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Converting Saloons to Commercials?

  • 17-02-2012 5:36pm
    #1
    what recession?
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭


    Random enough topic, I know. Has anybody converted a saloon to a commercial for tax purposes?

    There's so many good deals out there on S-Class/ A8/ 7-series/ etc. that aren't feasible due to the tax that you'd have to pay. All of the above would definitely have enough volume in the back to be considered commercial if the seats were removed and you don't have to even have the windows tinted or changed. It seems as if you'd just have to get the seats removed and perhaps carpet over the whole rear area? Even if anybody has had experience converting a jeep - was it expensive?

    I am almost sure I saw a converted S-Class for sale on carzone a few years ago. Would be great to pic up an S500 or something ridiculous and pay less than 300 tax on it, if you have a company that is.

    Also, does anybody think that big GT's like Mercedes CL or BMW 6-series would have enough volume to be considered a commercial if you removed all the seats, etc. in the back?


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  • #2
    mullingar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭mullingar


    Saloons? No. As you don't have full access to the load area.

    However, this RS6 when modified should........

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=413245504691120
    media?xwm=y&id=b5ff9842-985d-4a44-88c1-380905512909&width=400&height=300


  • #3
    what recession?
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭what recession?


    Yes I have seen some A6's before. So it's completely impossible unless its in a jeep, hatchback or estate?


  • #4
    mullingar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭mullingar


    Yes.

    The other option is to set up a small chauffeuring company, tax is a flat rate of €80odd a year with no modifying


  • #5
    what recession?
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭what recession?


    Interesting! However, I assume that there could be a big difference in the insurance for the vehicle if it was supposedly being used for chauffeuring? I guess it would be similar to a taxi situation, and I have a feeling they pay quite a lot more than regular vehicles- although I may be mistaken.


  • #6
    FearDark
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    I read on another forum that some lad successfully converted a 350z to a commercial for tax reasons. I'll have a quick google...


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  • #7
    dgt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    Several 3000gt's and 300zx's have been converted to commercials. I heard of someone commercialising an ae86. There was a commercial rs4 for sale not too long ago


  • #8
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    mullingar wrote: »
    Yes.

    The other option is to set up a small chauffeuring company, tax is a flat rate of €80odd a year with no modifying

    You will need a psv licence and get a chaffuer licence which costs 1k plus nct it every year. You must keep books then of some sort to prove you are trading along with the proper insurance..


  • #9
    MrFoxman360
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭MrFoxman360


    I saw a nice BMW touring registered as a hearse on donedeal a while back, thats less than 100 euro tax i think. Loopholes are still out there but they are tightening up now.


  • #10
    what recession?
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭what recession?


    FearDark wrote: »
    I read on another forum that some lad successfully converted a 350z to a commercial for tax reasons. I'll have a quick google...

    They're a nice car, but I think the tax put everyone off them! They should have put them all on the road as 2 seater commercials, ha. Put up the link if you find it please


  • #11
    dgt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    MrFoxman360 wrote: »
    I saw a nice BMW touring registered as a hearse on donedeal a while back, thats less than 100 euro tax i think. Loopholes are still out there but they are tightening up now.

    The guy that had it was a registered undertaker... ;)


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  • #12
    MrFoxman360
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭MrFoxman360


    dgt wrote: »
    The guy that had it was a registered undertaker... ;)

    Do you need to show a PSV licence to tax a hearse, and do you need one to drive a hearse in the first place. No good to anyone if they can't be taxed i suppose


  • #13
    FearDark
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    what recession? wrote: »
    They're a nice car, but I think the tax put everyone off them! They should have put them all on the road as 2 seater commercials, ha. Put up the link if you find it please

    After much googling it brings me back to boards! Here is the thread on it, unfortunately its all hear say and a friend of a friend stuff...

    Thread here.


  • #14
    dgt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    MrFoxman360 wrote: »
    Do you need to show a PSV licence to tax a hearse, and do you need one to drive a hearse in the first place. No good to anyone if they can't be taxed i suppose

    I'm nearly sure in the ad he said the tax classification would have to be changed to private unless it was going to another undertaker...


  • #15
    barura
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,504 ✭✭✭barura


    mullingar wrote: »
    Saloons? No. As you don't have full access to the load area.

    However, this RS6 when modified should........

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=413245504691120
    media?xwm=y&id=b5ff9842-985d-4a44-88c1-380905512909&width=400&height=300
    A 2 seater coupe count by that merit?


  • #16
    what recession?
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭what recession?


    FearDark wrote: »
    After much googling it brings me back to boards! Here is the thread on it, unfortunately its all hear say and a friend of a friend stuff...

    Thread here.

    Interesting stuff, the Z4M would be another really good one! I can imagine the Z4M and 350Z working considering they're hatchbacks. Not sure about their capacity though


  • #17
    mullingar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭mullingar


    barura wrote: »
    A 2 seater coupe count by that merit?

    No. There is a rule that the load area must be 50%-75% of the wheelbase. I don't know the exact rule


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