My clubs predicament

Redzah

Hi all,

I've realised over the last 6 months that the options of clubs in my bag are not ideal and that in particular i find myself reaching for my hybrid more so than my 3 iron (goes similiar distance but different flight) when needed. I don't want to go all YE Yang on it but i do think that I hit the hybrid very well and sometimes it feels like cheating i find it so easy to hit. I'm also thinking of increasing my wedge options in the bag so i would be open to any suggestions on the optimal clubs for me as I am a low handicapper and feel i could get more out of the clubs i carry by changing my options, see below for my current options;

Currently
Driver - Titleist 905T 9.5 deg
3 Wood - Taylormade R9 supertri - 15 deg
Hybrid - Callaway diablio 21 deg
Irons - titleist 710 cb - 3-PW
Wedges - Titeist Vokey spin milled 54 and 60 deg

I'm leaning towards the following option;

Proposed
Driver - Titleist 905 T 9.5 deg
3 Wood - Taylormade R9 supertri - 15 deg
2 Hybrids - 18/19 Deg and 22 Deg
Irons - titleist 710 cb - 5-PW
Wedges - Titeist Vokey 52, 56, 60 degree

Any thoughts and suggestions would be greatly appreciated

mike12

Hi,
You second option is what i carry myself 3 and 4 irons are grand off the fairway but what holes are you going to be 200 plus yards away to use them. The hybrids give you the option of hitting out of rough or semi rough that the long irons don't. The 3 wedges give you more options in the 100 yards in area which will save you more shots. Just check the loft of your PW to make sure the gap is even if its 45degrees u may need to look at a 50 degree gap wedge.
Mike

dnjoyce

just changed from a 2-Hybrid set-up back to 20degree and 4-pw - longer iron handy to have if need to poke it out from under trees etc. I hybrid probably enough if you can hit the 4-iron decently from the fairway.

I second Mike's thoughts on the PW loft - my last 3 sets have had a 46 degree PW, so consequently I have 50, 54 and 60 wedges to try to even the gaps between them.

L.O.F.T

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Kid Charlemagne

Redzah wrote: »

I hit the hybrid very well and sometimes it feels like cheating i find it so easy to hit.

i wouldnt be experienced enough to give you proper advice per se but i would say why change that hybrid if its so good? especially considering your only goin 1 degree up.
just seems to be the classic golfer syndrome of "its easy to hit so i must get something more difficult or im not pushing myself"

Redzah

mike12 wrote: »

Hi,
You second option is what i carry myself 3 and 4 irons are grand off the fairway but what holes are you going to be 200 plus yards away to use them. The hybrids give you the option of hitting out of rough or semi rough that the long irons don't. The 3 wedges give you more options in the 100 yards in area which will save you more shots. Just check the loft of your PW to make sure the gap is even if its 45degrees u may need to look at a 50 degree gap wedge.
Mike

PW has a 47 degree loft and i've no issues hitting a soft wedge if needed so i'm thinkin 52, 56 and 60 might be the best way to go.

Unsure about ditching the 4 iron as a stinger shot is always handy on certain holes. However, at least with the proposed options that I can pick and choose based on the course and wind on a given day as I'll be keeping the 3 and 4 even if not in the bag.

Also i've considered going mental and going with 5 wedges by adding a 64 degree to the mix, it could be very effective for certain times and places. Any suggestions on which club to drop should i do this?

Redzah

Kid Charlemagne wrote: »

i wouldnt be experienced enough to give you proper advice per se but i would say why change that hybrid if its so good? especially considering your only goin 1 degree up.
just seems to be the classic golfer syndrome of "its easy to hit so i must get something more difficult or im not pushing myself"

Ya thats a fair point. I might keep the 21 and get a 24 as well so. A bit of a Gap left between the 3 wood and the 21 degree but nothing a gripped down 3 wood won't fix, plus its not as if this scenario happens that often

Loire

Redzah wrote: »

Unsure about ditching the 4 iron as a stinger shot is always handy on certain holes.

And certain conditions...like long par 3s into the wind. I also think that as a low handicapper, you're well able to hit a good long iron regularly and the buzz from that will keep you enjoying the game more so than hitting rescues all the time! I'd keep the 4 iron and your existing hybrid. As your PW is a 47 degree I would go 52/56/60 to keep the gap the same.

