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yoga for golf

  • 20-02-2012 12:47pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 579 ✭✭✭


    has anyone tried this and is it that beneficial......a lot of pros swear by it but for a mid handicapper?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭thegen


    Have not tried it but know a few lads that say its great. Try www.yogaforgolf.ie or follow @bendykenndy on twitter for more info.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Mat the trasher


    Has anyone tried this or similar? Need to improve my flexibility, getting stiff back and neck because of working at a pc too long and thought that this might be a way introduce myself to yoga and also benefit the card at the same time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭irish bloke


    Its actually supposed to be great for golf. Looking into it myself at the moment. There are some good golf workout sessions on youtube worth doing.

    I think the below video is great at explaining the importance of good flexibility over any other exercise you can do for golf.



    As "thegen" pointed out it can also be viewed at the below link and from what I can see, the GUI endorse.

    http://www.yogaforgolf.ie/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭k.p.h


    Hmmmm ... One thing, The hip movement and footwork that you need to do that workout is not exactly the best movement for a golf swing. I'm not sure if repeatedly doing anything like that would benefit anyone's swing.

    Could easily see some one spending a few weeks on that thing and then stepping up to hit a ball, fire the hips like a lunatic, lifting the right heel instead of banking, leave the club behind and loose all connection, and then hook the ball off the course and wonder what the hell happened....

    TBH most people need to forget about rotating the hips through, they need to think about the weight shift to the left.It's weight shift that drops the club on plane and allows people to hit the ball consistently straight.

    It's a good experiment to do, stand up take a pretend back swing and rotate, only place the club can go is OTT, if you do the same back swing and slide to the left the arms automatically drop down on plane for a nice shallow angle of attack.

    Rotation = bad, weight shift = good ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭irish bloke


    k.p.h wrote: »
    Hmmmm ... One thing, The hip movement and footwork that you need to do that workout is not exactly the best movement for a golf swing. I'm not sure if repeatedly doing anything like that would benefit anyone's swing.

    Could easily see some one spending a few weeks on that thing and then stepping up to hit a ball, fire the hips like a lunatic, lifting the right heel instead of banking, leave the club behind and loose all connection, and then hook the ball off the course and wonder what the hell happened....

    TBH most people need to forget about rotating the hips through, they need to think about the weight shift to the left.It's weight shift that drops the club on plane and allows people to hit the ball consistently straight.

    It's a good experiment to do, stand up take a pretend back swing and rotate, only place the club can go is OTT, if you do the same back swing and slide to the left the arms automatically drop down on plane for a nice shallow angle of attack.

    Rotation = bad, weight shift = good ..

    I think your missing the point of the video k.p.h.

    What I am trying to demonstrate is that flexibility is the key fitness ingredient in improving the golf swing. Greater extension, greater rotation etc etc... I think I pretty much stated that in my original post.

    Im not by any means advocating any of his exercises or his particular training techniques.

    On a different note, im not really with you on the rotate = bad and weight shift = good bit either.

    Its no good just moving your hips to the left if your not going to rotate them through the swing as well. Move hips to the left first with no rotation and be sure you will go OTT. (sliding is bad)

    For me they both go hand in hand. Start D/swing with the left foot which gets the weight moving forward and the hips rotating simultaneously


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭irish bloke


    k.p.h wrote: »
    TBH most people need to forget about rotating the hips through, they need to think about the weight shift to the left.It's weight shift that drops the club on plane and allows people to hit the ball consistently straight.

    It's a good experiment to do, stand up take a pretend back swing and rotate, only place the club can go is OTT, if you do the same back swing and slide to the left the arms automatically drop down on plane for a nice shallow angle of attack.

    Rotation = bad, weight shift = good ..


    There is plenty on the net about it (rotate vs. slide to the left) . Heres the first one I saw.:)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭k.p.h


    Oh yeah sorry IB, knew you were not on about that particular contraption,I just though it looked so ridiculous I had to say something.

    Well you phrase it so well with:
    For me they both go hand in hand. Start D/swing with the left foot which gets the weight moving forward and the hips rotating simultaneously

    But that's a lot easier to say than interpret properly and do..

    Have a read of this threadsee what you think. I don't completely agree with it, but a lot of it makes sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭irish bloke


    k.p.h wrote: »
    Oh yeah sorry IB, knew you were not on about that particular contraption,I just though it looked so ridiculous I had to say something.

    Aye, it is a bit of a mad looking thing alright, especially when he is doing that Elvis impersonation on it at the end.:eek:
    k.p.h wrote: »
    But that's a lot easier to say than interpret properly and do...

    Totally agree
    k.p.h wrote: »
    Have a read of this threadsee what you think. I don't completely agree with it, but a lot of it makes sense.

    Yes good thread and good examples there, but while no doubt there is a hip slide on all those examples, there is also a hip rotation in them too.

    If you look at them again, their hips are all closed (turned to the left) at the top of their backswings. A 45 degree turn of the hips is roughly the same as a 90 degree turn of the shoulders, so it doesn't look as noticeable in the swing.

    If you look at luke below (22 sec onwards), he has quite a bit of hip rotation throughout his swing.

    I think when you push forward off the left (keeping your head back of course) you will automatically slide and rotate naturally..

    Just my 2 cents:)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭k.p.h


    Absolutely nothing to do with yoga, how about this guy. I think he explains it well. What he shows here as "not" to do is extremely common (I do it myself, and I have been paying particular attention on course to see if my plating partners do it). This is the reason I would say weight shift and not rotate, but again it depends on what way you interpret it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭trigger26


    Yeah I have used Bikram yoga before and it worked great for loosening up the body. I live in Wexford now so instead I started playing squash last winter as no one does the Bikram down here.

    I've found the squash even better than the yoga, whatever muscles that the squash works has increased my drives and I'm up a club even in this cooler weather, helps with eye hand coordination too!

    trig


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,893 ✭✭✭alxmorgan


    k.p.h wrote: »
    Absolutely nothing to do with yoga, how about this guy. I think he explains it well. What he shows here as "not" to do is extremely common (I do it myself, and I have been paying particular attention on course to see if my plating partners do it). This is the reason I would say weight shift and not rotate, but again it depends on what way you interpret it.


    Excellent vid. Reminds me of a 4 handicapper I played with once who hit the ball a bloody mile and the one thing I remember about his swing was that his legs were practically together at the point of impact.
    Must try that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭irish bloke


    k.p.h wrote: »
    Absolutely nothing to do with yoga, how about this guy. I think he explains it well. What he shows here as "not" to do is extremely common (I do it myself, and I have been paying particular attention on course to see if my plating partners do it). This is the reason I would say weight shift and not rotate, but again it depends on what way you interpret it.



    I like the ball at the heel indicator, will use that.

    When I move as aggressively froward as that with the hips, I tend to move my upper body forward too, which funnily enough brings me back to flexibility/yoga.

    Take a look at a vid of your swing and move as aggressively forward with the hips as that vid, if your head hasn't moved forward, your in a good place with your swing..


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