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Another Mossad false flag as Israeli diplomats targeted in bomb attacks.

  • 13-02-2012 8:48pm
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    "The Israel embassies in India and Georgia have been targeted by bomb attacks, with one bomb going off in New Delhi and injuring two people, and the second device in Tbilisi defused.

    In New Delhi, the wife of an Israeli diplomat was injured when an embassy car exploded. The woman succeeded in getting to the Israeli embassy from where she was transferred to a nearby hospital.

    The Israeli ambassador to India was not hurt in the New Delhi attack.

    In the second attack, a Georgian national working for the Israeli embassy in the capital city of Tbilisi discovered a bomb underneath his car during his drive to the embassy. The bomb was defused before exploding"
    .

    Yeah, Iran carried out an assassination attempt in India after India had pledged to continuing buying their crude. This is obviously another CIA and Mossad False Flag to stop India purchasing Iranian crude and Mossad trying to instigate a war with Iran.

    ''You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time''. Abraham Lincoln

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/226468.html


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  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Thanks for sharing. I had no idea. Hope the injured make full recoveries and they catch whoever did it.

    This is from the New York Times just two days ago. What are the chances...?
    India Defends Oil Purchases From Iran


    India’s determination to continue buying Iranian oil, despite sanctions and growing political pressure from the United States and Europe, has frustrated officials in Washington at a time when the forward momentum in the United States-India relationship has slowed, with differences over issues including civil nuclear cooperation, trade protectionism and military sales.



    The situation was exacerbated last week by news reports that India had become Iran’s top oil customer, while an Indian official announced plans to send a trade delegation to Tehran. In New Delhi, diplomats and analysts say India’s purchasing of Iranian oil is a matter of economic necessity, given its dependence on imported oil. Some say the purchases also represent diplomatic hedging in a region bracing for the withdrawal of American troops from Afghanistan by 2014, or possibly sooner.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/world/asia/india-trumpets-ties-with-us-amid-iran-oil-deal.html?_r=2&scp=1&sq=India%20Iran&st=cse




  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Another point of interest is the war propaganda that was released last week by a totally discredited Iranian shill who claims he was part of the Revolutionary Guard. He falsely claimed that that the Ayatollah gave orders to annihilate Jews.

    His claims are taken apart by Iranian native and Farsi speaking Muhammed Sahimi in the interview below.
    Muhammad Sahimi, Professor of Chemical Engineering and political columnist on Iran issues, discusses the latest anti-Iran talking point from World Net Daily and serial propagandist Reza Kahlili (“Ayatollah: Kill all Jews, annihilate Israel“); what Alireza Forghani, the blogger in question, really said about Israel and preemptive strikes; and why many Americans want to believe every anti-Muslim propaganda piece they see.

    MP3 here. (20:48)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99




  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Israeli couple suspected of being agents, to be deported
    Ajay Kanth, TNN Feb 7, 2012, 03.35AM IST
    Indian agencies will question two suspected Israeli agents before they are deported. "We have traced the couple's financial transactions. Preliminary investigations suggest similar Israelis are camping in various parts of the country," an official said.


    Duo were under lens
    In their report, the state intelligence department said a group of people turned up at the couple's rented house regularly and held meetings.
    "These meetings lasted for hours in the night. They were under close surveillance".
    http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-02-07/india/31033186_1_israeli-couple-multiple-entry-visa


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Compare the methods of the terrorists in these two:

    The bomb attack in India:
    NEW DELHI: The bomb that gutted an Israel embassy car close to the prime minister's residence on Monday was of an advanced type not used before in the city. While investigators described it as a 'low intensity incendiary device', a senior police official told TOI, "The bomb was perfectly made and we have never seen such a bomb in Delhi. Maybe, it was made by foreign experts".

    The lone eyewitness in the case, Gopal, told investigators he saw a man on a motorbike stick a large object to the Toyota Innova's tailgate. After assessing the damage caused by the bomb, experts estimated it to be the size of an executive diary. They said it had been stuck to the car with a magnet and was probably actuated by remote control, as it exploded within seconds of the biker's pushing off. '
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/Israeli-diplomats-car-attacked-Bomber-knew-area-evaded-CCTV/articleshow/11878743.cms

    The Israeli-MEK terrorists in Iran
    Deadly attacks on Iranian nuclear scientists are being carried out by an Iranian dissidentgroup that is financed, trained and armed by Israel’s secret service, U.S. officials tell NBC News, confirming charges leveled by Iran’s leaders. ROCK CENTER EXCLUSIVE


    The group, the People’s Mujahedin of Iran, has long been designated as a terrorist group by the United States, accused of killing American servicemen and contractors in the 1970s and supporting the takeover of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran before breaking with the Iranian mullahs in 1980.


    The attacks, which have killed five Iranian nuclear scientists since 2007 and may have destroyed a missile research and development site, have been carried out in dramatic fashion, with motorcycle-borne assailants often attaching small magnetic bombs to the exterior of the victims’ cars.
    http://rockcenter.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/08/10354553-israel-teams-with-terror-group-to-kill-irans-nuclear-scientists-us-officials-tell-nbc-news


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,731 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Posts deleted. Discuss the topic at hand or stay out of the thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    I was meant to post about this yesterday, but didn't get a chance. Very convenient timing since Iran backed down from the threats and seems to averted war. As said above, it seems insane for Iran to threaten their own dealings with India for petty revenge.

