Maynooth line CIS screens now live

thomasj

Well most of them are. Clonsilla and maynooth are not operational yet. There is also a message saying the displays are currently being tested.

So the good news is the real time system for the maynooth line is LIVE!  Most real time screens are live except clonsilla both platforms. These are now on but not ready yet.

I was on the 22.10 and on the live system the train was expected to arrive at louisa bridge at 22.52, when the train left clonsilla, it changed to 22.50 and then back to 22.52. The train left louisa bridge at 22.52.

On the system its now showing statuses of for example departed clonsilla arrived clonsilla etc. Whereas before the last status would be departed drumcondra.The pis screens are showing the dart format ie "1. Connolly 2 min"

Also good to see the notices you see on the dart line cis screens on the maynooth line cis screens.

MrJoeSoap

thomasj wrote: »

Well most of them are. Clonsilla and maynooth are not operational yet. There is also a message saying the displays are currently being tested.

So the good news is the real time system for the maynooth line is LIVE!  Most real time screens are live except clonsilla both platforms. These are now on but not ready yet.

I was on the 22.10 and on the live system the train was expected to arrive at louisa bridge at 22.52, when the train left clonsilla, it changed to 22.50 and then back to 22.52. The train left louisa bridge at 22.52.

On the system its now showing statuses of for example departed clonsilla arrived clonsilla etc. Whereas before the last status would be departed drumcondra.The pis screens are showing the dart format ie "1. Connolly 2 min"

Also good to see the notices you see on the dart line cis screens on the maynooth line cis screens.

Anyone know how long the screens have been up at Clonsilla without working? I'd be fairly sure it is nearly a decade?

Zaph

I've been using Coolmine station since late 2004. I think they went up there about a year later.

thomasj

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

thomasj wrote: »

Well most of them are. Clonsilla and maynooth are not operational yet. There is also a message saying the displays are currently being tested.

So the good news is the real time system for the maynooth line is LIVE!  Most real time screens are live except clonsilla both platforms. These are now on but not ready yet.

I was on the 22.10 and on the live system the train was expected to arrive at louisa bridge at 22.52, when the train left clonsilla, it changed to 22.50 and then back to 22.52. The train left louisa bridge at 22.52.

On the system its now showing statuses of for example departed clonsilla arrived clonsilla etc. Whereas before the last status would be departed drumcondra.The pis screens are showing the dart format ie "1. Connolly 2 min"

Also good to see the notices you see on the dart line cis screens on the maynooth line cis screens.

Anyone know how long the screens have been up at Clonsilla without working? I'd be fairly sure it is nearly a decade?

Over a decade! Since 2001

MrJoeSoap

thomasj wrote: »

Over a decade! Since 2000

It really is incredible when you think about it, do you know much about the technological side of things and what was preventing them from being used?

thomasj

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

thomasj wrote: »

Over a decade! Since 2000

It really is incredible when you think about it, do you know much about the technological side of things and what was preventing them from being used?

They had claimed it was down to the controlling system not being in place for the maynooth line, saying it had to be controlled from connolly

With all the talk of the line being electrified under ff, and it looking doubtful, is it better to have a service (for clonsilla inwards passengers) every 30 minutes, improvements to stations, live real time information for maynooth line and the leap card than to still just be planning for the underground

n97 mini

I think they're there since the line was redoubled in 2001.

ongarboy

a lot of work is being doing in and around Clonsilla station right now so probably explains why the CIS rollout is being delayed until the other works are completed.

foggy_lad

n97 mini wrote: »

I think they're there since the line was redoubled in 2001.

Now all they have to do is get them installed and working in Broombridge:D:D

thomasj

ongarboy wrote: »

a lot of work is being doing in and around Clonsilla station right now so probably explains why the CIS rollout is being delayed until the other works are completed.

Apparently they are up and running now in clonsilla (well the city bound one is)

ongarboy

thomasj wrote: »

Apparently they are up and running now in clonsilla (well the city bound one is)

I stand corrected. They were operational (and with accurate times!) this morning at Clonsilla. I could have missed them yesterday as I legged it to barely make the train. The outbound one looked like it had a fault as information was only partially showing. The construction of the new lift accessible footbridge is well underway now too! It's very far down the platform though.

LXFlyer

There are plans for a second entrance to the station adjacent to the new footbridge.

Redsoxfan

So does this mean that the Maynooth platform displays will become operational sooner rather than later?

thomasj

Redsoxfan wrote: »

So does this mean that the Maynooth platform displays will become operational sooner rather than later?

