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Quick question about the Household Charge

  • 26-02-2012 5:43pm
    #1
    Fogmatic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭


    I heard a rumour that the Household Charge would be deducted from the State Pension. Any basis in fact?

    In case you think this is the wrong forum, I tried the State Benefits one, but they locked that thread as it was discussing speculation and could cause claimants undue worry, and this was the right forum to discuss government policies.

    I'm just trying to check the facts, as I'd rather avoid the hassle of paying twice and generating avoidable extra paperwork. The relevant Social Services number is always busy, and I haven't found anything about it on the web; I'm posting here on the offchance of somebody here knowing the rules.


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  • #2
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Fogmatic wrote: »
    I heard a rumour that the Household Charge would be deducted from the State Pension. Any basis in fact?
    I doubt it very much. There is nothing remotely suggesting this on the website


  • #3
    Fogmatic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Fogmatic


    I know, dvpower, but I wasn't sure how up to date they keep it. Thanks for responding anyway.


  • #4
    Fogmatic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Fogmatic


    Someone's now informed me that the Household Charge can't be deducted from pensions/other income.
    The rumour might have been sparked by a proposal to deduct fines (in general) from income (which would affect Household Charge defaulters, if put into practice).


  • #5
    Athlone_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭Athlone_Bhoy


    It can't be just took off people. It's a statute, they need your consent or inaction.


  • #6
    Godge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,727 ✭✭✭✭Godge


    Athlone_Bhoy wrote: »
    It can't be just took off people. It's a statute, they need your consent or inaction.


    Not this again, wasn't there a proposal to ban anyone else who spouted this rubbish. This has been shot down so many times now.


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  • #7
    Athlone_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭Athlone_Bhoy


    Godge wrote: »
    Not this again, wasn't there a proposal to ban anyone else who spouted this rubbish. This has been shot down so many times now.

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/46/inactionisnotconsent.jpg/

    Please explain this!


  • #8
    Atlantis50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭Atlantis50


    Fogmatic wrote: »
    I heard a rumour that the Household Charge would be deducted from the State Pension. Any basis in fact?

    In case you think this is the wrong forum, I tried the State Benefits one, but they locked that thread as it was discussing speculation and could cause claimants undue worry, and this was the right forum to discuss government policies.

    I'm just trying to check the facts, as I'd rather avoid the hassle of paying twice and generating avoidable extra paperwork. The relevant Social Services number is always busy, and I haven't found anything about it on the web; I'm posting here on the offchance of somebody here knowing the rules.

    See this story:
    People who fail to pay the new €100 household charge may see the payment being deducted from their wages or social welfare.

    The tax, which comes into effect in January, is facing stiff opposition with more than 15 TDs now publicly refusing to pay the fee.

    The Environment Minister Phil Hogan has already stated that there is no provision in the new legislation which indicates that non-payers of the household charge will be sent to jail.

    Instead, it has been mooted that a fine of €2,500 would be imposed, but the Irish Examiner reports that the money could simply be deducted from a person's wages or social welfare.

    The Fines Act 2010, which is currently being phased in, introduced measures to prevent the automatic imprisonment of people who fail to pay fines.

    Last month, Minister for Justice Alan Shatter said he intended to introduce a system of “attachment orders” allowing money to be taken from wages or social welfare payments to pay a debt or fine over time.

    It is now thought that the provisions of the Fines Act could be used in the case of anyone who fails to pay the household charge.

    Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/household-charge-boycotters-may-have-fines-deducted-from-wages-532563.html#ixzz1ndYzDubk


  • #9
    Cedrus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Cedrus


    Athlone_Bhoy wrote: »
    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/46/inactionisnotconsent.jpg/

    Please explain this!

    Irish Times
    Independent

    Explained.


  • #10
    Fogmatic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Fogmatic


    Thanks for clarifying that, Atlantis (for everyone!).
    I wouldn't have objected to the charge being deducted as instalments from income (as an option, at least), as some people would find that easier. I just wanted to double-check so I know where I am.
    The question's answered as far as I'm concerned, so I'll now go ahead as before and pay the thing (at a leisurely pace!).


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