The supposed "good things"

Colonel Sanders

We may well have 3 odds on shots (Big Bucks, Hurricane Fly and Quevega) and if the money comes on the first day maybe 4 (Sprinter Sacre)

Who is the good thing of the good things

For me it's either Big Bucks or Quevega due to the abysmal opposition they both will face. Gun to head.........Big Bucks but ask me 10 times over the next 10 day and I'd answer both on 5 of the 10 days :rolleyes:

Colonel Sanders

The bookies must be dreading Day 1

No hotpot to lay in the supreme (yet) and there will be god only knows how many multiples on SS, HF and Que.

TheMilkyPirate

Colonel Sanders wrote: »

We may well have 3 odds on shots (Big Bucks, Hurricane Fly and Quevega) and if the money comes on the first day maybe 4 (Sprinter Sacre)

Who is the good thing of the good things

For me it's either Big Bucks or Quevega due to the abysmal opposition they both will face. Gun to head.........Big Bucks but ask me 10 times over the next 10 day and I'd answer both on 5 of the 10 days :rolleyes:

It's got to be Quevega, At least Big bucks has Oscar whisky in the line up.

Juwwi

I wonder who Paddy Powers special of maney back if a certain horse wins
will be this year.

Could well be Sprinter Sacre if a strong fav does'nt appear for the first race if they do it of course.

Tobarcormick

Quevega Faces no decent opposition. free money

hucklebuck

Oscar Whisky won't beat Big Bucks.

Minsk is looking like it could be a banker the way the money came this week and the plans for a Melbourne Cup tilt and the Irish Ledger.

I got word a while back on Midnight Game, he was very unlucky that day when he got stopped at the last hurdle by the horse in front of him. He then ran no sort of race and I get the impression he will be much better suited to quicker ground.

He won a battle against Joxer two races ago and won his last one on the bridle. He hasn't ran on Good/Soft or Good since switching to national hunt and he will have it in 20 days.

My bigger priced horse with a cracking chance is Midnight Game in Supreme Novices @ 10/1.

ft9

No one has picked Hurricane Fly yet and in the champion hurdle thread he's got 88% of the vote!

Went for Quevega myself as she has the easiest opposition

mdwexford

Yeah has to be Quevega due to lack of opposition.

There has been no signs of Big Bucks declining or anything looking up to challenging him.

Anything can happen in an Arkle and HF is up against a couple of unexposed horses.

mccarte2

Quevega obviously but anyone loading into her at current prices needs their heads examined.

hucklebuck

ft9 wrote: »

No one has picked Hurricane Fly yet and in the champion hurdle thread he's got 88% of the vote!

Imagine the moaning out of us if we were pricing up the market, we would have him around 1/7 :eek:

RichieLawlor

mccarte2 wrote: »

Quevega obviously but anyone loading into her at current prices needs their heads examined.

Right. So she's certain to win but you expect someone to give you bigger prices?

Really

premierstone

The question is superfluous as all 4 will win, along with Sizing Europe and I shall be retiring to some far off place

mccarte2

RichieLawlor wrote: »

Right. So she's certain to win but you expect someone to give you bigger prices?

Really

No, my worry would be her not turning up and piling into an Ante Post price. May not have phrased the original post all that well. I'd take a slightly shorter price on the guarantee I'll get my money back if she doesn't run. If she runs, she wins.

UrbanSea

I wouldn't worry about her not turning up, this has been the same scenario for the last three festivals inclusive of this one.

This is also the easiest field she will have faced

mdwexford

I think Mullins campaigning of Quevega over the last four years has been ridiculous unless the horse is made of glass and we havent about it.

There were plenty more race to be won with her.

Hulk Hands

mccarte2 wrote: »

Quevega obviously but anyone loading into her at current prices needs their heads examined.

Is the ickle baby afraid to back at odds on? She's a 1/3 shot that somebody will probably put up at 4/6 on the day. That's the value bet of the festival

Hulk Hands

hucklebuck wrote: »

Oscar Whisky won't beat Big Bucks.

Minsk is looking like it could be a banker the way the money came this week and the plans for a Melbourne Cup tilt and the Irish Ledger.

I got word a while back on Midnight Game, he was very unlucky that day when he got stopped at the last hurdle by the horse in front of him. He then ran no sort of race and I get the impression he will be much better suited to quicker ground.

He won a battle against Joxer two races ago and won his last one on the bridle. He hasn't ran on Good/Soft or Good since switching to national hunt and he will have it in 20 days.

