Motorcycling Stuff in Aldi - Thursday, 1st March

rgfuller

Biking gear is back in Aldi from Thursday 1st March. Not linked on the website yet but should be shortly.

Compression gear.
Socks.
Boots.
Helmet.
Gloves.
Lock.
Tool Kit.
Paddock Stand.
Cover.
Neck Warmer.
Balaclava.

pa990

you can never go wrong with socks, compression wear and neck warmers.

Doylers

Excellent i just got my bike and need gear, think i'll bypass the helmet from aldi

unclebill98

pa990 wrote: »

you can never go wrong with socks, compression wear and neck warmers.

Yep. Stock up every time.

positron

No tank/tail bags this time?

Please Kill Me

positron wrote: »

No tank/tail bags this time?

Maybe in April when they do it again. Their helmets are rubbish, but their tank bags are great value!

spankmaster2000

Are their helmets really rubbish?

I was just reading this:

http://www.visordown.com/product-news/a-40-helmet-from-lidl/20133.html

... and wondering if anyone here had actually bought and used one.

Please Kill Me

spankmaster2000 wrote: »

Are their helmets really rubbish?

I was just reading this:

http://www.visordown.com/product-news/a-40-helmet-from-lidl/20133.html

... and wondering if anyone here had actually bought and used one.

Apparently, it passes the regulations and tests and has the stamps/stickers to confirm this, but personally - I wouldn't trust it. If you were REALLY short a few quid, you could get one as a temporary fix, but I'd be mindful that it's only this between your head and the road. Using their gloves and boots is fine, but a helmet?? I don't know man. I won't be using one thanks very much.

spankmaster2000

No, no - I actually agree with you dude. I'd be sceptical that my precious brains would be safe inside a 40 Euro bucket, no matter how many safety stickers are on it.

I'd love a Schuberth SR1, as my current lid is battered/scratched/old/smelly and I need a replacement, but, as you said youself, the Aldi one might do as a temporary fix... I was just curious if anyone had tried any "real world" tests on it (experience wearing it I mean.)

Please Kill Me

spankmaster2000 wrote: »

I'd love a Schuberth SR1, as my current lid is battered/scratched/old/smelly and I need a replacement, but, as you said youself, the Aldi one might do as a temporary fix... I was just curious if anyone had tried any "real world" tests on it (experience wearing it I mean.)

The Schubert is a good lid. Just save like mad and get one of those instead.

Notch000

are the gloves & boots waterproof ?

Please Kill Me

Notch000 wrote: »

are the gloves & boots waterproof ?

Yeah, they're not bad at all! Obviously not as good as Rukka or other Gore-Tex products, but they'll certainly do the job for ya.

BlackWizard

I have a Lidl lid. Used it for a few months. Never had any issues with it and feels very solid.

I think why they are so cheap is because of the Lidl way of doing business and the helmets are not as advanced as others out there. They are a little heavier, bulkier and not as aerodynamic.

I'd have no safety concerns with them.

The visor does fog up after a while though. But I've had this will all visors. I use a pinlock now.

gipi

One of the reasons that a Lidl/Aldi lid couldn't be trusted is how they're treated by customers in the shops.

I saw a kid bounce one off the floor several times before his parent took it off him, put it back in the box and closed it up.....don't think I'd like that on my head if it were needed!!

(yeah, I know, we may not know how lids are treated elsewhere, but I don't think that regular bike shops let 5 yr olds play with them!!)

Please Kill Me

gipi wrote: »

One of the reasons that a Lidl/Aldi lid couldn't be trusted is how they're treated by customers in the shops.

I saw a kid bounce one off the floor several times before his parent took it off him, put it back in the box and closed it up.....don't think I'd like that on my head if it were needed!!

(yeah, I know, we may not know how lids are treated elsewhere, but I don't think that regular bike shops let 5 yr olds play with them!!)

Very good point! You can bet that RPM or Dog's Box or Bikeworld wouldn't let kids NEAR their lids!

arybvtcw0eolkf

I've an Aldi lid from about 2001 or 2002, can't be sure which.

Open face, and its grand. Lighter and much more comfy than the Arai I'm issued with.

