euro had 3 bulls there and cleaned up

Wasn't at it myself either, just read report in the IFJ this week. He was on the front cover of the IFJ also at the end of December with three nice bulls, could very well be the same ones he had out in Tullamore. Great fronts to them.

Cran

razor8 wrote: »

its not a bad situation to be in!

It is I call it managing my current situation, but reading some of the other trends it might be called not producing to the farms potential:D