Russman

There's no right answer and no wrong answer to be honest, it all depends on what clubs you're more comfortable with (with a bit of common sense thrown in !)
Personally I go:
Driver, 3w, 5w, 21 deg Hybrid, 4-PW, 52 & 56. I'm probably overloading the long end of the bag a little but hey.

Very occasionally I'll throw in a lob wedge and remove either the 52, 5w or the hybrid, but usually not. IMHO lob wedges can cause more dropped shots than they save, unless you're very well used to using one.

BoardsMember

I'd be a bit more scientific on the decision regarding 3 wood, and your choice of what hybrids to purchase. I carry a 15deg 3 wood, 19deg hybrid & 24deg hybrid. This really works for me. The 24deg gives you loads of options regarding distance. You can shape it with a draw and hit it miles (I hit it about 170m carry into wind the other day, nailed it), or hit a gently high fade for the recovery from rough requirement. What I find is that my 24deg fills in for the 3 & 4 iron. Sometimes I use it for 5 iron distance if I'm in the heavy stuff.

So, if I was you I would go a higher loft hybrid for my second hybrid. Then again, if I was you, I would probably completely discount advice given by a 9 handicap golfer!

Redzah

Loire wrote: »

And certain conditions...like long par 3s into the wind. I also think that as a low handicapper, you're well able to hit a good long iron regularly and the buzz from that will keep you enjoying the game more so than hitting rescues all the time! I'd keep the 4 iron and your existing hybrid. As your PW is a 47 degree I would go 52/56/60 to keep the gap the same.

I've always loved hitting a long iron loire and a 3 iron back in the stance has always been a banker of a shot for me as it basically doesn't get in the air enough to go off line. However, i think it was this reason that i have been reluctant to make the switch till now but it was like a light bulb went off when i though about this and how well i've been hitting the 21 deg so i'm considering adding another loft with the hybrid. I might keep the wedges as they are and ditch the 3 iron for a 24 Deg even though my 4 iron is 24 deg i think the hybrids go further and would be closer to a 3 iron than a 4.

golfnut1

I think having the option of either 3&4 iron or 2 hybirds is the way to go. Choose what goes in the bag on the day. Links golf or just a windy day your going to want your 3 and 4 iron. Parkland with just a light wind hybrids. Regarding 64 degree wedge I'd say don't bother open up your 60 and you've got what ever loft you want.

Whyner

Redzah wrote: »

I am a low handicapper and feel i could get more out of the clubs i carry by changing my options

Learn more shot types and forget about your clubs that you already hit so well

Go work on your weaknesses

Loire

Redzah wrote: »

I've always loved hitting a long iron loire and a 3 iron back in the stance has always been a banker of a shot for me as it basically doesn't get in the air enough to go off line. However, i think it was this reason that i have been reluctant to make the switch till now but it was like a light bulb went off when i though about this and how well i've been hitting the 21 deg so i'm considering adding another loft with the hybrid. I might keep the wedges as they are and ditch the 3 iron for a 24 Deg even though my 4 iron is 24 deg i think the hybrids go further and would be closer to a 3 iron than a 4.

To quote Madonna (of all people) in James Bond / The World is Not Enough..."There's no point in living if you can't feel alive". What I am getting at is that for me, a good long iron is one of those shots that gets me pumped up and often transforms a round. My own 4 iron is at the back of the shed for being a naughty little boy, but I hope to bring it out again soon!

Seve OB

Redzah wrote: »

I don't want to go all YE Yang on it but i do think that I hit the hybrid very well and sometimes it feels like cheating i find it so easy to hit.

I agree, totally think hybrids are kind of cheating which is why I won't put one in my bag.

I'm a 13 handicapper, with much better potential if I am honest, would generally have 8 or 9 pars and a birdie per round - - lack of discipline and practice doesn't help

Anyway, I carry blades, always have, always will, as I feel like cavity backs are also a kind of cheat, not that I'm calling anyones why carries hybrids or cavity backs cheats, just that when I play, I want to challenge myself, more than I probably should!

In the bag

Driver: Taylor made R540
3 Wood: Taylor Made 200 Steel
5 Wood: Taylor Made R5

2-7 & 9, PW &SW: Taylor Made 300 Series Irons
8 Iron: Taylor Made TP Forged (similar to the set but original lost)
58 Degree Lob Wedge

I fluctuate between the 2 iron and lob wedge depending on where I'm playing, but mostly had have the lob wedge in the bag

Redzah

Whyner wrote: »

Learn more shot types and forget about your clubs that you already hit so well

Go work on your weaknesses

In fairness whyner, i'm happy enough that i can hit all shot types required. I play with a slight draw but this is not dominant and i am also very comfortable fading the ball as well as choking up on a club if i want to hit a softer shot.