I'd have absolutely no problem buying another.

RosieJoe

Leonel Damaged Puffball wrote: »

I've an Aldi lid from about 2001 or 2002, can't be sure which.

Open face, and its grand. Lighter and much more comfy than the Arai I'm issued with.

I'd have absolutely no problem buying another.

Please tell me you're not a guard :eek:! The thought of being stopped by you would have me confessing to kidnapping Shergar

Del2005

gipi wrote: »

One of the reasons that a Lidl/Aldi lid couldn't be trusted is how they're treated by customers in the shops.

I saw a kid bounce one off the floor several times before his parent took it off him, put it back in the box and closed it up.....don't think I'd like that on my head if it were needed!!

(yeah, I know, we may not know how lids are treated elsewhere, but I don't think that regular bike shops let 5 yr olds play with them!!)

+1

If you can be first into the shop at opening time then I'd trust one. But once other customers have entered I wouldn't trust them.

I've never needed a lid from Lidl or Aldi so never asked, does anyone know if the staff are trained on handling lids? It's not like most of their other stock that can take a bit of rough handling, do they carefully load them into the cages?

arybvtcw0eolkf

Del2005 wrote: »

I've never needed a lid from Lidl or Aldi so never asked, does anyone know if the staff are trained on handling lids? It's not like most of their other stock that can take a bit of rough handling, do they carefully load them into the cages?

Are you serious?...

Thats one quango FF/Greens overlooked - a regulator to issues licences out to handle, load & unload motorcycle helmets.

Honestly, motorcycle helmets aren't that delicate.

Please Kill Me

Leonel Damaged Puffball wrote: »

Honestly, motorcycle helmets aren't that delicate.

It's not about them being delicate mate, but they're designed to take one impact. Apparently, even if you drop your own lid (off your seat or handlebars for example) and it bounces off the ground, you're supposed to bin your helmet and get a new one as it's possible that the helmet is damaged internally.

positron

I agree what 'Please Kill Me' above said seems to be the agreed version of it, but I always wondered what happens if a crash involves more than one impact to head. So, yeah, no, they can't or shouldn't be that delicate, right?

P.C.

So, what happens when you buy a lid online, and it is posted to you?

Are all the postmen trained on how to handel the lid? Do they even know they are delivering a lid? Or do they just throw it around, and drop it like all the other post?

Please Kill Me

P.C. wrote: »

So, what happens when you buy a lid online, and it is posted to you?

Are all the postmen trained on how to handel the lid? Do they even know they are delivering a lid? Or do they just throw it around, and drop it like all the other post?

I don't (and never will) buy a lid online, for that very reason. A trip to Cotters, or RPM, or Crossans is much more fun.

spiggotpaddy

Please Kill Me wrote: »

It's not about them being delicate mate, but they're designed to take one impact. Apparently, even if you drop your own lid (off your seat or handlebars for example) and it bounces off the ground, you're supposed to bin your helmet and get a new one as it's possible that the helmet is damaged internally.

Maybe you should change your username to "please wrap me in cotton wool"
But seriously though the dropping off the seat example applies to a thousand euro top of the range ARAI as well as a forty five euro cheapy.
I cant remember ever reading any statistics stating a rider would have had a lesser injury in an accident if they had been wearing a better quality helmet, other than those wearing open faced helmets.

Please Kill Me

spiggotpaddy wrote: »

Maybe you should change your username to "please wrap me in cotton wool"

Why?????

rgfuller

Looks like they moved the offers to Thursday 1st Match - details online now:
http://www.aldi.ie/ie/html/offers/offers_week09Thursday12.htm?WT.z_src=main

Can a mod edit the thread title to reflect the correct day ?

Del2005

Leonel Damaged Puffball wrote: »

Are you serious?...

Thats one quango FF/Greens overlooked - a regulator to issues licences out to handle, load & unload motorcycle helmets.

Honestly, motorcycle helmets aren't that delicate.

Motorcycle helmets aren't that delicate, but my head is. Have you ever seen the way stock is handled in shops?

There's no need for a quango, but we've all seen the customers in Lidl/Aldi bouncing the helmets off the ground and they are all just placed back in the bin for some sucker to purchase.

