Detached Garage, planning?

martinn123

Hi folks,
couple of questions please, regarding a detached garage, on a site, close to the house.
The regulations state 25 Sqm, before planning required, is that internal floor space, or external walls.

Should that garage, then, later, become a workshop, by the introduction of internal insulation, walls, roof, slab and plastered, and electrical supply, perhaps a water supply, waste connection, connection to Biocycle for toilet, do different rules apply.

I am looking at a particular steel garage, which would sit on a concrete slab, then a final floor poured internally, insulation, DPC etc.
The steel frame can be adapted internally, as above, to achieve a workshop finish. Not for commercial use at any stage, just a workshop for my own use.

Thanks

rayjdav

25sqm gross INTERNAL floor space.

No basically to the rest of the query. Once a change of use to say commercial workshop is not envisaged, what you do in the privacy of your own "workshop" is no ones concern, within reason;):D so falls under the exemption.

There are conditions attached to the exemptions so read them first though and make sure your proposal satisfies each and every condition, to avoid any confusion;)

Mellor

How is a "workshop" different from a shed or garage?

internal insulation, walls, roof, slab and plastered, and electrical supply, perhaps a water supply, waste connection, connection to Biocycle

All these things could just as easily apply to a shed.

So it coems down to what you plan to do in this "workshop"

martinn123

Mellor wrote: »

How is a "workshop" different from a shed or garage?


All these things could just as easily apply to a shed.

So it coems down to what you plan to do in this "workshop"

I suppose thats the question I am posing, and my query is in relation to planning. I am clear now that the '' garage'' will be exempt at under 25 SqM, my long term plan, would be to convert it as outlined.
What I plan to do, is to have a place to retreat to, a '' manshed'' if you like. Workbench for the repairs, store tools, and the little comforts, TV, easy chair, small beer fridge, ( hence the toilet, and washand basin ) perhaps a wood burner, so insulate it, you know the kind of thing we all would like when we retire, internet connection so I can continue to follow this Forum.

Just dont want to put in all that effort and fall fowl, of some Planner who takes the hump at my efforts.

Bullseye1

There is also a height restriction. Consult with the P&D Act regulations.

Poor Uncle Tom

martinn123 wrote: »

Hi folks,
couple of questions please, regarding a detached garage, on a site, close to the house.
The regulations state 25 Sqm, before planning required, is that internal floor space, or external walls.

Should that garage, then, later, become a workshop, by the introduction of internal insulation, walls, roof, slab and plastered, and electrical supply, perhaps a water supply, waste connection, connection to Biocycle for toilet, do different rules apply.

I am looking at a particular steel garage, which would sit on a concrete slab, then a final floor poured internally, insulation, DPC etc.
The steel frame can be adapted internally, as above, to achieve a workshop finish. Not for commercial use at any stage, just a workshop for my own use.

Thanks

The following is the wording of the use of the structure you can build as an exempted development.

CLASS 3

The construction, erection or placing within the curtilage of a house of any tent, awning, shade or other object, greenhouse, garage, store, shed or other similar structure.

The following are the conditions for the construction of the structure.

1. No such structure shall be constructed, erected or placed forward of the front wall of a house.

2. The total area of such structures constructed, erected or placed within the curtilage of a house shall not, taken together with any other such structures previously constructed, erected or placed within the said curtilage, exceed 25 square metres.

3. The construction, erection or placing within the curtilage of a house of any such structure shall not reduce the amount of private open space reserved exclusively for the use of the occupants of the house to the rear or to the side of the house to less than 25 square metres.

4. The external finishes of any garage or other structure constructed, erected or placed to the side of a house, and the roof covering where any such structure has a tiled or slated roof, shall conform with those of the house.

5. The height of any such structure shall not exceed, in the case of a building with a tiled or slated pitched roof, 4 metres or, in any other case, 3 metres.

6. The structure shall not be used for human habitation or for the keeping of pigs, poultry, pigeons, ponies or horses, or for any other purpose other than a purpose incidental to the enjoyment of the house as such.

sydthebeat

martinn123 wrote: »

I suppose thats the question I am posing, and my query is in relation to planning. I am clear now that the '' garage'' will be exempt at under 25 SqM, my long term plan, would be to convert it as outlined.
What I plan to do, is to have a place to retreat to, a '' manshed'' if you like. Workbench for the repairs, store tools, and the little comforts, TV, easy chair, small beer fridge, ( hence the toilet, and washand basin ) perhaps a wood burner, so insulate it, you know the kind of thing we all would like when we retire, internet connection so I can continue to follow this Forum.

Just dont want to put in all that effort and fall fowl, of some Planner who takes the hump at my efforts.

as long as the building would be used "for the enjoyment of the dwelling" you are ok. Once it becomes any kind of a commercial, industrial or communal etc building, its no longer "domestic" and therefore not exempt.

Mellor

sydthebeat wrote: »

as long as the building would be used "for the enjoyment of the dwelling" you are ok. Once it becomes any kind of a commercial, industrial or communal etc building, its no longer "domestic" and therefore not exempt.

This sums it up really.
A man-shed is "incidental to the enjoyment of the house". As long as its not commercially producing anything. and it isn;t being used to sleep in, then it's fine.