Irish born, managing abroad?

MANUTD99

I'm just trying to think of Irish born men now managing abroad in the game. Just been watching Pat Fenlon getting interviewed and got me wondering.

paddy kerins

Brian Kerr with the Faroe Islands. I think David O'Leary was in charge of a team in the UAE

killwill

Tough one because we might not know if they were actually Irish born.

Brian Kerr and Roddy collins were but not anymore

TerryTibbs!

paddy kerins wrote: »

Brian Kerr with the Faroe Islands. I think David O'Leary was in charge of a team in the UAE

O'Leary isn't Irish born.

MANUTD99

killwill wrote: »

Tough one because we might not know if they were actually Irish born.

Brian Kerr and Roddy collins were but not anymore

Aye it's a tough one maybe if I broaden the list to include Irish capped but then you'll have people like Owen Coyle included on the list and I wouldn't really class him as Irish

paddy kerins

TerryTibbs! wrote: »

O'Leary isn't Irish born.

Oh. Didn't know that

L'prof

TerryTibbs! wrote: »

O'Leary isn't Irish born.

Irish raised though, much of a muchness.

losthorizon

Ronnie Whelan played senior football in Ireland and England. And Managed in Greece, England and Cyprus.

IvySlayer

There's an Irish dude managing in Sweden second highest league!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Walker

Rhys Essien

Corkman Frank O' Farrell managed Man Utd and Iran amongst others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_O%27Farrell

Corkman Charlie Hurley was a Sunderland legend and managed Reading.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hurley

Corkman Roy Keane was a legend.

Zebra3

Rhys Essien wrote: »

Corkman Frank O' Farrell managed Man Utd and Iran amongst others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_O%27Farrell

Corkman Charlie Hurley was a Sunderland legend and managed Reading.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hurley

Corkman Roy Keane was a legend.

None of which is relevant to the thread. :rolleyes:

Martin O'Neill is of course managing Sunderland.

shanec1928

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_O%27Riordan

A Dub in Glasgo

Jim Gannon at Stockport (Irish raised not born)

bobbysands81

Neil Lennon - Celtic.

bobbysands81

TerryTibbs! wrote: »

O'Leary isn't Irish born.

Yup, a Londonian... but he is Irish.

TerryTibbs!

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Neil Lennon - Celtic.

Northern Irish

MANUTD99

TerryTibbs! wrote: »

Northern Irish

Oh no he didn't:pac:

Good Friday Agreement = Irish passport

losthorizon

MANUTD99 wrote: »

Oh no he didn't:pac:

Good Friday Agreement = Irish passport

You have the right to an Irish passport. He might not have an Irish passport!


I doubt if Peter Robinson has an Irish Passport or many Linfield fans.

Collie D

Seán Connor is managing in Zimbabwe of all places.

bobbysands81

losthorizon wrote: »

You have the right to an Irish passport. He might not have an Irish passport!


I doubt if Peter Robinson has an Irish Passport or many Linfield fans.

No, but they have the right to be recognised as Irish should they wish.

The_Kew_Tour

Zebra3 wrote: »

None of which is relevant to the thread. :rolleyes:

Martin O'Neill is of course managing Sunderland.

Some people are easy to wind up:rolleyes:

3hn2givr7mx1sc

It's happening already. Good God.

losthorizon

Liam Brady managed Foreign clubs - obviously born in Dublin and played junior football in Ireland and then played in England and most famously Italy where they worship him. He went on to to manage Glasgow Celtic Of Scotland and Brighton in England.

Stephen Kenny played a few times in the LOI (less than 10) and managed teams in the Republic, NI and and Scotland)

Damien Richardson has played in Ireland and England and has managed in England, Ireland and the Peoples Republic of Cork

The_Kew_Tour

Pretty sure John Giles managed some team in States.

Vancover or some crowd like that

losthorizon

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Pretty sure John Giles managed some team in States.

Vancover or some crowd like that

David O'Learys Brother who played for Shamrock Rovers left for Vancover Whitecap so you might be right. Pierce was his name. His son Ryan turned down the chance to play for Ireland and instead turned out for the scottish U-21s.

MANUTD99

losthorizon wrote: »

You have the right to an Irish passport. He might not have an Irish passport!


I doubt if Peter Robinson has an Irish Passport or many Linfield fans.