I think you are missing the point as the reason I am considering the change is due to a hybid being my current preferred shot from a 200 -225 distance and one which i think i hit more consistenly well. I can hit a low punched 3 iron fine or a high fade with a 3 iron, but i will hit the green and stop it quicker more often with the hybrid options.

If I were to listen to what u say and go work on my current weaknesses then I would be on the putting green (which i am already doing) which would not help me much when I am 200-225 yards.

Whyner

stevieob wrote: »

I agree, totally think hybrids are kind of cheating which is why I won't put one in my bag.

I'm a 13 handicapper, with much better potential if I am honest, would generally have 8 or 9 pars and a birdie per round - - lack of discipline and practice doesn't help

Anyway, I carry blades, always have, always will, as I feel like cavity backs are also a kind of cheat, not that I'm calling anyones why carries hybrids or cavity backs cheats, just that when I play, I want to challenge myself, more than I probably should!

In the bag

Driver: Taylor made R540
3 Wood: Taylor Made 200 Steel
5 Wood: Taylor Made R5

2-7 & 9, PW &SW: Taylor Made 300 Series Irons
8 Iron: Taylor Made TP Forged (similar to the set but original lost)
58 Degree Lob Wedge

I fluctuate between the 2 iron and lob wedge depending on where I'm playing, but mostly had have the lob wedge in the bag

Hilarious...

Redzah

stevieob wrote: »

I agree, totally think hybrids are kind of cheating which is why I won't put one in my bag.

I'm a 13 handicapper, with much better potential if I am honest, would generally have 8 or 9 pars and a birdie per round - - lack of discipline and practice doesn't help

Anyway, I carry blades, always have, always will, as I feel like cavity backs are also a kind of cheat, not that I'm calling anyones why carries hybrids or cavity backs cheats, just that when I play, I want to challenge myself, more than I probably should!

In the bag

Driver: Taylor made R540
3 Wood: Taylor Made 200 Steel
5 Wood: Taylor Made R5

2-7 & 9, PW &SW: Taylor Made 300 Series Irons
8 Iron: Taylor Made TP Forged (similar to the set but original lost)
58 Degree Lob Wedge

I fluctuate between the 2 iron and lob wedge depending on where I'm playing, but mostly had have the lob wedge in the bag

Stevie I think u will only keep falling further behind in the game if u do not take advantage of the legal tecnnological advances. For somebody off 13 who feels they have better potential then a major consideration should be to take advantage of the legal tools available to u that can increase your potential. I mean if u shaved 3 shots of your handicap and got to 10 by taking advantage of the advances then u have a challenge straight away so I think there are plenty other ways to challenge urself on the golf club than being a stubborn traditionalist. Can i ask if u use Metal or Wooden Woods?

Osgoodisgood

I usually carry
Driver
3wood
16 degree Hybrid
20 degree Hybrid
4-PW (pw is 47 deg)
GW 53
SW 58

I like the consistent distance spread at the top of the bag (they all go 300 yards) and the wedges give me all the options I need. I used to carry a 60 deg LW but it really doesn't offer much that a 58 can with a bit of manipulation.
Works for me anyway!

Redzah

Redzah wrote: »

Stevie I think u will only keep falling further behind in the game if u do not take advantage of the legal tecnnological advances. For somebody off 13 who feels they have better potential then a major consideration should be to take advantage of the legal tools available to u that can increase your potential. I mean if u shaved 3 shots of your handicap and got to 10 by taking advantage of the advances then u have a challenge straight away so I think there are plenty other ways to challenge urself on the golf club than being a stubborn traditionalist. Can i ask if u use Metal or Wooden Woods?

Sorry i see the answer to my question now. Your use of the metal woods would seem contradictory to your traditionalist views IMO. My advice would be to make use of the technology and challenge yourself by playing off a lower handicap.

Whyner

Redzah wrote: »

In fairness whyner, i'm happy enough that i can hit all shot types required. I play with a slight draw but this is not dominant and i am also very comfortable fading the ball as well as choking up on a club if i want to hit a softer shot.