My bigger priced horse with a cracking chance is Midnight Game in Supreme Novices @ 10/1.

I hope you're right as I hav him at 18's, but I heard Russell said at a preview that he not sure who he's going to ride yet. If the jockeys not even 100% confident it doesn't fill me with any

longshotvalue

I prefer Sizing Eorupe than any of the others quoted, i think he is miles clear and still great value at 11/10

premierstone

aidankkk wrote: »

I prefer Sizing Eorupe than any of the others quoted, i think he is miles clear and still great value at 11/10

I agree tbh, 11/10 is great value, he looks better or as good as ever and the opposition looks considerably weaker, the only two horses I thought would put it up to him are not running in the race!

UrbanSea

I'm not convinced about Midnight Game.Any word on Meade's horse who beat him in his maiden?

RichieLawlor

mdwexford wrote: »

I think Mullins campaigning of Quevega over the last four years has been ridiculous unless the horse is made of glass and we havent about it.

There were plenty more race to be won with her.

Agreed that he could have won more races with her.

But if I owned a horse and the trainer got her to win 4 times at Cheltenham and a few times at the Punchestown festival I wouldn't care if he used her to pull a cart for the rest of the year tbh.

longshotvalue

In Fairness Quevega is in the same yard as Hurricane Fly, and im sure he knows where she stands. She must be worth an absolute fortune as a broodmare, and they are unlikely to want to reduce that value( or the value of her stock). The only way her value could increase is if she won the Champion Hurdle..

HigginsJ

What is the opposition against Quevega like this year?

I find it very hard to back her when you dont see her for 8/9 months. I couldn't justify a big bet on her.

Is everyone hear who saying she is banker of the week going to be going in with their largest bet of the week on her or will she be part of accum's for most ppl

Johner

HigginsJ wrote: »

What is the opposition against Quevega like this year?

I find it very hard to back her when you dont see her for 8/9 months. I couldn't justify a big bet on her.

Is everyone hear who saying she is banker of the week going to be going in with their largest bet of the week on her or will she be part of accum's for most ppl

Our Girl Salley and Kentford Grey Lady. Quevega will hack up again.

HigginsJ

Johner wrote: »

Our Girl Salley and Kentford Grey Lady. Quevega will hack up again.

Yea couldnt think of who i backed last year but think i was with Our Girl Salley for a place. Might do the same again.

Johner

HigginsJ wrote: »

Yea couldnt think of who i backed last year but think i was with Our Girl Salley for a place. Might do the same again.

Our Girl Salley didn't make it last year. The only opposition to Quevega last year was Sparky May who was decent enough but no match for Quevega.

Johner

http://www.attheraces.com/article.aspx?hlid=522849&lid=&raceid=&title=Mullins+-+Quevega+in+great+form&ref=atrPA+Racing+Feed&nav=&sub=&day=Thu

Mullins - Quevega in great form

Willie Mullins has issued an upbeat bulletin about the rarely-sighted but brilliant mare Quevega.

She has won the last three renewals of the OLBG-sponsored David Nicholson Mares' Hurdle, and is an odds-on favourite to make it four next month. Apart from her first season with Mullins, Quevega has made a winning seasonal reappearance in the race, a preparation that is virtually unheard off, but seems to suit the eight-year-old well.

"She's in great form. She was in terrific form about three weeks ago and she just went out of sorts a little bit so I gave her 10 easy days," Mullins told At The Races.

"Now she's back, good and firing again. She wouldn't have run, but it meant I would have had nothing to do with her other than keep her ticking over.

"I like to get them ready, then if anything goes wrong you can give them a bit of a break, rather than build them up totally for the Festival.

"The other horses have a run and then you can build them up to the Festival. Two years ago I ran her in a schooling hurdle and she came back lame on the same leg I'd had a problem with the previous year, and it gave me such a fright I said I wouldn't run her again until the Festival.

"It seems to work and she takes her training well that way. I'm very pleased with her.

"Her breeder told me her mother was never any good until she was eight or nine so that bodes well. I can't disagree with him, she's certainly as good as she was."

mccarte2

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Is the ickle baby afraid to back at odds on? She's a 1/3 shot that somebody will probably put up at 4/6 on the day. That's the value bet of the festival

:rolleyes:

Tis a big man who can hide behind his keyboard and throw things like that out.

