Little accessory for handgun owners!

fish slapped

Would this really mess with the minds of your local F.O.'s

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Sparks

It might, but it wouldn't make your pistol a rifle under Irish law, because it doesn't alter the barrel length...

Grizzly 45

Not really,as all it is is a overpriced fancy stock for a restricted firearm to turn it into a poor mans PDW.
BTW these yokes wont work on Glocks without the picitinny rails in the reciver [Gen2 plus]

This one would lengthen the barrel.:p
http://www.mechtechsys.com/

rowa

And if it did turn it into a rifle it would still be a restricted rifle , ya can't win.

Hibrion

Even with a butt stock, it would still be classed as a short firearm and come under the same license.
I saw one 9mm pistol that was licensed with a foldable butt stock under the old system and it was classed as being the same as any other 9mm pistol. I believe it was a Steyr, but looked a bit like an SMG to the uniformed eye.

rowa

Does anyone have a long barrelled pistol as used in the uk ? Silly things imho but better then nothing.

Grizzly 45

Hibrion wrote: »

Even with a butt stock, it would still be classed as a short firearm and come under the same license.

Indeed...Still a restricted non liscenseable short firearmpost 11/08 with added accessories to carbineise it.

You MIGHT get away with a pistol action carbine,with a non removeable 16in barrel as a restricted semi auto rifle.

I

saw one 9mm pistol that was licensed with a foldable butt stock under the old system and it was classed as being the same as any other 9mm pistol. I believe it was a Steyr, but looked a bit like an SMG to the uniformed eye.

A semi auto version of the Steyr TMP;).A fun little gun.But like all of these copies of FA PDWs,somwhat disappointing in semi only.:pac:
Waltzing when you should be able to Rock 'n Roll!:p

dax121

shot this in czech great bit of fun outta it :pac:

Grizzly 45

The Roni conversion???Nice 33rnd Glock mag there!:D

firefly08

You MIGHT get away with a pistol action carbine,with a non removeable 16in barrel as a restricted semi auto rifle.

Even if you made it non-semi-auto would it still be restricted then because of the calibre?

Grizzly 45

Uhmmm....Proably!! Dunno if pistol calibres fall under the restricted calibres?? Or is it just the handgun itself???

However it would be kind of an exercise in firearms oddities..
Whats the point in having say a model 1911 in 45ACP with a detachable buttstock and the 16in carbine barrel[Such a kit does exist BTW] permantly affixed to the 1911 frame,and that if it was possible to engineer a 1911 into a straight pull?? With a detachable buttstock as well??
You now have a very ungainly long barrelled single shot magazine fed pistol,and a very mediocre awkward 45 carbine as well.:eek:

In that case why not persuade your cheif superman to liscense you with a 45 ACP thompson carbine lookalike in either semi or straight pull??At least you would somthing alot more comfortable to shoot in straight pull once the bolt and handle were modded?

dax121

firefly08 wrote: »

Even if you made it non-semi-auto would it still be restricted then because of the calibre?

when i went for my licence for a marlin in 38spl the CS told me that all CF pistol ammo is classed as restricted :mad:

Witcher

I'm pretty sure there's no distinction between pistol/rifle ammo in legislation, if it's over .308 it's restricted.

dax121

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

In that case why not persuade your cheif superman to liscense you with a 45 ACP thompson carbine lookalike in either semi or straight pull??At least you would somthing alot more comfortable to shoot in straight pull once the bolt and handle were modded?

i shot one of these with a selector switch for full or semi. lovely piece of kit if i tought my CS would give me a licence for it id go for it. great fun in full auto emptys mags in seconds very hard to keep it on target in full auto trying to empty mags :cool:

dax121

Blay wrote: »

I'm pretty sure there's no distinction between pistol/rifle ammo in legislation, if it's over .308 it's restricted.

ok so why is a marlin 1984cb with a 20" barrel in 38spl restricted?

Witcher

dax121 wrote: »

ok so why is a marlin 1984cb with a 20" barrel in 38spl restricted?

.38 exceeds .308?

It's the diameter of the bullet that makes it restricted.

dax121

im makeing the point in that all CF pistol ammo is restricted. even the .32 is restricted ammo.
im sure one of the mods will be along to clear it up for us.

firefly08

im makeing the point in that all CF pistol ammo is restricted. even the .32 is restricted ammo.
im sure one of the mods will be along to clear it up for us.

Well .32 also exceeds .308. My point was that there is not much centrefire pistol ammo available that doesn't exceed .308 - certainly nothing in common use. So no matter what configuration of barrel and action you use to make a pistol calibre rifle, it's still going to be restricted.

Grizzly 45

dax121 wrote: »

i shot one of these with a selector switch for full or semi. lovely piece of kit if i tought my CS would give me a licence for it id go for it. great fun in full auto emptys mags in seconds very hard to keep it on target in full auto trying to empty mags :cool:

Forget Full auto here...:(.But there are enough companies [inc the original Thompson manufacturers of West Hurley NY] making semi auto carbine models in both long ,short and pistolised versions[IOW a thompson with a vertical foregrip and no buttstock] There is a German company that have retro engineered original ww2 Thompsons [from Russia stocks ofww2 Allied lend lease ] to Semi auto only,and this isnt a simple weld up bits job to semi only.They had to re design the bolt group,trigger mechanism,reciver frame,etc for it to pass the Federal German police technical lab citeria to be a civillian semi auto,not a weapon ofwar.
Not a bad price either...
Why not at least ask..All your CS can do is tell you to take a flying...in the most politest way possible of course!:D
You could at least claim a vintage firearm,and a piece of Irish heritage.As the "rattle box"[as it is known over here in Ireland] never made it to the trenches of ww1,but it did play a part in the war of independance and civil war in Ireland.Not to mind as issue apprently to SB men on protection detail in" the emergency":cool:

Sparks

Blay wrote: »

I'm pretty sure there's no distinction between pistol/rifle ammo in legislation, if it's over .308 it's restricted.

There is a distinction made - all pistol ammo other than blanks for starting pistols and .22lr ammo is restricted.

whydave

Sparks wrote: »

There is a distinction made - all pistol ammo other than blanks for starting pistols and .22lr ammo is restricted.

Ok so would our friends in 'I don't like the look of that' give a licence for one of these ?

pmr 30 kel tec keltec 22 mag
info

Sparks

whydave wrote: »

Ok so would our friends in 'I don't like the look of that' give a licence for one of these ?

No.
Our friends in 'let me just check the Restricted List SI' however, would, so long as you get the magazine plugged to take five rounds only.

Mind you, it looks like a fairly awful piece of .... well, I wouldn't spend my money on it, I like firearms that put the round through the middle. Your milage may vary

Witcher

It's a .22wmr so you won't be able to licence it for the moment, only .22lr pistols allowed.

Sparks

They meant wmr when they said mag, instead of magazine? Fupping translators. In that case, Blay's perfectly right, if it's not .22lr, it's out. Sorry for the mixup.