Dream M4A1?

The One Who Knocks

So anyway, my current m4's falling apart

(I suspect it's actually an Ak in an m4 shell )
so I was wondering what should I get next?

I'm looking for:

M4/M4A1 with RIS (MUST)
Battery located in Stock (MUST)
9.6v Battery
Blowback (optional)
Preferably systema, (PTW optional)
MUST NOT BE CQB VERSION
Note: No LIPO please, (BOOM)


Basically I'm wondering what your dream m4 would be?


My current: (pictured below)
(Amazing gun, great starter, lasted 2 years)

M15A4 RIS Carbine With Crane Stock (AR004M-2-X)



So as you can see, I have a style of m4, (Crane stock & RIS is a Must)

I seen a nice one in MIA
http://www.mainirishairsoft.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=967

but I'm presuming it would be a nightmare to upgrade


As for budget, the sky's the limit (although try to keep it under €800)



Thanks everyone,

thermo

got one of these from hobby last week and very impressed so far!

Hande hoche!

If you're a patient man you could wait for the real sword M4. Supposed to be out this Summer.

The One Who Knocks

thermo wrote: »

got one of these from hobby last week and very impressed so far!

Very nice indeed, what price are u talking for an ehobby import?

Anyway, I'm a picky person, and would prefer one with this thingy (dunno name) so if you see anything, lemme know
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@hande, yeah real sword looks nice, not sure if I can wait though lol

thermo

got it in hobbyairsoft in rathcoole.

Gatling

thermo wrote: »

got one of these from hobby last week and very impressed so far!

Dam you

thermo

Gatling wrote: »

Dam you

you need the emoticon with the green eyes.

on topic,
the vfc m4 line are very good too.

T4RGET

Jamez735 wrote: »

Very nice indeed, what price are u talking for an ehobby import?

Anyway, I'm a picky person, and would prefer one with this thingy (dunno name) so if you see anything, lemme know
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@hande, yeah real sword looks nice, not sure if I can wait though lol

that part you have circled in that picture is called a delta ring, as for my dream M4, I'd have to say the HK 416, not an M4 but based on the same platform. Right now I have a Raider with a load of custom parts on it which looks awesome and im very happy with it

Unsinnig

I'll echo Thermo on this and say the VFC M4's are sound, and really well priced for higher end aegs. In the 416 range, you can't go wrong with a Top Tech T418

Pretty looking too:
VFC M4ES Tactical Carbine


Top Tech T418

Captain Chaos

Unsinnig wrote: »

I'll echo Thermo on this and say the VFC M4's are sound, and really well priced for higher end aegs. In the 416 range, you can't go wrong with a Top Tech T418

Pretty looking too:
VFC M4ES Tactical Carbine


Top Tech T418

The VFC 416s are better beasts then the G&G Top Techs. Internally and externally.

A quality M4, go for either VFC or G&P.

T4RGET

Captain Chaos wrote: »

The VFC 416s are better beasts then the G&G Top Techs. Internally and externally.

A quality M4, go for either VFC or G&P.

I've wanted an 416 for ages and when i found out toptech made them i was so happy, until i started reading about them, they seem to have a lot of problems. many people seem to think the VFC ones are far better, so might look into them at some stage, never owned a VFC AEG.

The One Who Knocks

ooohh me likey this!




It's essentially this

http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/AEG_AEP_Systema_PTW_Professional_Training_Weapons_Systema_PTW_Professional_Training_Weapon_M4A1_SUPER_MAX_Collapsible_Stock_Version_font_color_yellow_Free_Shipping_font.htm

with G&P RAS II, as i already have a scope & gl launcher

T4RGET

how is that GL attached to the bottom of that?

Inari

T4RGET wrote: »

how is that GL attached to the bottom of that?

The Grenade launcher is mounted using the standard mounting - there is no lower portion of the RIS kit. On delta ring systems, its the only mount to use as otherwise the launcher acts as a lever and can very easily remove the bottom section of your rail kit.

I have to echo Thermo - my dream M4 is my new MRP-L; I've it tarted up and am loving it. Although, even now...I still have a soft spot for the G&G LR300 long version

T4RGET

Inari wrote: »

The Grenade launcher is mounted using the standard mounting - there is no lower portion of the RIS kit. On delta ring systems, its the only mount to use as otherwise the launcher acts as a lever and can very easily remove the bottom section of your rail kit.

I have to echo Thermo - my dream M4 is my new MRP-L; I've it tarted up and am loving it. Although, even now...I still have a soft spot for the G&G LR300 long version

that's interesting so that means you could put a battery in the front (if it's front wired and the GL is removed obviously) due to the RIS being two halves?

The One Who Knocks

T4RGET wrote: »

that's interesting so that means you could put a battery in the front (if it's front wired and the GL is removed obviously) due to the RIS being two halves?

In theory yeah, but the batterys in the stock as far as I know,

T4RGET

Jamez735 wrote: »

In theory yeah, but the batterys in the stock as far as I know,

figured as much but just interesting to see a RIS with the potential. good alternative to those carbine owners who done want to go re wiring their gearboxes.

