Importing Bayonets into Ireland

Murichu

Hello all!

I'm hoping someone out there can shed some light on Customs policies regarding importing bayonets. I've read through the restrictions list and don't see edged weapons anywhere, just shurikins, flick knives, cane daggers, etc.

I'd like to order something like this -

http://www.varusteleka.fi/product/bayonets/wehrmacht-sg84-98-bayonet-with-wooden-handle-and-sheath-repro/_2SR0XK1PU

Am wary of it being seized and destroyed by Customs. I know it'd be an idea to ask them myself. Tried ringing them many times, but can never get a straight answer. Emailed another Customs official, but been waiting for reply for a while now.

Hoping someone here might have some experience importing bayonets/collectibles/militaria like this.

HerrScheisse

Why get a repro - you can get an original for not much more!

A friend of mine was told at the post office that weapons such as knives are not permitted to be sent in the post, even if they are antique.

mattjack

I've imported a bayonet and scabbard before with no problems ,make sure the site you buy from is reputable.

Murichu

HerrScheisse wrote: »

Why get a repro - you can get an original for not much more!

A friend of mine was told at the post office that weapons such as knives are not permitted to be sent in the post, even if they are antique.

That's true. Supplied link as an example Of what I hope to import. Would be a travesty if a real bayonet were to be seized and ðestroyed!

Murichu

mattjack wrote: »

I've imported a bayonet and scabbard before with no problems ,make sure the site you buy from is reputable.

How long ago was that? Postal services require a customs ðeclaration form to be attached to post since late last year.

Would eBay be regarded as a reputable seller?

mattjack

Murichu wrote: »

How long ago was that? Postal services require a customs ðeclaration form to be attached to post since late last year.

Would eBay be regarded as a reputable seller?

It was about five years ago.I thought eBay wouldn't bayonets etc to be sold.
The bayonet I bought was an AK47 bayonet and it arrived in an unmarked box i.e. not saying what was in it.
I could be wrong but I always thought importing knives etc was not illeagal.

Murichu

mattjack wrote: »

It was about five years ago.I thought eBay wouldn't bayonets etc to be sold.
The bayonet I bought was an AK47 bayonet and it arrived in an unmarked box i.e. not saying what was in it.
I could be wrong but I always thought importing knives etc was not illeagal.

eBay.com list sellers that post worldwide.

I imported a straight razor early this year, but an edged weapon is a different kettle of fish. If I ordered, a customs declaration sticker would be affixed detailing contents.

I wouldn't chance importing a real bayonet unless I knew for sure it wouldn't be destroyed.

mattjack

Murichu wrote: »

eBay.com list sellers that post worldwide.

I imported a straight razor early this year, but an edged weapon is a different kettle of fish. If I ordered, a customs declaration sticker would be affixed detailing contents.

I wouldn't chance importing a real bayonet unless I knew for sure it wouldn't be destroyed.

Fair enough ,I learned something today.

HerrScheisse

I do not know if the post office have power to destroy objects - after all it is private property.

I referred to what the post office worker stated, that their rules would not allow a knife to be sent in the post regardless of whether it was antique or not.

Not sure about courier services etc.

Murichu

HerrScheisse wrote: »

I do not know if the post office have power to destroy objects - after all it is private property.

I referred to what the post office worker stated, that their rules would not allow a knife to be sent in the post regardless of whether it was antique or not.

Not sure about courier services etc.

It's not An Post that's the issue, it's Customs. They do have the power to seize and destroy an imported object if falls into the restricted category. A Customs Declaration will be attached to the parcel detailing its contents, so privacy is irrelevant.

Whether or not an edged weapon/bayonet falls into that classification is the object of my inquiry.

kowloon

I always assumed it was perfectly okay to do. I've had swords and bayonets arrive in the post with no issues, and customs seem to check quite a lot of it.

Murichu

kowloon wrote: »

I always assumed it was perfectly okay to do. I've had swords and bayonets arrive in the post with no issues, and customs seem to check quite a lot of it.

Customs will scrutinise anything coming from outside the EU, especially for Excise and other Tax purposes. Have you imported any recently?

Out of interest, yesterday I received a response to my query from Prohibitions & Restrictions Unit, Customs Division, Nenagh, Co Tipperary, who informed me that they've forwarded my email to [email]firearms@justice.ie...been[/email] a month trying to get an answer straight from the horses mouth.

WTF!

Fuinseog

Murichu wrote: »

Hello all!

I'm hoping someone out there can shed some light on Customs policies regarding importing bayonets. I've read through the restrictions list and don't see edged weapons anywhere, just shurikins, flick knives, cane daggers, etc.

I'd like to order something like this -

http://www.varusteleka.fi/product/bayonets/wehrmacht-sg84-98-bayonet-with-wooden-handle-and-sheath-repro/_2SR0XK1PU

Am wary of it being seized and destroyed by Customs. I know it'd be an idea to ask them myself. Tried ringing them many times, but can never get a straight answer. Emailed another Customs official, but been waiting for reply for a while now.

Hoping someone here might have some experience importing bayonets/collectibles/militaria like this.

I have ordered bayonets online and they arrived in a parcel with no problems. I also brought four bayonets onto a plane in my main luggage without any problems.

arnhem44

The Justice Department don't list bayonets as a restricted weapons but that's not to say they would not view it as such.It also states that there are exceptions made for collectors of certain items.I've bought bayonets from the U.S.A ,mainland Europe and the U.K. without issue before and only recently got another P1907 from England for one of my SMLE's.I did see though that machete's are banned.

kowloon

Nothing this year but last year I sent home a bayonet from the UK and it landed fine.

Machete's are on the banned list, as are anything that you might see in the hands of a 'ninja' in a movie. Pretty sure our lawmakers have seen too much TV.

Fuinseog

kowloon wrote: »

Nothing this year but last year I sent home a bayonet from the UK and it landed fine.

Machete's are on the banned list, as are anything that you might see in the hands of a 'ninja' in a movie. Pretty sure our lawmakers have seen too much TV.

you can buy knives that are very similiar in size and shape to machetes from the Bear Grylls collection, available at the Scout Shop in Dublin and most good outdoor shops. I wonder how they overcame the law?

because some scumbag chopped off someone's arm samurai swords are forbidden for purchase by the general public(exceptions are made for practioners of iado). I wonder what they would have done if it had been a kitchen knife?

kowloon

All very moronic in my opinion, you have to laugh when shuriken are deemed important enough to have their own place on the list.

Murichu

Update - Ordered my bayonet from Zib-Militaria in Germany, and it arrived last week without issue.

Thrace

Murichu wrote: »

Update - Ordered my bayonet from Zib-Militaria in Germany, and it arrived last week without issue.

Cool, enjoy! Its mostly curved backed blades that cant be imported, which sucks as I always wanted a Prussian sabre. Any pics

edit @$£;#%^4! Just seen the date on the post. Looks like you've owned it for months at this point.