    But this would seem a poor excuse for invasion on it's own. If it's a US/Israeli false flag, could we be expecting another, more impactful one soon? For example, one on US soil would easily be used as the reason to attack Iran.

    Then again, could it have been an actual attack by Iran? As said, it would be strange to risk their diplomaic ties, but Iran isn't really known for ration reactions. Or maybe it's a false false flag? Iran carried out the bombings, gambling that the world at large will assume that Mossad/CIA are behind it and so helping to loosen support for any potential war?

    Stranger things have happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Tzar Chasm


    I dunno, I find it a little Suspect that the Israeli's are able to point the finger of blame with such confidence at Iran before the dust has even settled.

    what do we know of the individuals who were Injured or Targeted?

    Very little it would seem, one was the Wife of an Embassy employee and the other was an Non Israeli embasy employee, Very low level targets, would seem hardly worth the effort if it was Iranian retlaiation for Murdered Scientists.

    this one does seem to have the marks of a Flase Flag operation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Tzar Chasm


    Another 'attack' in Thailand
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17026007

    in fairness this one is a bit more Keystone Cops than well oiled murder machine.

    Does this seem a bit odd to anyone else, the guy threw a bomb at a Taxi that didnt stop for him and then blew himself up when trying to bomb the police.

    if the guy was Iranian and not just traveling on forged papers then I doubt that he was either Iraninan Inteligence or Mossad, I couldnt believe that anyone selected and trained for covert operations could be that Stupid.

    wasnt there mention of some group of idiots recruited by he CIA to cary out covert operations in Iran a while ago, something todo with a Texan used car Salesman and some Mexican Drug Cartel??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    humanji wrote: »
    But this would seem a poor excuse for invasion on it's own. If it's a US/Israeli false flag, could we be expecting another, more impactful one soon? For example, one on US soil would easily be used as the reason to attack Iran.
    .
    Like blowing up a US or British warship out of the water in the Persian Gulf, this is very much a possibility.


    Looks like another one: "Iranian bomber blows off his legs in Bangkok as grenade he hurled at police bounces off tree and explodes at his feet" Iranian because an Iranian ID card was found in the area of the blast. :rolleyes:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2100917/Iranian-legs-blown-Bangkok-bomb-blast-tries-plant-explosive-outside-school.html


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  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    humanji wrote: »
    I was meant to post about this yesterday, but didn't get a chance. Very convenient timing since Iran backed down from the threats and seems to averted war. As said above, it seems insane for Iran to threaten their own dealings with India for petty revenge.

    But this would seem a poor excuse for invasion on it's own. If it's a US/Israeli false flag, could we be expecting another, more impactful one soon? For example, one on US soil would easily be used as the reason to attack Iran.

    Then again, could it have been an actual attack by Iran? As said, it would be strange to risk their diplomaic ties, but Iran isn't really known for ration reactions. Or maybe it's a false false flag? Iran carried out the bombings, gambling that the world at large will assume that Mossad/CIA are behind it and so helping to loosen support for any potential war?

    Stranger things have happened.

    This would be my view too, more or less. Though I do think you overestimate the irrationality of Iran, I think their responses to years of provocation and threats has been pragmatic. Though I don't think it can be absolutely ruled out that it was Iran, or nationalistic rouge elements within the Revolutionary Guard. It really would be a case of cutting of your nose to spite your face if ever there was one though. I am highly sceptical of this.

    More likely than this I would say is that it was Pakistan's ISI. They, like Israel are no strangers to terror by proxy and it's a win-win situation for them. We know about India's need for cheap Iranian oil and they are also huge importers of Israeli arms. Creating tension between their Sworn enemy India and two of it's main trading partners would be a desirable outcome for the ISI. Though they do have more pressing domestic concerns at present and would be taking a huge risk, causing friction between themselves and Israel, India, The US and Iran.

    An outside bet would be the Saudi's and their Gulf monarchy allies who would like to see Iran destroyed almost as much as Israel would.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Iranian because an Iranian ID card was found in the area of the blast. :rolleyes:
    MEK or Jundullah members, two terrorists organisations used by Israel would both have Iranian ID's.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Attacks on Israeli embassies, false flag ops: Iran M

    "The Israeli regime has carried out the recent attacks against the staff of its embassies in India and Georgia in an attempt to spearhead a psychological war against Iran, a senior Iranian lawmaker says".

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/226622.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Jaafa


    If it was Iran that did it, they would be taking a massive massive risk.

    1. It would give Israel an excuse to attack them (something they have gone to great lengths to avoid)
    2. It would damage relations with India,one of their few allies on the oil issue at the moment.

    If Iran was willing to take such risk's then why not go all the way and actually wait till the Israelis are in the cars before attacking? Mossad really is becoming audacious being so blatantly obvious in this false flag.