Are they not already?

thomasj

ongarboy wrote: »

thomasj wrote: »

Apparently they are up and running now in clonsilla (well the city bound one is)

I stand corrected. They were operational (and with accurate times!) this morning at Clonsilla. I could have missed them yesterday as I legged it to barely make the train. The outbound one looked like it had a fault as information was only partially showing. The construction of the new lift accessible footbridge is well underway now too! It's very far down the platform though.

The outbound screen is missing the clock.

The new shelters are a vast improvements over the old/existing ones. Quiet similar to the ones at drumcondra.

Hilly Bill

ongarboy wrote: »

I stand corrected. They were operational (and with accurate times!) this morning at Clonsilla. I could have missed them yesterday as I legged it to barely make the train. The outbound one looked like it had a fault as information was only partially showing. The construction of the new lift accessible footbridge is well underway now too! It's very far down the platform though.

The lifts are that far down because they are for passengers who get off at the new platform but of course anyone can use them .
There is a new road flyover in the planning stage as well which would cross at the bend just before the hospital and then maybe close the level crossing altogether.

L1011

thomasj wrote: »

Are they not already?

Last time I was in the station they were on, with a message about being out of service, and different times on each platform...

Jehuty42

Hilly Bill wrote: »

The lifts are that far down because they are for passengers who get off at the new platform but of course anyone can use them .
There is a new road flyover in the planning stage as well which would cross at the bend just before the hospital and then maybe close the level crossing altogether.

I hadn't heard of that at all, is that on the Fingal planning site?

L1011

Jehuty42 wrote: »

I hadn't heard of that at all, is that on the Fingal planning site?

More like "planning in IE" stage. Its part of the electrification plan to completely grade seperate the Maynooth line.

Only one I suspect to happen soon may be the Ratoath Road L/C though.

Jehuty42

MYOB wrote: »

Only one I suspect to happen soon may be the Ratoath Road L/C though.

That is going ahead this year I believe, it has planning permission now.

Niles

Better late than never.

I suppose next thing you know and the ones in Kilcoole will be active... :rolleyes:

Yes, there really are ones in Kilcoole, a station which up until a few years ago had a service to Dublin on Saturdays but no return till Monday evening.

n97 mini

Never heard of Kilcoole, till now.

Certainly would win an award for sea views.

Interesting trivia:
a single ticket to Balbriggan, 69 kilometres (43 mi) away, is less than a third of the price of a ticket to Gorey, which is nearer at 64 kilometres (40 mi) away

Redsoxfan

MYOB wrote: »

Last time I was in the station they were on, with a message about being out of service, and different times on each platform...

Seem to be working now, but the time issue may not be fixed.

thomasj

Niles wrote: »

Better late than never.

I suppose next thing you know and the ones in Kilcoole will be active... :rolleyes:

Good luck with that one!

Greystones is not even working and that is a dart station

On a side note anyone know why the heuston side doesnt count down the minutes but shows the times. I think its the same with navan road parkway.

Niles

n97 mini wrote: »

Never heard of Kilcoole, till now.

Certainly would win an award for sea views.

Interesting trivia:
a single ticket to Balbriggan, 69 kilometres (43 mi) away, is less than a third of the price of a ticket to Gorey, which is nearer at 64 kilometres (40 mi) away

Yeah if you're into seascapes it's a pretty nice location.

Actually, Kilcoole was featured in a Meteor ad recently, when your man is listening to the garbled PA announcement on the platform.

What I can't work out is why there are CIS screens there in the first place!

thomasj wrote: »

Good luck with that one!

Greystones is not even working and that is a dart station

Ah now in fairness the one in Greystones displays the very important message "Welcome to Greystones station", it's not like that could be done with an ordinary printed sign or anything.... :rolleyes:

TheChrisD

Displays seemed to be working properly in Clonsilla yesterday evening when I was heading through. Only station that is different is Navan Road Parkway, they didn't get updated to real-time.

thomasj

TheChrisD wrote: »

Displays seemed to be working properly in Clonsilla yesterday evening when I was heading through. Only station that is different is Navan Road Parkway, they didn't get updated to real-time.

Yep the only issue with clonsilla is the lack of clock on the outbound platform.

L1011

TheChrisD wrote: »

Displays seemed to be working properly in Clonsilla yesterday evening when I was heading through. Only station that is different is Navan Road Parkway, they didn't get updated to real-time.

Are they not *all* timetable rather than real time? The only difference being that stations other than NRP are showing countdown to the timetable rather than the clock time.

Drumcondra is RT, though, always has been.

thomasj

MYOB wrote: »

TheChrisD wrote: »

Displays seemed to be working properly in Clonsilla yesterday evening when I was heading through. Only station that is different is Navan Road Parkway, they didn't get updated to real-time.