P.C. wrote: »

So, what happens when you buy a lid online, and it is posted to you?

Are all the postmen trained on how to handel the lid? Do they even know they are delivering a lid? Or do they just throw it around, and drop it like all the other post?

That's a risk you take when buying cheap. It may save you a few Euro when buying, only thing is you may never know how much it'll cost you in the end.

Could be the same in a bike shop. But at least when a lid is being shipped from the manufacture/whole seller to the shop they are using trained couriers, which is a requirement for quality certs. And the sales people in the shop know not to drop them.

P.C.

rgfuller wrote: »

Looks like they moved the offers to Thursday 1st Match - details online now:
http://www.aldi.ie/ie/html/offers/offers_week09Thursday12.htm?WT.z_src=main

Can a mod edit the thread title to reflect the correct day ?

Done.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Del2005 wrote: »

Motorcycle helmets aren't that delicate, but my head is. Have you ever seen the way stock is handled in shops?

There's no need for a quango, but we've all seen the customers in Lidl/Aldi bouncing the helmets off the ground and they are all just placed back in the bin for some sucker to purchase.

We all have?.

Del2005 wrote: »

That's a risk you take when buying cheap. It may save you a few Euro when buying, only thing is you may never know how much it'll cost you in the end.

And the risk is that it might have been dropped?.. You think if someone in a reputable motorcycle shop dropped a helmet that it wouldn't be put back on the shelves?.. Unless its chipped you can bet your life they'd put it back out.

Del2005 wrote: »

But at least when a lid is being shipped from the manufacture/whole seller to the shop they are using trained couriers, which is a requirement for quality certs. And the sales people in the shop know not to drop them.

Your making this up as you go along, do you really think couriers give a toss?.

I'm not being argumentative for the craic of it, but you really haven't been around that long if thats what you believe.

Don't let good marketing make up feel you've to part with your hard earned money for the most expensive lid, same goes for leathers and other gear - how many rider's do you see with knee sliders which will never slide or aero-humps on the backs of jackets. Or Rossi replicate gloves & boots etc.

Anyway, looked at the link. I was looking for a new open face for the summer, so the one on offer won't suit me anyway thanks for the heads up OP.

dre_jspeed

Did aldi change the date for these to go on sale was up in my local store and there was no motorbike gear to be seen.

rgfuller

It should be there, I'm just back from an Aldi with the motorcycle tool kit and was very tempted by the axle stand (a bit bulky in the box).

RosieJoe

Had a nose in the one in Sandyford and there was stuff there, not much mind you.

Doylers

Picked up some gear in Waterford today aswell

BlackWizard

RosieJoe wrote: »

Had a nose in the one in Sandyford and there was stuff there, not much mind you.

I was there at lunch. Most of the stuff was gone. A guy in the car park told me to hurry up because lads were coming out with trolleys full of bike gear. I must have looked like a man with an obvious mission heading in!

echomadman

Please Kill Me wrote: »

It's not about them being delicate mate, but they're designed to take one impact. Apparently, even if you drop your own lid (off your seat or handlebars for example) and it bounces off the ground, you're supposed to bin your helmet and get a new one as it's possible that the helmet is damaged internally.

Thats nonsense, they're designed to take an impact with a head in them, dropping them off your bike seat doesnt mean you have to throw them away. the outer shell is tough enough to handle it.

For Paws

Leonel Damaged Puffball wrote: »

I've an Aldi lid from about 2001 or 2002, can't be sure which.

Open face, and its grand. Lighter and much more comfy than the Arai I'm issued with.

I'd have absolutely no problem buying another.

Motorcycle Helmets made from Fibreglass have a 'life' of about 8 years max.
depending on usage. If you regularly use a helmet (daily) then after a max. of 8 years the Fibreglass may have been degraded by Ultra Violet (Sunshine) light to a point when it's performance characteristics will have altered.
Check for fading of original colour or cracking in the finish, particularly around air vents. If you see this, change your lid.

Most manufacturers supply a Helmet Bag with the Helmet. To maximise it's useful life, and maintain the look of an expensive lid, always bag your lid.
(NB; Do not bag your lid when riding)

And remember .....