I think you are missing the point as the reason I am considering the change is due to a hybid being my current preferred shot from a 200 -225 distance and one which i think i hit more consistenly well. I can hit a low punched 3 iron fine or a high fade with a 3 iron, but i will hit the green and stop it quicker more often with the hybrid options.

If I were to listen to what u say and go work on my current weaknesses then I would be on the putting green (which i am already doing) which would not help me much when I am 200-225 yards.

Is there anything you can't do???

I don't understand your problem then. Work out whatever clubs you need and leave out the others

Redzah

Whyner wrote: »

Is there anything you can't do???

I don't understand your problem then. Work out whatever clubs you need and leave out the others

Whyner, i don't think u are adding any value to this thread. Basically, at present i hit the hybrids more consistent than my long irons and was asking for opinions on what may work best for me where I have good choices from this range while also exploring adding another wedge to the bag. All other posters have added value to this thread with their suggestions and have given me food for thought. However all u have contributed is to work on my weaknesses and ask me if theirs anything i can't do. I do have some shots that are weaker than others and this is one example. I am comfortable over a long iron but I am very comfortable over a hybrid as i hit it better. Therefore my long irons are currently weaker than my hybrids and i'm trying to take advantage of my strengths. I hope u understand

newport2

Redzah wrote: »

I am comfortable over a long iron but I am very comfortable over a hybrid as i hit it better. Therefore my long irons are currently weaker than my hybrids and i'm trying to take advantage of my strengths.

You've answered your own question here.

Redzah

newport2 wrote: »

You've answered your own question here.

Yes I agree newport but i'm trying to explore lofts by reaching out to the boards community to get a flavour fot the best fit regarding lofts etc. and what then needs to be sacrificed i.e. do i sacrifice 3 & 4 iron or just 3 iron etc.

Its the finer points of this change that i am unsure of and seeing if any advice can help

GreeBo

Redzah wrote: »

Yes I agree newport but i'm trying to explore lofts by reaching out to the boards community to get a flavour fot the best fit regarding lofts etc. and what then needs to be sacrificed i.e. do i sacrifice 3 & 4 iron or just 3 iron etc.

Its the finer points of this change that i am unsure of and seeing if any advice can help

To be honest I'm not sure if there is anyone on here other than maybe Gorfield who can advise a 2 handicapper who already hits the ball consistently further than any of us.

Senecio

A few years ago I swapped my 3 wood for a 4 wood. Doesn't sound too radical, but I didn't lose a great deal of distance in doing it. What it allowed my to do was drop the 3 and 4 irons and replace them with a 22 degree hybrid which I consider to be a 4&1/2 iron from a distance perspective. What that means is that I have consistent gaps at the top end (spaced a little further apart) and a lot more options at the bottom end of my bag where it matters.

Food for thought

Tones69

Ditch the 3 iron dude, and if your happy with your 200yd + game or so id hit up another wedge, ive a 52* bent to 50*, abolutely love it from anything under 120

Redzah

GreeBo wrote: »

To be honest I'm not sure if there is anyone on here other than maybe Gorfield who can advise a 2 handicapper who already hits the ball consistently further than any of us.

Ah i'm trying to get an idea of what might suit greebo and there have def been some beneficial idea from comments so far. Seriously considering a 24 deg after what has been discussed or else adding another wedge as i think i'm a bit short on the wedge department. Sure i'd be interested to know what gorfield has in the bag and for what purpose but some of the other comments i've seen here have been great.

dines08

Hybrids or Fairways with the right shaft are a dream and I'd have them over a long iron anyday of the week. Everybody is different though, personally I'm very happy with the gaps between my clubs. 18* Fairway wood for 230 yards, 21* hybrid for 210-215 yards and 5 iron for 190-195 yards. Carry three wedges then

Kace

Senecio wrote: »

A few years ago I swapped my 3 wood for a 4 wood. Doesn't sound too radical, but I didn't lose a great deal of distance in doing it. What it allowed my to do was drop the 3 and 4 irons and replace them with a 22 degree hybrid which I consider to be a 4&1/2 iron from a distance perspective. What that means is that I have consistent gaps at the top end (spaced a little further apart) and a lot more options at the bottom end of my bag where it matters.

Food for thought

+1 in the 4 wood camp here. Works like both a 3 and 5 as required and gives me scope for a hybrid, retaining a long iron for the stingers and ability to carry 4 wedges too.

