fault finding Boilers

martineire

Hi guys im a plumber and RGI who is currently working part time doing a bit of oil/gas boiler servicing as i have completed all the relevent courses in this area such as GID and the Domestic servicing course, i still want to brush up on my fault finding and understanding of the Electronic side of oil and gas boilers, i was thinking of doing a fas course in Electrical/Electronic control systems in automated industrial equipment (Fault finding ect). Would such a course brothen my knowledge in fault finding boilers and understanding the electronic side to them ect. or am i barking up the wrong tree here? Or any advice were to go from here. Thanks a mill for reading:)

Billy Bunting

I believe Chevron are pushing an "Advanced" Oil Burner fault finding course at the moment, can't vouch for whats in it.

shane0007

Metac in Mountrath, Co. Laois, 057 8756540, do decent courses, both in oil and gas. IMO, the are better set up for practical training and the guys there are very well experienced.

Fault finding is like learning a new language, you can do all you can to learn it before you need it, end up with phrases you'll never use and possibly confuse you or the longer route where you immerse yourself in it, make a few mistakes(best way to learn;)) phone a friend, ask on boards, ring the manufacture etc..... Doing it this way is painful but you do get a better feel for it. You will get there either way as long as you stay switched on, keep getting answers to things that come up day to day, the problem with some RGIs is they think they are fluent just cos they can order una bottle de CARLESBERG and una PACKET OF TAYTO por fa vor:D

shane0007

mi buen amigo Gary, no sabía que su español era tan bueno, lol

DGOBS

Hopefully your domestic servicing course has given you the background knowledge that enables you to begin to get stuck into faulty gas boilers, and as Gary suggested, talk with manufacturers (do any 1 day courses they offer) but practical hands on, pulling your hair out problems you encounter really are how you learn, phoning friends, manufacturers etc. to help you out when stuck

It's more than learning a new language, because you never really finish learning, as machines evolve and change, and new and wonderful issues arise from them.

DGOBS

DGOBS wrote: »

It's more than learning a new language, because you never really finish learning, as machines evolve and change, and new and wonderful issues arise from them.

oi, feck off, don't go ruining a perfectly good enallage.

DGOBS

Abusive, abusive, told me to feck off, moderator, moderator, spank Gary!

Micky Dolenz

Can I just hijack this for a minute please.

anyone have any experience on Radiant gas boilers?

DGOBS

As in a Radiant Sirrus.........RUN QUICK AS YOU CAN.......Don't even look for the callout charge!!!

Which one and what's happening?

Micky Dolenz

DGOBS wrote: »

As in a Radiant Sirrus.........RUN QUICK AS YOU CAN.......Don't even look for the callout charge!!!

Which one and what's happening?

Too late for running sadly.

It is a RS 20 e/midy.

PRV was shot, hard to get one but I got one. Fitted that and recharged expansion vessel but off course this has been compromised too. Will need to be changed.

Keeps giving a low pressure fault code and refuses to fire. Boasted pressure, now I realise with a faulty vessel it wasn't a good idea to run it for long but I expected it to fire at least.

Did all the normal checks, no power to pump. After a bit of checking it fired, with and without the room stat link removed. I would have expected it to not fire if link was removed as there would be no call for heat.

So it basically would fire and then lock out, giving a low pressure fault code. I am only guessing on the fault code as of course I don't have a book for it.

DGOBS

Is the the mini-code pcb version? as there is different RS20 manuals available, a pic of the front fasia would let me know, sure I have a manual for most of them here that I can mail to you

Have you checked continuity on the wps?

Micky Dolenz

DGOBS wrote: »

Is the the mini-code pcb version? as there is different RS20 manuals available, a pic of the front fasia would let me know, sure I have a manual for most of them here that I can mail to you

Cool, if you PM me your email address I can send you a pic of the data badge.

JohnnieK

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Too late for running sadly.

It is a RS 20 e/midy.

PRV was shot, hard to get one but I got one. Fitted that and recharged expansion vessel but off course this has been compromised too. Will need to be changed.

Keeps giving a low pressure fault code and refuses to fire. Boasted pressure, now I realise with a faulty vessel it wasn't a good idea to run it for long but I expected it to fire at least.

Did all the normal checks, no power to pump. After a bit of checking it fired, with and without the room stat link removed. I would have expected it to not fire if link was removed as there would be no call for heat.

So it basically would fire and then lock out, giving a low pressure fault code. I am only guessing on the fault code as of course I don't have a book for it.

Micky.
If you look at the top of the boiler there are two clips that the boiler hangs on.
Lift the boiler off these clips and F**K in the skip problem solved:D:D:D:D

Micky Dolenz

JohnnieK wrote: »

Micky.
If you look at the top of the boiler there are two clips that the boiler hangs on.
Lift the boiler off these clips and F**K in the skip problem solved:D:D:D:D

:P

I suggested that.

martineire

Yea ye are right i think theses courses give you a good foundation to get yourself out there and start fixing boilers but that is when the real learning starts, its all bout learning from experence, but i was just thinking that course could also be good, learning about testing components and fault finding ect.