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13-02-2012 11:32pm#1
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johnnyskeleton wrote: »Well you are entitled to your opinion and I think you should drink whatever you like however you like. I hate the preachy narrow view that whiskey should be drunk in only one way ie with room temp water for everyone. But that is also the same orthodoxy that single malt = good blend = bad and discourages experimentation.
The thing I like about whiskey is the endless variety of ways one can drink it. Again "interferes too much with the flavours" is so nebulous. Water and ice in different quantities and neat all serve to highlight different flavours. For example, a small amount of ice in a rb 12 will bring out the vanilla, oak and sweet oils. You can also let it warm up again on your tongue and let the peppery flavours build up slowly.
But you know if someone has told you that usually a drop of room temp water is the standard way of tasting whiskey you should take that as gospel and never adapt your tasting habits. Otherwise, Richard Paterson might poke yer eyes out
Well I wasn't being preachy, I'm just stating the fact that if you put ice on your drink it will interfere with the flavour and dilute the drink.
I'm not saying you can only drink it one way, but you will get more from the drink if you attempt to taste it rather than try to mask the taste by making it extremely cold.
It's the same with beer, you can make the most horrible beer palatable if you make it cold enough but you are missing out on a lot of the flavour when you do that.
I also never mentioned anything about blends being inferior to single malts but you obviously like putting words in my mouth.
I have to disagree that ice will bring out vanilla, oak and sweet oils. If anything that particular whiskey is at its best without any water, but each to their own I guess.
I find your last paragraph very condescending and insulting, I don't take anything as gospel and its not a case of being told what's right or wrong, it's just happens to be what works best. Also I don't know who Richard Paterson is
As I said before nothing wrong with throwing a bit of ice into the cheaper whiskeys put if you have a decent dram I don't think its for the best. But at the end of the day if that's what floats your boat go for it, I think its a bit of a waste.0 -
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Well I wasn't being preachy, I'm just stating the fact that if you put ice on your drink it will interfere with the flavour and dilute the drink.
As will water, which you advocate.I'm not saying you can only drink it one way, but you will get more from the drink if you attempt to taste it rather than try to mask the taste by making it extremely cold.
Ice doesn't mask the taste, it changes it. Usually it will mask the harsher flavours giving rise to the more subtle flavours. I fail to see how suggesting that you should try each whiskey in a number of different ways is failing to attempt to taste the whiskey. If anything, you learn a whole lot more about whisky by trying it in a number of different ways, side by side.It's the same with beer, you can make the most horrible beer palatable if you make it cold enough but you are missing out on a lot of the flavour when you do that.
Are you suggesting therefore that all cold beers taste the same and all warm beers taste different? Or perhaps that the only way to drink beer is to drink it warm? I can't agree with that. You shouldn't go on what people tell you the correct way to drink something is, you should adapt it and see what you like.I also never mentioned anything about blends being inferior to single malts but you obviously like putting words in my mouth.
I didn't say that you did, but you were alluding to the inferiority of blends when you suggested that ice should be used in cheap blends. It's a fairly common misconception that single malts are superior to blends, just as it is that ice in whiskey is a bad thing. It might often be the case, but to simply dismiss it is in my view a common but unfortunate view.I have to disagree that ice will bring out vanilla, oak and sweet oils. If anything that particular whiskey is at its best without any water, but each to their own I guess.
Have you tried it with ice? Have you tried neat, watered and iced red breast side to side?I find your last paragraph very condescending and insulting, I don't take anything as gospel and its not a case of being told what's right or wrong, it's just happens to be what works best. Also I don't know who Richard Paterson is
Not always and not for everyone. I find it ironic that you think my views are condescending when I, unlike you, make no claims to any one way of tasting whiskey as being better than another. Particularly when my comments were in response to someone who suggested that cold was the "enemy" of taste.As I said before nothing wrong with throwing a bit of ice into the cheaper whiskeys put if you have a decent dram I don't think its for the best. But at the end of the day if that's what floats your boat go for it, I think its a bit of a waste.
Again, your view seems to be that there is only one way to drink "a decent dram" yet my views are condescending? All I'm saying is that you should try a number of different whiskies in a number of different ways without any preconception of what is the correct way to drink a "decent dram". If people approach whiskey with an open mind, they will often find many surprises.0 -
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