This has actually got me wondering. Over all the years we have people playing for Ireland on the "Granny Rule". Do/did these players have/had to be holding an Irish passport to play?

The_Kew_Tour

losthorizon wrote: »

David O'Learys Brother who played for Shamrock Rovers left for Vancover Whitecap so you might be right. Pierce was his name. His son Ryan turned down the chance to play for Ireland and instead turned out for the scottish U-21s.

Checked wiki and once its correct Giles did indeed manage Whitecaps.:)

The_Kew_Tour

I knew there was some big name I was missing. Patrick O Connell managed Barcelona and actually saved the club at one stage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_O%27Connell_(Irish_footballer)

edit: should have read the op a bit better :-)

MANUTD99

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I knew there was some big name I was missing. Patrick O Connell managed Barcelona and actually saved the club at one stage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_O%27Connell_(Irish_footballer)

edit: should have read the op a bit better :-)

Yep I think there is a thread somewhere dedicated to this fella. When I was looking for Irish managers today I can across him again on Wiki. A truly remarkable and sad story.I believe(correct me if wrong) he died unknown,heavy drinker in a hospice and alone..

He actually won La Liga with Betis

The_Kew_Tour

MANUTD99 wrote: »

Yep I think there is a thread somewhere dedicated to this fella. When I was looking for Irish managers today I can across him again on Wiki. A truly remarkable and sad story.I believe(correct me if wrong) he died unknown,heavy drinker in a hospice and alone..

He actually won La Liga with Betis

I think it was only league title they won too(Betis)

grenache

Johnny Carey, who famously played with Johnny Giles at United, managed Nottm Forest in the 60s. He guided them to 2nd place in '67 behind the great United team that went on to conquer Europe the following year.

There is also Joe Kinnear. Who had many successes with Wimbledon, and also managed Luton, Forest and Newcastle. I don't know how he developed such a thick cockney accent though, considering that he was born and bred in Dublin, only leaving for England at 20.

Madworld

He moved to Watford when he was 7.

ollaetta

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Checked wiki and once its correct Giles did indeed manage Whitecaps.:)

While still manager of Rovers in the LOI!!! Can't remember the exact details but he had some arrangement whereby he went over to Canada a few weeks before the LOI season ended to manage Whitecaps for their summer season and back to Rovers in the autumn. Lasted 2, maybe 3 seasons up to him leaving Rovers in '83.

The_Kew_Tour

ollaetta wrote: »

While still manager of Rovers in the LOI!!! Can't remember the exact details but he had some arrangement whereby he went over to Canada a few weeks before the LOI season ended to manage Whitecaps for their summer season and back to Rovers in the autumn. Lasted 2, maybe 3 seasons up to him leaving Rovers in '83.

No way!!

he most have been making few dollars from it so to make it worthwhile.

Do you know if he did well with Vancover by any chance?

theoneeyedman

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Pretty sure John Giles managed some team in States.

Vancover or some crowd like that

Vancouver is in Canada, not the States....

Surprised Brendan Rogers hasn't been mentioned by now ...

losthorizon

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

No way!!

he most have been making few dollars from it so to make it worthwhile.

Do you know if he did well with Vancover by any chance?

That's nothing!

Haven't you ever heard of Boston Rovers?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Rovers

ballsymchugh

MANUTD99 wrote: »

This has actually got me wondering. Over all the years we have people playing for Ireland on the "Granny Rule". Do/did these players have/had to be holding an Irish passport to play?

fifa brought in a rule before the 94 world cup that you had to have the passport of the country you're representing. it was a bit of a story back then about rushing through an application for jason mcateer.

ollaetta

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

No way!!

he most have been making few dollars from it so to make it worthwhile.

Do you know if he did well with Vancover by any chance?

Not a clue unfortunately. One other daft aspect to the story, Pierce O'Leary moved from Rovers to Whitecaps in one of those years!

Mars Bar

ollaetta wrote: »

Not a clue unfortunately. One other daft aspect to the story, Pierce O'Leary moved from Rovers to Whitecaps in one of those years!

A few Irish guys followed him over there for brief-ish spells, Jimmy Holmes, Liam Buckley, Harry Kenny and Mick Martin.

carlcon

Not much use to you, but I've come across a few Irish coaches in the States... just can't remember names or teams. :rolleyes: