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Matt DeVries Replaces Byron Stroud in Fear Factory (sorry, this isn't a joke)
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15-02-2012 8:37am#1
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I'm not too bothered by Byron's departure. I don't think his presence contributed a whole lot to their sound. Unlike the replacement of Ray with Gene Hoglan on drums where anyone can hear the improvement, Byron didn't seem to do much that Christian hadn't already done on bass.
You think Gene is an improvement on Ray?
I have to say ray's drumming is one of my biggest influences, so I wouldn't necessarily say he's better, just different.
It's odd too, as gene's drumming harks back to SOANM/Concrete era FF as opposed to the more mainstream style they were with especially on transgression.
Don't get me wrong Hoglan is a beast, but the style FF have reverted to suits the stuff Hoglan is playing. I'm sure ray would be doing summit similar if he was there (though listening to arkaea I'm not too sure if he's into the heavier stuff anymore
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Your right on the byron thing btw I didn't even know he was on the records half the time.0 -
Yep, a big one (no pun intended).You think Gene is an improvement on Ray?
For me Ray's drumming signature is ultra-precise, almost programmed double-bass lines. Gene does that too (maybe not as precise) but also introduces more tasteful fills. I realise taste is subjective but it just seemed to me on Mechanize that he took the rhythm section to a more technical level than Ray ever did.DrumSteve wrote:I have to say ray's drumming is one of my biggest influences, so I wouldn't necessarily say he's better, just different.
It's odd too, as gene's drumming harks back to SOANM/Concrete era FF as opposed to the more mainstream style they were with especially on transgression.
Some of the songs off Transgression have come up for me on random play recently. I think the whole band plodded their way through that albumDrumSteve wrote:Don't get me wrong Hoglan is a beast, but the style FF have reverted to suits the stuff Hoglan is playing. I'm sure ray would be doing summit similar if he was there (though listening to arkaea I'm not too sure if he's into the heavier stuff anymore)
. The Arkaea stuff seems similarly dull to me. It's not bad as such, there's just nothing particularly gripping about the songs. 0 -
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Yep, a big one (no pun intended).
For me Ray's drumming signature is ultra-precise, almost programmed double-bass lines. Gene does that too (maybe not as precise) but also introduces more tasteful fills. I realise taste is subjective but it just seemed to me on Mechanize that he took the rhythm section to a more technical level than Ray ever did.
Some of the songs off Transgression have come up for me on random play recently. I think the whole band plodded their way through that album. The Arkaea stuff seems similarly dull to me. It's not bad as such, there's just nothing particularly gripping about the songs.
True... Transgression was a let down for me but Moment of Impact was the one redeeming part of that album. Shame too as Archetype was brilliant IMO.
I see what your saying as regards Gene, I always felt though the ultra precise drums fit in with the nature of thier music and what they were trying to do; that whole man/machine thing.(i.e. edgecrusher, shock and self bias resistor).
That being said I'd say fear campaign would be in my top 5 FF songs.
On a side note, not a fan of Arkaea, it's a bit pants really. Can see Gene leaving in a few years and chris/ray coming back and touring the first 3 albums and if we're lucky, Concrete.
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