    And as pointed out above the kind of device used as well as the fact that two Israeli agents were arrested, shows this was almost certainly a (sloppy) false flag by Mossad. Then again the other options of the ISI or One of the Gulf countries is plausible too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    This is obviously another CIA and Mossad False Flag

    Is there anything they aren't responsible for?


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    c_man wrote: »
    Is there anything they aren't responsible for?
    The Boer Wars.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Jaafa wrote: »
    If it was Iran that did it, they would be taking a massive massive risk.

    1. It would give Israel an excuse to attack them (something they have gone to great lengths to avoid)
    2. It would damage relations with India,one of their few allies on the oil issue at the moment.

    If Iran was willing to take such risk's then why not go all the way and actually wait till the Israelis are in the cars before attacking? Mossad really is becoming audacious being so blatantly obvious in this false flag.

    And as pointed out above the kind of device used as well as the fact that two Israeli agents were arrested, shows this was almost certainly a (sloppy) false flag by Mossad. Then again the other options of the ISI or One of the Gulf countries is plausible too.

    Jaafa I value your opinion on this. You seem well informed and quite capable of cutting through the bull**** on the media spin. What would be your opinion on the Iranian scientists being taken out by Mossad being purely as a pretext to this? Sporadically assasinating random scientists would have little to no real effect on any supposed nuclear arms programme. What it does do is a) act as a provocation that may lead to Iran striking out and failing that b) Creates enough media blather and spin to engineer a situation where it is conceivable that Iran did strike out as a response in a Mossad false-flag framing Iran.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Mossad's chief Tamir Pardo was in India just days before the attacks.
    'Times of India' reports Pardo visited India days before Delhi terror attack, thought Israelis in India were safe.

    http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?ID=258102&R=R1

    Reportedly Pardo is to blame for the recent murder of Iranian scientists.
    German weekly Der Spiegel, quoting an Israeli intelligence source, says last week's shooting was first 'public operation' orchestrated by Tamit Prado.

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/report-israel-s-new-mossad-chief-behind-assassination-of-iran-nuclear-scientist-1.376567

    Pardo is a veteran of Entebbe, which may have been a false-flag operation itself.
    But newly released documents contain a claim that the 1976 rescue of hostages, kidnapped on an Air France flight and held in Entebbe in Uganda, was not all it seemed.

    A UK government file on the crisis, released from the National Archives, contains a claim that Israel itself was behind the hijacking.
    An unnamed contact from the Euro-Arab Parliamentary Association told a British diplomat in Paris that the Israeli Secret Service, the Shin Bet, and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) collaborated to seize the plane
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6710289.stm


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    India's counter terrorism unit The National Security Guard have been banned from the investigating and taking sampes from the car.
    New Delhi, Feb. 15: The National Security Guard (NSG) was not allowed to gather forensic samples from the Israel embassy car blast site near the Prime Minister’s house on Monday because of “some diplomatic reasons”, a senior official said today.

    The disclosure came on a day an Israeli team, including Mossad officials, met Indian investigators and provided inputs, including a suggestion that a local module could have used a magnetic bomb supplied from abroad.

    “It was very weird that our post-blast study team was not allowed to visit the site and gather samples, citing some diplomatic reasons. Our experts, whose only job is to study and conduct research based on collected samples, were denied this opportunity,” the official added.

    The NSG’s National Bomb Data Centre (NBDC) is the nodal agency for analysing and recording all bombings in the country and it acts as the repository for research and study.

    Since its inception in 2003, its sleuths have gathered samples from all the blast sites in the country. “Our team collected samples from all the blast sites over the past nine years. It is really sad that it was not allowed to do so despite having its office in Delhi,” the official said.
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/NSG-denied-not-to-visit-terror-hit-car/articleshow/11908391.cms


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Jaafa


    Jaafa I value your opinion on this. You seem well informed and quite capable of cutting through the bull**** on the media spin. What would be your opinion on the Iranian scientists being taken out by Mossad being purely as a pretext to this? Sporadically assasinating random scientists would have little to no real effect on any supposed nuclear arms programme. What it does do is a) act as a provocation that may lead to Iran striking out and failing that b) Creates enough media blather and spin to engineer a situation where it is conceivable that Iran did strike out as a response in a Mossad false-flag framing Iran.

    I think the attacks on Iranian scientists are the result of certain people in the Israeli intelligence/military wanting to act instead of sitting back and waiting for Iran to get a 'nuke'. IMO the hit's temporarily satisfy those who are calling for all out war with Iran, despite the fact their effectiveness at actually slowing the nuclear program is arguable. The points a and b you make are certainly factors but secondary to this and thought more of a bonus IMO.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Mossad chief visited New Delhi days before attack on Israeli officials

    "Mossad chief Tamir Pardo visited New Delhi just days before an attack on Israeli officials in the Indian capital this week, Indian media reported on Thursday, highlighting the extent to which Israeli intelligence was in the dark regarding possibility of a terror attack taking place in the country".

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/report-mossad-chief-visited-new-delhi-days-before-attack-on-israeli-officials-1.413260


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