Are they not *all* timetable rather than real time? The only difference being that stations other than NRP are showing countdown to the timetable rather than the clock time.

Drumcondra is RT, though, always has been.

Dont think so, the website is updating eta times in both directions when trains are late as well as status (ie departed clonsilla, arrived clonsilla) and is accurate.

thomasj

thomasj wrote: »

MYOB wrote: »

TheChrisD wrote: »

Displays seemed to be working properly in Clonsilla yesterday evening when I was heading through. Only station that is different is Navan Road Parkway, they didn't get updated to real-time.

Are they not *all* timetable rather than real time? The only difference being that stations other than NRP are showing countdown to the timetable rather than the clock time.

Drumcondra is RT, though, always has been.

Dont think so, the website is updating eta times in both directions when trains are late as well as status (ie departed clonsilla, arrived clonsilla) and is accurate.

Navan road parkway has now been updated. The train i was on earlier was nearly 20 minutes latr and navan roads (along with the other stations) cis screens was showing it as arrived as opposed to the old system where it would have disappeared off the radar when it got to the scheduled time.

It has also now switched from showing the time the train is scheduled for to showing how many minutes the train is due in and is accurate enough!

L1011

Did Irish Rail suddenly discover the signalling system DID support RT information after a decade and a half then?

thomasj

MYOB wrote: »

Did Irish Rail suddenly discover the signalling system DID support RT information after a decade and a half then?

Would it surprise you if they did?

On the train i was on yesterday a passenger fainted. The train driver came down etc and this in turn had the train in ashtown for another 2-3 minutes increasing the delay. The whole time the train stayed on the board and on the website just as we were about to leave the website showed a status of "arrived ashtown" with the time delay.

This had the m3 parkway train delayed by upto 15 minutes. When we got to clonsilla the cis screen was accounting for the 14 minute delay and an announcement was made saying it was delayed by upto 15 minutes. The train arrived nearly 15 minutes late. Also for the sligo intercity train was cought behind these trains the website was showing "departed coolmine"

Im sure there might be some constraints and we might see this when there are a morning/evening of major delays but otherwise it seems to be working and live im convinced!

LXFlyer

There has been apparently some form of software upgrade that finally allows the signalling system to deliver real time information.

Jehuty42

That's mad, but yes, the screens are very useful and work properly, which is great. It's good that Navan Road has been updated too, hopefully when the new platform at Clonsilla is opened it will also have a functioning screen. Ditto Hansfield. It would just be cruel if they didn't. Does anyone know if there are functioning screens at Dunboyne and M3 Parkway?

n97 mini

lxflyer wrote: »

There has been apparently some form of software upgrade that finally allows the signalling system to deliver real time information.

This has been a software issue all along?

LXFlyer

Well from what I understand (and I don't know the ins and outs of it), but there were serious issues in getting the two systems talking to one another. Somehow that has now finally been resolved.

There may well have been issues with the signalling system in its ability to deliver predictive times also.

TheChrisD

Jehuty42 wrote: »

Does anyone know if there are functioning screens at Dunboyne and M3 Parkway?

I'll have to check next time I'm there, probably Saturday. Last time I went through was before Navan Road was updated, and Dunboyne was on the same system of displaying departure time only.

dublinman1990

lxflyer wrote: »

There has been apparently some form of software upgrade that finally allows the signalling system to deliver real time information.

Is this software update being used on the DART as well as on the Commuter service?

If not, it would be nice to have the system updated on the DART in the future.

devnull

I never had any problems with the DART stations being wrong in the first place, they actually all seem to work, although the one at Drumcondra on the Maynooth line was a bit hit and miss before, regularly services would disappear at their scheduled time but I guess that is now fixed.

What really could be done is fixing the GPS systems on the non German DART's, they never know where they are going, frequently the outer car displays and in thinner ones show something ridiculous and totally different from that they are operating.

The 8100/8300 class PIS seems to be always accurate though.

tubbs26

Are there any good iphone apps that use the real time info like the Dublin Bus App?

donspeekinglesh

The display on the screen on platform 2 in Maynooth is very poor quality. A lot of lines on the display.

L1011

donspeekinglesh wrote: »

The display on the screen on platform 2 in Maynooth is very poor quality. A lot of lines on the display.

Its about a decade or more old and never received any maintenance for most of that period (due to being off).

That won't help...

dublinman1990

MYOB wrote: »

Its about a decade or more old and never received any maintenance for most of that period (due to being off).

That won't help...

Same thing happened in Tara Street this evening. Before I got on a southbound DART, I noticed one of the displays had unusual jumbled language mainly due to a technical fault.

The clock also said 02:21am; even though it was 8 o'clock at night. :rolleyes:

The rest of the displays at other stops worked fine.