You wear it every time you ride

BUT YOU'LL ONLY NEED IT ONCE

For Paws

echomadman wrote: »

Thats nonsense, they're designed to take an impact with a head in them, dropping them off your bike seat doesnt mean you have to throw them away. the outer shell is tough enough to handle it.

Four basic components work together to provide protection in
the motorcycle helmet: an outer shell; an impact-absorbing liner;
the comfort padding; and a good retention system.
What we see first is the outer shell, usually made from some family
of fiber-reinforced composites or thermoplastics like polycarbonate.
This is tough stuff, yet it's designed and intended to compress when
it hits anything hard.That action disperses energy from the impact to
lessen the force before it reaches your head, but it doesn't act alone
to protect you.
Inside the shell is the equally important impact-absorbing liner,
usually made of expanded polystyrene (commonly thought of as
Styrofoam). This dense layer cushions and absorbs the shock as the
helmet stops and your head wants to keep on moving.
Both the shell and the liner compress if hit hard, spreading the forces
of impact throughout the helmet material. The more impact-energy
deflected or absorbed, the less there is of it to reach your head and
do damage. Some helmet shells delaminate on impact. Others may
crack and break if forced to take a severe hit; this is one way a helmet
acts to absorb shock. It is doing its intended job. Impact damage
from a crash to the non-resilient liner may be invisible to the eye; it
may look great, but it probably has little protective value left and
should be replaced.

arybvtcw0eolkf

echomadman wrote: »

Thats nonsense, they're designed to take an impact with a head in them, dropping them off your bike seat doesnt mean you have to throw them away. the outer shell is tough enough to handle it.

Yup, if I was to replace every helmet I've accidently dropped I'd have died from starvation years ago.

For Paws

'The outer shell is tough enough to handle it'

Inside the shell is the equally important impact-absorbing liner,
usually made of expanded polystyrene (commonly thought of as
Styrofoam). This dense layer cushions and absorbs the shock as the
helmet stops and your head wants to keep on moving.
Both the shell and the liner compress if hit hard, spreading the forces
of impact throughout the helmet material. The more impact-energy
deflected or absorbed, the less there is of it to reach your head and
do damage.

The only way you will ever know whether your lid is 100% after dropping it is
(a) checking the outer shell for scratching and shaking it to see if it rattles
(b) Waking up in A/E and thinking / talking / moving post accident
(c) Not waking up post accident

It's not your head you're protecting, it's your brain.

Please Kill Me

Leonel Damaged Puffball wrote: »

Yup, if I was to replace every helmet I've accidently dropped I'd have died from starvation years ago.

PMSL! Likewise.

ogriofa

For Paws wrote: »

Four basic components work together to provide protection in
the motorcycle helmet: an outer shell; an impact-absorbing liner;
the comfort padding; and a good retention system.
What we see first is the outer shell, usually made from some family
of fiber-reinforced composites or thermoplastics like polycarbonate.
This is tough stuff, yet it's designed and intended to compress when
it hits anything hard.That action disperses energy from the impact to
lessen the force before it reaches your head, but it doesn't act alone
to protect you.
Inside the shell is the equally important impact-absorbing liner,
usually made of expanded polystyrene (commonly thought of as
Styrofoam). This dense layer cushions and absorbs the shock as the
helmet stops and your head wants to keep on moving.
Both the shell and the liner compress if hit hard, spreading the forces
of impact throughout the helmet material. The more impact-energy
deflected or absorbed, the less there is of it to reach your head and
do damage. Some helmet shells delaminate on impact. Others may
crack and break if forced to take a severe hit; this is one way a helmet
acts to absorb shock. It is doing its intended job. Impact damage
from a crash to the non-resilient liner may be invisible to the eye; it
may look great, but it probably has little protective value left and
should be replaced.