If you could bother to read you would have seen the second post I put up on the matter. Still, don't let that get in the way of you acting the hard man.

convert

Ok, let's be nice, folks!

premierstone

convert wrote: »

Ok, let's be nice, folks!

Pre-festival tension is all convert, will all blow over!

convert

premierstone wrote: »

Pre-festival tension is all convert, will all blow over!

I know all about pre-race nerves... But people should still be nice!

Oscars Well.

Quevega is in a different league to any of her rivals

hucklebuck

Ah relax Convert, you will have nobody to mod in 19 days we will be locked on our winnings each day as the jollies go thumping in.

What too far :P

Hulk Hands

mccarte2 wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Tis a big man who can hide behind his keyboard and throw things like that out.

If you could bother to read you would have seen the second post I put up on the matter. Still, don't let that get in the way of you acting the hard man.

Jese calm down. It was one little throwaway comment, not meant to be taken seriously. Apologies if I offended..

mccarte2

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Jese calm down. It was one little throwaway comment, not meant to be taken seriously. Apologies if I offended..

I must've been over-reacting to the news of Elliotts mess up with Backstage - was on him at 12's. Bet refunded but was still pissed off over it. Alls well that ends well!

the groutch

banker of the week for me is Scotsirish

UrbanSea

I thought the same groutch, but the ride Patrick Mullins gave him the last time seriously concerned me (at Punchestown). He nearly got the horse beat

shy-tall-knight

the groutch wrote: »

banker of the week for me is Scotsirish

Was just about to say as much, according to Ruby he's the bet of the festival.

mccarte2

UrbanSea wrote: »

I thought the same groutch, but the ride Patrick Mullins gave him the last time seriously concerned me (at Punchestown). He nearly got the horse beat

Interesting fact! Young Paddy never got a chance to walk the Cross Country course in Cheltenham before the November meeting as he arrived late. He hadn't a clue what way the course went. He was explaining this to a few of us on the Friday night in Cheltenham over a beer or two (I don't know the man but some in our company did) and he said he just followed Nina around for as long as he could until he knew he was in the final few furlongs! Couldn't believe it until I watched the race back. (He was riding Uncle Junior in that race)

The horse is a class above everything else in the race and once Paddy doesn't give him too much to do at the finish then he should be ok.

UrbanSea

I wouldn't trust him on a horse unfortunately. Though I went in heavy on him last time at Punchestown odds on, he had me sweating when he nearly came off at the last.


Backstage may well run in it. He might be a problem, but wouldn't have the gears of Scotsirish

mccarte2

UrbanSea wrote: »

I wouldn't trust him on a horse unfortunately. Though I went in heavy on him last time at Punchestown odds on, he had me sweating when he nearly came off at the last.


Backstage may well run in it. He might be a problem, but wouldn't have the gears of Scotsirish

Backstages best chance would have been the Foxhunters. Wouldn't have the class or background over these kind of jumps. Rare enough you'd have a horse winning a Cross Country race at the festival that hadn't run in that type of race previously.

mdwexford

mccarte2 wrote: »

Think he's talking about the Cross Country race rather than the Foxhunters.

Damn my ninja delete was too slow, only realised after I had posted.

mccarte2

mdwexford wrote: »

Damn my ninja delete was too slow, only realised after I had posted.

I've deleted mine to help out a fellow wexford man :cool:

TheMilkyPirate

shy-tall-knight wrote: »

Was just about to say as much, according to Ruby he's the bet of the festival.

I thought Ruby put up Boston bob as his best bet?

mccarte2 wrote: »

I've deleted mine to help out a fellow wexford man :cool:

Nice to see a few Wexford people here.

shy-tall-knight

baraca wrote: »

I thought Ruby put up Boston bob as his best bet?



Nice to see a few Wexford people here.

I believe Ruby put up Boston Bob as the best bet of any horse he's riding factoring in price etc but I definitely read somewhere a week or so a go that he said that Scotsirish is the overall best bet of the festival.

RichieLawlor

mccarte2 wrote: »

I've deleted mine to help out a fellow wexford man :cool:

Don't let the name fool you. He's a Dublin jackeen

hucklebuck

baraca wrote: »

Nice to see a few Wexford people here.

A few? Seems like everyone from Wexford is....

Colonel Sanders

hucklebuck wrote: »

baraca wrote: »

Nice to see a few Wexford people here.

A few? Seems like everyone from Wexford is....

Here was me thinking I was the only one :-)