Redzah

Kace wrote: »

+1 in the 4 wood camp here. Works like both a 3 and 5 as required and gives me scope for a hybrid, retaining a long iron for the stingers and ability to carry 4 wedges too.

Cheers kace and an interesting thought and i briefly thought about it, however those extra 10 yards would be a tough pill to swallow if it meant having an eagle putt on a par 5 vs being 10 yards short. I'm happy with my current 3 wood aswell so i might not go for this option.

I think i've decided to go with a 24 deg and drop the 3 iron. I will also consider dropping the 4 and incorporating a wedge structure which adds 1 more depending on how that 24 deg goes regarding replacing the 4 iron.

By the way Tones mentioned bending his wedge to take it down a few degrees. Is it that easy could i make my 54 deg a 52 using this method and therefore i will only have to buy a 56. Does it cost much? Cheers all

irish bloke

Redzah wrote: »

Hi all,

I've realised over the last 6 months that the options of clubs in my bag are not ideal and that in particular i find myself reaching for my hybrid more so than my 3 iron (goes similiar distance but different flight) when needed. I don't want to go all YE Yang on it but i do think that I hit the hybrid very well and sometimes it feels like cheating i find it so easy to hit. I'm also thinking of increasing my wedge options in the bag so i would be open to any suggestions on the optimal clubs for me as I am a low handicapper and feel i could get more out of the clubs i carry by changing my options, see below for my current options;

Currently
Driver - Titleist 905T 9.5 deg
3 Wood - Taylormade R9 supertri - 15 deg
Hybrid - Callaway diablio 21 deg
Irons - titleist 710 cb - 3-PW
Wedges - Titeist Vokey spin milled 54 and 60 deg

I'm leaning towards the following option;

Proposed
Driver - Titleist 905 T 9.5 deg
3 Wood - Taylormade R9 supertri - 15 deg
2 Hybrids - 18/19 Deg and 22 Deg
Irons - titleist 710 cb - 5-PW
Wedges - Titeist Vokey 52, 56, 60 degree

Any thoughts and suggestions would be greatly appreciated

Your hardly looking for advice from us mere mortals, now are you???

2 handicapper (cant remember how i know that;);)) and you want advice from us!!:eek:

I'll tell you what clubs you need, if you tell me how easy it is to hit a hybrid...

Myksyk

Posted this on another thread but seems to be relevant here.
I use
Driver
3 wood 15 deg
19 deg rescue
24 deg rescue
5 (27 deg) -9 (43deg)
PW 47
GW 51
SW 56
LW 60

Gives me consistent steps up the set and I like and use the 4 wedges for all the options they give me. The 24 hybrid is a good option. I have the four iron to swap out if needs be.

Kace

Redzah wrote: »

.....
By the way Tones mentioned bending his wedge to take it down a few degrees. Is it that easy could i make my 54 deg a 52 using this method and therefore i will only have to buy a 56. Does it cost much? Cheers all

This should be no more than €5 to bend to whatever loft you want, within the bend-ability specs of your clubs of course. Leopardstown do this but I haven't been to them myself.

I think the two methods to do this are 1) club in vice smacked with a hammer or 2) special club lofting machine.

Tones69

Most places charge about €5 a club to alter the loft/lie etc, very easily done. I like the gaps between 50-54-58 as opposed to 52-56-60

Redzah

Tones69 wrote: »

Most places charge about €5 a club to alter the loft/lie etc, very easily done. I like the gaps between 50-54-58 as opposed to 52-56-60

Ya fair enough Tones, it depends on the PW loft I suppose. Mine is a 47 so at the moment im playing a 47 (PW), 54 and 60. Just a bit too spread out for my liking so i'm def gonna introduce a 4th wedge. Based on the loft of my PW i'll go for the 52, 56 and 60 as it fits best.

BoardsMember

Redzah wrote: »

I think i've decided to go with a 24 deg and drop the 3 iron. I will also consider dropping the 4 and incorporating a wedge structure which adds 1 more depending on how that 24 deg goes regarding replacing the 4 iron.

