Future strategy of IR - Tralee line

ongarboy

I noticed this article on RadioKerry's news site. Does anyone know if the full study is available somewhere? I've been a user of this line for 15 years and the journey time reductions were promised for 2000 and have remained at 4 hours + to Tralee so am a bit cynical tbh. I wonder how upgrading Mallow station would allow savings of 30 minutes. Surely faster speeds is the only way? Hasn't all the signalling upgrade of the line been done as part of past NDPs?
Report recommends cutting train journey between Tralee and Dublin by 30 minutes

A new report is recommending cutting the train travel times between Tralee and Dublin by a half an hour. The recommendation is contained in a study commissioned by Iarnrod Eireann into the future strategy for the national rail network. It shows the Tralee routes generate quite strong levels of demand in comparison to its population and this is due to high volumes of tourists. The longer travel times by road from the capital to Killarney and Tralee means customer support is resilient despite the change over at Mallow. The report recommends a relatively modest investment to upgrade Mallow station which would help cut the journey time between Tralee and Dublin by 30 minutes.

link: http://radiokerry.ie/news/

corktina

surely a C&T issue...could a Mod move please?

(until this forum has a better title this will keep happening.This Forum is for enthusiast and heritage purposes unless Im mistaken

ongarboy

apologies - should have read the charter - mods please move if appropriate.

dowlingm

I guess there are some similar issues to the other single track lines - delays due to trains meeting at passing loops? Some delays getting a go for the Kerry line at Mallow, plus the line takes a roundabout approach to Killarney (diverges from the N72 and curves around to come in the same direction as N20). Given the local terrain and the zero chance of employing something like Pendolino I can't see much more than handfuls of minutes being achievable.

LXFlyer

The 30 minute savings would principally be between Dublin and Mallow.

corktina

ongarboy wrote: »

apologies - should have read the charter - mods please move if appropriate.

sorry should have made it clear, not your fault Bud...

dowlingm

thread merge with the C&T one on this subject?
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056556523

CaptainSkidmark

Is it not a rail system?

Maybe they mean more Direct Tralee - Dublin trains rather than stopping off and changing over in Mallow and making sure the Mallow-Tralee train is already in Rathmore rather than waiting for it to arrive so it can continue?

dowlingm

the only suggested improvement to the Tralee line in the report is a vague upgrade to Mallow which will improve the customer experience. They say the line's topography means a speed increase for the line itself is not feasible.

corktina

CaptainSkidmark wrote: »

Is it not a rail system?

Maybe they mean more Direct Tralee - Dublin trains rather than stopping off and changing over in Mallow and making sure the Mallow-Tralee train is already in Rathmore rather than waiting for it to arrive so it can continue?

This si what the Charter says.

"This is a place for discuss rail fan / heritage types topics.

This is also a place to discuss rail industry matters that are non-consumer, non-(hard)infrastructure type topics, e.g. "Trailing or facing points" "Which signalling system is best? and "How should stopping and express services be interspersed?"

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should be renamed "railfan forum" imho

roundymac

Maybe we should get a moan and groan forum started. Then you can moan away to your hearts content Corktina.

corktina

thanks for that.

starhillroad

Maybe there should be more consideration given to running the 22000 units in a 'batched' formation, 3 times daily, in conjunction with the existing Dublin-Cork locomotive hauled service.

Example: 9 coaches

Dublin-Limerick Junction (3 coaches split off and head to Limerick and Ennis, 3 coaches split off and head to Clonmel and Waterford)
Mallow, remaining 3 coaches split off and head to Killarney and Tralee.

The faster service might increase revenue, and maybe justify charging a higher fare, although that might confuse the recently simplified ticketing system.

Our man in Havana

Splitting trains in LJ like that is not feasible due to the track layout.