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Do companies send out PFO letters/emails anymore?

  • 22-02-2012 5:42pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,006 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi guys,

    I remember a few years back hearing people complaining about getting PFO letters (please feck off) or in other words, rejection letters when applying for jobs.

    Just wondering do employers send out these anymore?

    Or do they only contact you if you were succesful?

    Thanks!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Hi guys,

    I remember a few years back hearing people complaining about getting PFO letters (please feck off) or in other words, rejection letters when applying for jobs.

    Just wondering do employers send out these anymore?

    Or do they only contact you if you were succesful?

    Thanks!

    There's always a 50/50 chance of them sending one out. I wouldn't get my hopes up and if you do hear back your very lucky.

    On another note I think it's quite rude not too, it's easily done. Copy and paste job and even though its a rejection letter it keeps the spirits up that one time it will stick!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,006 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    I completely agree with you - it is rude.

    Especialy nowadays when most people use email, they could easily compile a list of all those who didn't get the job and send them a generic ''sorry you weren't chosen email.''

    I think not hearing back from a company at all is far worse than getting a rejection letter. At least that way you know where you stand!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭Postgrad10


    It is extremely rude. I've applied for many many jobs in various areas over the past year. I've had two letters to say thanks but no thanks and one email rejection, oh and one text message rejection. Was happy with that as at least they had the manners to get back to me :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,302 ✭✭✭JohnMearsheimer


    A PFO is the very least they owe you, especially if you put time and effort into your application. By that I mean taking time to tailor your CV to the job applied for, took time to write a job specific cover letter etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭Delancey


    PFO's appear to be a rarity these days ( very rude ) , when they do come they tend to be weeks or months after the interview :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    Nowadays, if I get a PFO I consider it a result! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    I still get rejection emails, I might not it from every company I apply for. Some are successful ones other are companies that couldn't be bothered to get back to me so its their way of rejection without a rejection email.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭thesimpsons


    for the amount of letters of application that many companies get these days, it can be almost impossible to keep up to speed with their volume. in November 2011, we got over 200 unsolicited general letters of application and lost track of the number of applications for an advertised temporary job. Sorry, but we couldn't possibly answer them all back and I'd guess many other companies couldn't afford the time involved either. Unfortunately thats the current situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭pauline fayne


    I recently applied for a job advertised through a recruitment agency . They were accepting c.v. 's by e mail and I haven't received a reply . I am well aware that they would have received hundreds of applications for the job(s), but i think the least they could do is send a standard e-mail acknowledgement that your application has been received . I think it reflects badly on a recruitment agency that they are not professional enough to reply but my adult children think I am' out of touch '. They may be right !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    You're not out of touch, it's basic manners that are unfortunately uncommon.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,096 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I agree about replies to job applications, there should be a response, but for unsolicited applications it would not be practical. Even to send an email would involve someone going through the application, finding and copying the address and putting in a message, which doesn't sound much till you multiply it up.

    I would say that unsolicited applications are a complete waste of time. If there is a job there will be a system set up to deal with applications, but for most firms they are not going to have someone employed just to process unsolicited applications. And they are not usually going to go back through files if a job does come up, they will just advertise and take the application from the results.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Irish_Elect_Eng


    As I see it this should be the practice:
    • Unsolicited applications should never expect a response.
    • Solicited applications for low paid jobs should never expect a response.
    • Solicited applications for any job that where the applicant does not meet the minimum requirements should never expect a response.
    • Any candidates contacted / phone Interviewed by the employer/recruited deserves some response
    • Any candidates interviewed in person by the employer/recruited deserves a written response with some feedback.
    • Any candidates short-listed / second interviewed by the employer/recruited deserves a written response with detailed feedback.

    But it is a employer's market, as it always has been and will be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭MysticalRain


    I only expect employers to send a PFO if the specifically request me to waste my time writing a cover letter or a blurb outlining why I should be suitable for the job. After all, if an employer expects me to spend a significant amount of time on the application, then a PFO is just common courtesy. I've also had the misfortune not to receive a PFO after I have done interviews with some employers, which I regard as really bad form.

    In some ways not receiving a PFO is a good thing as it can be a red flag indicating that the company is unprofessional and disorganized, and consequently would not be a good place to work for anyway.

    Of course it won't be an employers market forever. Remember what's happening to Irish retailers now, and the backlash they are suffering for their sins during the boom times. The average Irish person may not forget all that bad behavior when this is over.


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