As suggested by yours truly on page 1!

ozymandias10

Redzah wrote: »

Hi all,

I've realised over the last 6 months that the options of clubs in my bag are not ideal and that in particular i find myself reaching for my hybrid more so than my 3 iron (goes similiar distance but different flight) when needed. I don't want to go all YE Yang on it but i do think that I hit the hybrid very well and sometimes it feels like cheating i find it so easy to hit. I'm also thinking of increasing my wedge options in the bag so i would be open to any suggestions on the optimal clubs for me as I am a low handicapper and feel i could get more out of the clubs i carry by changing my options, see below for my current options;

Currently
Driver - Titleist 905T 9.5 deg
3 Wood - Taylormade R9 supertri - 15 deg
Hybrid - Callaway diablio 21 deg
Irons - titleist 710 cb - 3-PW
Wedges - Titeist Vokey spin milled 54 and 60 deg

I'm leaning towards the following option;

Proposed
Driver - Titleist 905 T 9.5 deg
3 Wood - Taylormade R9 supertri - 15 deg
2 Hybrids - 18/19 Deg and 22 Deg
Irons - titleist 710 cb - 5-PW
Wedges - Titeist Vokey 52, 56, 60 degree

Any thoughts and suggestions would be greatly appreciated

Its just me but I like to put a putter in my bag as well

For Paws

One thing though; afaik it's not easy to 'bend back' a club to its former loft.

And as you know changing loft will alter lie angle and bounce.

Imo take out 3i & 4i & put in hybrids. You can always 'fill' your bag for a particular course anyway. Why not have a selection of clubs to choose from ?

Besides the right putter, a wedge with the best combination of loft, lie & bounce angle (for you) is the most valuable scoring club.

Most manufacturers keep old stock club 'heads', so a 'new' head from an older set can be matched with whatever shaft you want. Check with any Pro shop.

Redzah

ozymandias10 wrote: »

Its just me but I like to put a putter in my bag as well

The putter is taken as a given for those who wish to provide a meaningful comment and not be a smart arse. I have listed 13 clubs for a reason, i wonder what the 14th is???

link_2007

Redzah wrote: »

The putter is taken as a given for those who wish to provide a meaningful comment and not be a smart arse. I have listed 13 clubs for a reason, i wonder what the 14th is???

Chill Redzah, it's just 'banter'

PhilipMarlowe

Touché.

I have two hybrids, 18 and 21 I think and sometimes use both and drop the 3 iron and sometimes leave out one and carry the 3 iron, when I want to hit a lower ball - maybe 190 off the tee under a wind or something. The hybrid has a high flight and for me it's not wise to try and hit it low whereas the iron is naturally low.

In general, the hybrid is way more useful because it can be hit out of a fairway bunker even (try that with a 3 iron!) so it's more sensible to carry in the bag. However, I don't find a huge difference in terms of length between the 18 and the 21 except the 21 is a bit easier to hit IMO. Maybe it's just my swing... Also, for me the 21 is 10 yards longer than my 3 iron so it's possible for me to carry both of them (21 and 3 iron) and I'd leave out the stronger hybrid.

ozymandias10

link_2007 wrote: »

Chill Redzah, it's just 'banter'

is the correct answer

alxmorgan

PhilipMarlowe wrote: »

Touché.

I have two hybrids, 18 and 21 I think and sometimes use both and drop the 3 iron and sometimes leave out one and carry the 3 iron, when I want to hit a lower ball - maybe 190 off the tee under a wind or something. The hybrid has a high flight and for me it's not wise to try and hit it low whereas the iron is naturally low.

In general, the hybrid is way more useful because it can be hit out of a fairway bunker even (try that with a 3 iron!) so it's more sensible to carry in the bag. However, I don't find a huge difference in terms of length between the 18 and the 21 except the 21 is a bit easier to hit IMO. Maybe it's just my swing... Also, for me the 21 is 10 yards longer than my 3 iron so it's possible for me to carry both of them (21 and 3 iron) and I'd leave out the stronger hybrid.

Slight tangent (apologies) - I hit my 22 degree just longer than my 5 iron.
You seem to get longer than 3 iron with 21 degree so I was wondering - ball in middle of stance like iron or slightly further forward like fairway wood and sweep ?

Sorry again

PhilipMarlowe

Sorry, lofts are actually 19 & 22, burner 07 model I think and stamped 3 & 4. Shafts are custom so that might also make some difference. Also, irons would have slightly weaker lofts so that I should get some more height into them.

Anyway, that all adds up to 200 yard carry with the 3 iron for a decent strike and 210 with the 22 degree hybrid the last time I measured them.
I'd always have the ball forward in the stance, a touch less than a fairway wood perhaps.