Planning application additional info

Coughlo

Hi all,this is my first time on boards.ie so forgive my ignorance.we were due to get our decision on renovating a bungalow that had commercial planning tomorrow.the application was to change the property to residential,demolish dilapidated portacabins behind house,build a sunroom and garage.
Instead of finding out yeah or neigh they want additional info on another portacabin at the end of the garden which our architect inadvertently omitted.we are planning to put timber cladding on it and use it as a garden shed.does anyone know if this means we'll have to wait another full 4 weeks for a decision.baby due end of July and the work will take 3 months from start.we were hoping we'd start next week!
Thanks

muffler

First of all you were never ever going to be in a position to start next week. Once a decision is made on your application there is then a 4 week period allowed for appeals and if no appeals lodged then the final grant of permssion is issued. After that you have to submit a commencement notice to the building control dept which will entail waiting a minimum of 2 week before starting. Your architect should have advised you of this.

To answer your question. When you submit the details being sought the PA then have a max period of 4 weeks to make a decision on the application.

sydthebeat

+1 to the above

As an aside, in the vast majority of planning applications the planners are looking for additional information. This is par for the course at this stage.

as muffler says, the decision could take another 4 weeks from date that the information is supplied to the planner... and then you have to wait another 4 weeks beyond that until you get your legal final grant of permission.

so im guessing a minimum of 9 weeks... plus the two for the commencement notice.. brings us up to mid May before you could conceivably start work.

Coughlo

sydthebeat wrote: »

+1 to the above

As an aside, in the vast majority of planning applications the planners are looking for additional information. This is par for the course at this stage.

as muffler says, the decision could take another 4 weeks from date that the information is supplied to the planner... and then you have to wait another 4 weeks beyond that until you get your legal final grant of permission.

so im guessing a minimum of 9 weeks... plus the two for the commencement notice.. brings us up to mid May before you could conceivably start work.

Sorry lads,phone was dead.i didn't explain the situation properly in the post.the inside of the bungalow is laid out in offices so we need to gut the inside of it and put up stud partitions throughout,kitchen, bathrooms etc.thats the work we were hoping to start straight away if we get the decision to go back to residential.We're aware of the 4 weeks appeal time

Coughlo

Coughlo wrote: »

sydthebeat wrote: »

+1 to the above

As an aside, in the vast majority of planning applications the planners are looking for additional information. This is par for the course at this stage.

as muffler says, the decision could take another 4 weeks from date that the information is supplied to the planner... and then you have to wait another 4 weeks beyond that until you get your legal final grant of permission.

so im guessing a minimum of 9 weeks... plus the two for the commencement notice.. brings us up to mid May before you could conceivably start work.

Sorry lads,phone was dead.i didn't explain the situation properly in the post.the inside of the bungalow is laid out in offices so we need to gut the inside of it and put up stud partitions throughout,kitchen, bathrooms etc.thats the work we were hoping to start straight away if we get the decision to go back to residential.We're aware of the 4 weeks appeal time

My main question is what's the chances of getting a decision earlier than the 4 weeks?

sinnerboy

Sorry to be so cynical - but with the reduced volume of applications

Parkinson's law is the adage first articulated by Cyril Northcote Parkinson as the first sentence of a humorous essay published in The Economist in 1955:[1][2]
Work expands so as to fill the time available for its completion.
It was later reprinted together with other essays in the book Parkinson's Law: The Pursuit of Progress (London, John Murray, 1958). He derived the dictum from his extensive experience in the British Civil Service.
The current form of the law is not that which Parkinson refers to by that name in the article. Rather, he assigns to the term a mathematical equation describing the rate at which bureaucracies expand over time. Much of the essay is dedicated to a summary of purportedly scientific observations supporting his law, such as the increase in the number of employees at the Colonial Office while Great Britain's overseas empire declined (indeed, he shows that the Colonial Office had its greatest number of staff at the point when it was folded into the Foreign Office because of a lack of colonies to administer). He explains this growth by two forces: (1) "An official wants to multiply subordinates, not rivals" and (2) "Officials make work for each other." He notes in particular that the total of those employed inside a bureaucracy rose by 5-7% per year "irrespective of any variation in the amount of work (if any) to be done".

muffler

Coughlo wrote: »

Sorry lads,phone was dead.i didn't explain the situation properly in the post.the inside of the bungalow is laid out in offices so we need to gut the inside of it and put up stud partitions throughout,kitchen, bathrooms etc.thats the work we were hoping to start straight away if we get the decision to go back to residential.We're aware of the 4 weeks appeal time

Doesn't make any difference whether the proposal is internal or external. Once it's subject of a planning application then the same timescales apply.

Every PA is different but Id think it unlikely that you will receive a decision any quicker than 3 weeks from the date the requested information is submitted.