What reliable second hand 100 HP tractor with loader to buy

Hunt

Would be mainly used for daily farm duties and pulling a bale trailer during the summer that can take about 12 round silage bales.

We have about 17k max to spend.

My father is thinking something like a Case or New Holland.
I would sooner myself to get a clean pre 91 (no spring issue) MF 390 with the engine needing attention. When the engine is out you could do the clutch as well. I don’t know if the 390 would be able to handle the trailer work during the summer?

Any makes and models??
Any advice, opinions welcome

massey390

massey ferguson 390T 4wd , or ford 7610 3series 4wd , we have both on seperate farm and both have high hard hours done , both 95/100 hp and good make too ....7610s making 13 - 17 k and same with the massey

4odh4n

yea, or MF398, we are running one of them at the mo with a loader, have had it infront of 14 bales and had no real problems, you'll not be flat out in top on the hills mind you!

Tora Bora

Buy this and put a loader on it afterwards. It's more than 100hp, but it looks spotless, has low hours, good rubber, and it's a beast of a machine. Well able for both the trailer and loader work, and reliable to boot.:P
http://www.lestersfarmmachinery.co.uk/photo_viewer.php?ProductID=274

cartonj

An 8210 with a loader, now that would be nimble in a yard!

The Big Fella

Ive spent two summers on a ford 8210 and I think there a fantastic tracter. Loads of power for pulling 20ft bail trailer. They have a poor turning circle which will be a b##tard for loader work. Id buy one in the morning if Id money to spare.;)

massey390

8210 ? jees ya wud want an oil company wit ya at all times filling iit with diesel :P

tomaswatkins

weve a 97 Same 100.4 fine machine with loader lasted well up to 9880 hours now still never misses a beat

moe_sizlak

Hunt wrote: »

Would be mainly used for daily farm duties and pulling a bale trailer during the summer that can take about 12 round silage bales.

We have about 17k max to spend.

My father is thinking something like a Case or New Holland.
I would sooner myself to get a clean pre 91 (no spring issue) MF 390 with the engine needing attention. When the engine is out you could do the clutch as well. I don’t know if the 390 would be able to handle the trailer work during the summer?

Any makes and models??
Any advice, opinions welcome

here is my opinion

a massy 390 T is not an ideal loader tractor , its too basic in the gears department , as for a ford 7610 , that was and is regarded as having been a plain bad tractor , the one with the column gear change under the steering was especially awfull , as for a ford 8210 , thats far too big for what your looking for , they were an ok tractor but why would you buy a six cylinder 120 hp plus tractor for loader work

seventeen grand is not very much to spend when you want a loader , a good quality loader is at least five grand second hand , i mean a user friendly one , not something with a big oily chest which takes up half the cab , i mean one with a tidy joystick

here is a 1995 landini in the north , if you could get a decent second hand loader for it , you might stay within your budget

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/tractors/3160120

moe_sizlak

tomaswatkins wrote: »

weve a 97 Same 100.4 fine machine with loader lasted well up to 9880 hours now still never misses a beat

same are unpredictable at the best of times but that period in the nineties was a particulary unreliable time for them , thier comfortable to operate but troublesome

tomaswatkins

weve owned 6 Sames from the 90s over the years at silage and contracting. the only trouble weve had is a bearing went in one of the front axels from lack of grease and 2002 model the powershift is gone not bad outa all the ones weve owned

moe_sizlak

tomaswatkins wrote: »

weve owned 6 Sames from the 90s over the years at silage and contracting. the only trouble weve had is a bearing went in one of the front axels from lack of grease and 2002 model the powershift is gone not bad outa all the ones weve owned

glad to hear it , the guy who bales for my brother has always had sames , he,s always going on about how they lost thier way in the mid to late nineties , its been said that they have much improved this past eight to ten years since they merged with deutz and lamborghini and hurliman , i see plenty of people with new same,s this past five years , good reports

tomaswatkins

they were with lambourgini and hurliman threw the 90s the cabs were capitable on the 100.4 and 100.6 with hurlimans and lambourginis. The deutzs of the 90s were heaps of sh1t we had a few agrotrons and 1.60s and had nothing but brake trouble and a few which caught fire. Any tractor is a good one if looked after if they were making troublesome machines back then, then i havent had bad ones so maybe he was unlucky who knows

moe_sizlak

tomaswatkins wrote: »

they were with lambourgini and hurliman threw the 90s the cabs were capitable on the 100.4 and 100.6 with hurlimans and lambourginis. The deutzs of the 90s were heaps of sh1t we had a few agrotrons and 1.60s and had nothing but brake trouble and a few which caught fire. Any tractor is a good one if looked after if they were making troublesome machines back then, then i havent had bad ones so maybe he was unlucky who knows

tractors are not dogs , how well you mind them isnt everything , if that were the case , everyone would have zetors , we had a zetor 9540 for a few years in the nineties , the brakes were forever giving trouble , they would litterally lock and the wheels wouldnt turn , the discs would turn red with heat , the problem couldnt be cured so it was eventually sold for small money

i think same are a grand tractor to drive and they are tidy but where i live they are seen as abit like a fiat car , comfortable but unreliable , typically italian

tomaswatkins

well that may be a matter of opinnion. We have had no major trouble over the years of owning Same tractors. They have great engines, the early same air cooled and deutz turbo diesals they used in the 90s were superb as a farmer tractor they are excellent and as a contractors machine they provide everything neccesary from where i live anyway thats what they are considerd and thats my opinion

grazeaway

did you figure out what to get?

not to sure about the 7610 bashing. have you seen the prices of them?? 10-14k for a decent 4wd and that could have up to 10,000 hrs. that said i'd be partial to them have been looking to change the one at home for a newer version but dont think the value is there to pay so much for a 20 year old tractor.

we have a seris 2 with a colum change for the last 13/14 years my dad bought it straight from a dealer in of farm condition. its done fair bit of work over the years, ploughing, rovating, topping, silage , drawign beet grain and plenty of loader work and never let us down. the only problem we had was the hyralic pump needed to be changed last year but after over 25 years you'd expect that. cant see why the bad mouthing of teh colum change from people i find it great and quite easy for loader work also a hell of a lot easier when draing silage then the floor change. maybe the 1st seris version was iffy the seris 2 is good.