Sorry, but I hate this stuff. Sales people write this stuff (maybe from their www, maybe through a reviewer) and people take it on as gospel. This is a sales pitch, of course it is. Cause this way we buy more helmets.
If I paid E400 for helmet that became useless after a little drop, I wouldn't want to be wearing it in an accident.

arybvtcw0eolkf

ogriofa wrote: »

Sorry, but I hate this stuff. Sales people write this stuff (maybe from their www, maybe through a reviewer) and people take it on as gospel. This is a sales pitch, of course it is. Cause this way we buy more helmets.
If I paid E400 for helmet that became useless after a little drop, I wouldn't want to be wearing it in an accident.

He cut and pasted the info from HERE (its a PDF doc) and chose not to provide a link.

art

This "ha ha Aldi helmet" thing comes up over and over and over, doesn't it? Fair bit of snobbishness goes on, even to the extent of sneering at safety stickers as though they are meaningless in themselves - it's the fancy paintwork that really protects you afterall!!

I remember reading - though can't remember where now - how cheaper helmets are often far better protection in real world situations precisely because they can stand multiple impacts whereas high end helmets were designed with the idea of protection against very high speed, catastrophic impacts - after the rider hit the ground once, the second impact can do serious damage. Definitely would be very wary myself of buying a lid in Lidl, or Aldi, that had been sitting about a while but this idea of "most of us have seen helmets being bounced on the ground" is just farcical (presumably, the electric pancake makers, kettles, and what not, are also being bounced too while all the staff stand by enjoying the spectacle?).

arybvtcw0eolkf

art wrote: »

this idea of "most of us have seen helmets being bounced on the ground" is just farcical (presumably, the electric pancake makers, kettles, and what not, are also being bounced too while all the staff stand by enjoying the spectacle?).

Thats a very good point.

Zascar

I got a few bits last week, the neck warmer and the pants for underneath. Will come in handy. I would have got a helmet tot have as a spare but they did not have small size. I want to bring my girlfriend out on my bike - I already have a ladies leather jacket for her but I do not have a help met yet. Yes I know you should not buy cheap helps etc etc - but there's no way I'm spending €200 when she might only come on the bike with me once and then never again. Any other idea where I can get a really cheap one?

arybvtcw0eolkf

Zascar wrote: »

I got a few bits last week, the neck warmer and the pants for underneath. Will come in handy. I would have got a helmet tot have as a spare but they did not have small size. I want to bring my girlfriend out on my bike - I already have a ladies leather jacket for her but I do not have a help met yet. Yes I know you should not buy cheap helps etc etc - but there's no way I'm spending €200 when she might only come on the bike with me once and then never again. Any other idea where I can get a really cheap one?

Scooter Island on Usher Quay has some nice open face helmets for less than €100.

I seen some really nice small helmets over in Bikeworld during the week too.

Please Kill Me

Leonel Damaged Puffball wrote: »

Scooter Island on Usher Quay has some nice open face helmets for less than €100.

I seen some really nice small helmets over in Bikeworld during the week too.

Yeh, but he said "where can I get a cheap one?" :pac:

Cotters do good deals in helmets, as do RPM in Drogheda. Up to recently he was clearing out last year's stock for f**k all to make room for 2012 stock.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Please Kill Me wrote: »

Yeh, but he said "where can I get a cheap one?" :pac:

Cotters do good deals in helmets, as do RPM in Drogheda. Up to recently he was clearing out last year's stock for f**k all to make room for 2012 stock.

The lad said he was looking for a S size, they're usually cheaper as not as many sell.. Tbh, I found Cotter's useless but I was looking for a specific open face and in Bikeworld I was spoilt for choice.

Cheapest for what I wanted believe it or not was Bikeworld or Scooter Island on the quays.

Bikeworld - always try negotiate a lower price, they need the sales

AgileMyth

Leonel Damaged Puffball wrote: »

The lad said he was looking for a S size, they're usually cheaper as not as many sell.. Tbh, I found Cotter's useless but I was looking for a specific open face and in Bikeworld I was spoilt for choice.

Cheapest for what I wanted believe it or not was Bikeworld or Scooter Island on the quays.

Bikeworld - always try negotiate a lower price, they need the sales

If they had their prices lower in the first place they'd get the sales.

Please Kill Me

AgileMyth wrote: »

If they had their prices lower in the first place they'd get the sales.

There ya go!!