Evade

T4RGET wrote: »

figured as much but just interesting to see a RIS with the potential. good alternative to those carbine owners who done want to go re wiring their gearboxes.

Most (all?) RIS that attach using the delta ring from the original hand guard are like that.

T4RGET

Evade wrote: »

Most (all?) RIS that attach using the delta ring from the original hand guard are like that.

may be but I've just never seen one

MonkeyGuy

T4RGET wrote: »

how is that GL attached to the bottom of that?

It looks like a railed version so it's just 20mm clamps. There's covers on the rails which threw me off for a second.

My dream m4:



Someone had to do it...

Puding

most airsoft would use a ris but this method is actually the original and still the most used for m203 this picture shows how it is connected more clearly http://www.modelguns.co.uk/images/m4mm203c.jpg.

I prefer this method myself as it does not site as low and is more realistic but that is me http://pub.mahawarman.net/rizal/101th%20M4.JPG . It is only the new models in recent years which have started to used the ris http://olive-drab.com/images/grenade_launcher_m320_01_700.jpg

MonkeyGuy

Oh wait woah what the... That is a rail cover on the side right?

Lemming

Jamez735 wrote: »

Note: No LIPO please, (BOOM)

I'll not bother with the rest of the thread but I will say this; the above bit is misinformed rubbish. Everyone has heard the 'horror' stories, but LiPo batteries have been used for years in other hobbies without much hitch, and indeed with airsoft as well; for however many airsofters have at least one LiPo battery in their collection, how many have had bad experiences? I would wager that number is quite small indeed.

Also, saying no LiPo means what exactly? You can plug an 8.4v in just as easily as a LiPo once they both have connector-type compatibility with the gun in question. So you don't want a LiPo battery? No problem, just get an NiMh one. Job done without restricting your choice of gun.

Puding

MonkeyGuy wrote: »

Oh wait woah what the... That is a rail cover on the side right?

yes their is a rail on the side, the standard m3 ris ( orginal ) is made up of a 3 sided section ( top left and right ) and a separate lower section

MonkeyGuy

Puding wrote: »

yes their is a rail on the side, the standard m3 ris ( orginal ) is made up of a 3 sided section ( top left and right ) and a separate lower section

Aaaaah that explains it, I'm used to the all-in-one rail sets like on the 416. Well now I feel silly, but that's cool, I didn't know it existed, it's pretty class. I assume it's just a sturdier way to attach it than using the rails?

If someone could build the m4 SOPMOD that the SAS had in the first Modern Warfare that'd be my dream m4. IR laser and all.

Puding

the m203 came before the ris so the standard ris is designed to allow the m203

the cod m4 is easy to make, standard M4, cut the front sight off or replace the block with a low profile one and a peq2

MonkeyGuy

Puding wrote: »

the cod m4 is easy to make, standard M4, cut the front sight off or replace the block with a low profile one and a peq2

Aren't those PEQ2s that actually have the lasers really hard to get?

Evade

MonkeyGuy wrote: »

Aren't those PEQ2s that actually have the lasers really hard to get?

I found one after 8 seconds of googling, so no.

Puding

non functioning ones are cheap and picking up a cheap laser pointer is easy enough, making it easier just to make one

MonkeyGuy

An IR laser though, are they even legal?

Evade

MonkeyGuy wrote: »

An IR laser though, are they even legal?

Not for airsoft because they would be outside the 630-680nm wavelength and over 5mW.


Edit: Why would you even want one you can't see it with the naked eye?

MonkeyGuy

Well when I think of the word "dream" I think of what may seem unlikely or even possible. I'd like to have all the NVGs and UAVs and what-have-you if it was a "dream" scenario.

Sorry if I've gone somewhat tangental to the OPs original intent.

Evade

MonkeyGuy wrote: »

Well when I think of the word "dream" I think of what may seem unlikely or even possible. I'd like to have all the NVGs and UAVs and what-have-you if it was a "dream" scenario.

Sorry if I've gone somewhat tangental to the OPs original intent.

Oh, in that case I'd like a legally held and unrestricted real one with an unlimited supply of M885A1 ammo.

MonkeyGuy

Evade wrote: »

Oh, in that case I'd like a legally held and unrestricted real one with an unlimited supply of M885A1 ammo.

Well I think that's perhaps a little unnecessary...

The One Who Knocks

When I say "dream" I mean pretend you have €5000. What m4 would you get? (airsoft) what attachments? etc

I'm talking about systema ptws, not real guns

On a side note, what do you guys think of KWA M4 SIR, found here?
http://www.mainirishairsoft.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=716

I might get it, what do yous recommend?

Puding

dream aeg does not always mean it has to be expensive

The One Who Knocks

Puding wrote: »

dream aeg does not always mean it has to be expensive

true, but how about dream ptws?

MonkeyGuy

Hmmm... Perhaps an m4 PDW, the VFC one probably.