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Wiring of replacement Hob

  • 13-02-2012 11:00am
    #1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,468 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Hi all,

    Am looking to replace a solid plate built in hob with an induction hob.
    The hob is 7.2kw.
    Below the hob is a built in oven, the hob and the oven have separate feeds to an oven isolator switch which I had freshly wired back to the mains about a decade ago.

    As the wiring is already in place I would imagine I can disconnect existing hob and wire up replacement myself, however would appreciate any guidance on perhaps something I have not thought about.

    This is the guy I'm looking at.

    Cheers


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,824 ✭✭✭meercat


    should be straight forward enough
    sometimes there are little (copper links)which have to be inserted across the connector block on the hob

    when you say seperate feeds to an isolator,i assume you mean 1 isolator switch
    if both your oven and hob are fully operational you may overload your 32a mcb
    this generally will not happen very often however
    in some installations,a separate supply is installed for the hob and the oven


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,468 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    meercat wrote: »
    when you say seperate feeds to an isolator,i assume you mean 1 isolator switch

    Correct, I have one isolator switch positioned next to the hob and oven and it controls both

    meercat wrote: »
    if both your oven and hob are fully operational you may overload your 32a mcb
    this generally will not happen very often however

    I assume this is all 4 rings on and oven too, don't think that's ever been the case. Is there a visual check I could do at the MCB to verify amp rating?
    meercat wrote: »
    in some installations,a separate supply is installed for the hob and the oven

    With foresight this could have been done, however with subsequent construction this is simply now impossible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,824 ✭✭✭meercat


    straightforward so
    just the links to insert on connector blocks(if applicable)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭sparcocars


    As meercat said straightforward job.

    1: Isolate supply at MCB in fuse board.
    2: Test there is no supply at the switch.
    3: Remove old hob and install new one ensuring correct wire to correct terminal and good tight connections.
    4: Turn supply back on.

    JOB DONE!!!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,468 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Just checked the existing hob and it has a 6kw rating


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,824 ✭✭✭meercat


    slave1 wrote: »
    Just checked the existing hob and it has a 6kw rating

    you probably should be ok
    usually a" diversity factor "is taken into account given that it is unlikely that everything will be switched on full at the same time
    as sparcocars said
    make sure power is off and connections are tight

    if you are unsure,then ask a competent electrician


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,468 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Picked up the hob last night but too late to fit by the time I got home.
    One small complication, the existing hob has the electrical feed directly into a chamber in the underside of the hob i.e. no lead coming from existing hob.
    The new hob has a lead coming from it so it it just a case of using a simple connector (5 wires on the hob lead) with some electrical tape or because it's a hob is there any special connecting apparatus I should use?
    Excuse the non-technical electrical jargon and thanks again for assistance to date.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,824 ✭✭✭meercat


    My advice Is to leave the lead on it and get a 32amp junction box from your electrical wholesaler
    The 5 wires may be marked already
    I suspect 2 neutrals and 2 lives doubled up and an earth connection(pic would help)


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,468 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    You are correct, 2 neutrals and 2 lives doubled up and an earth connection is the cable coming from the new hob.
    I'll pick up a 32amp junction box so.
    Excuse the general ignorance but is this the lad I'm looking for..

    ASJ803.JPG


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee


    the 'maintenance free' junction box seems to be popular in the uk for joints in edit( in)accessible areas

    i think the rules allow them here as well-but i'd have to check?

    they would be handy an odd time for mf ceiling grids and the like

    not an issue here anyway as behind the hob is accessible


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,468 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    In work so can't upload a picture at the minute but picked one up at lunchtime, it looks like this one.
    Has BS 6220 250V~30A note on the back of it, can't open it because don't have screwdriver to hand.

    2821_resize.JPG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,824 ✭✭✭meercat


    slave1 wrote: »
    In work so can't upload a picture at the minute but picked one up at lunchtime, it looks like this one.
    Has BS 6220 250V~30A note on the back of it, can't open it because don't have screwdriver to hand.

    2821_resize.JPG

    that should be ideal


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,468 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Thanks guys, the electrics proved much more straightforward than the fitting, the opening in the counter top was slightly too big and it's always a fecker taking just wee bits off such a deep piece of wood so took some time.
    Then the oven was 'bumping' into the bottom of the hob so I had to take all out and drop the support for the oven, thankfully I had a small drawer under the oven so I had the room to drop this, unfortunately the drawer was only 3.5 inches high so it was a nightmare taking the 6 plastic 'block' supports out and even worse putting new ones in because I would only fit my hand and a stub screwdriver in and had to reach right to the back of the drawer support so was well stretched. Without the woodwork complications it probably would have taken 30-45 minutes, in the end took just under 4 hours!
    Anyhow, job done, there's a fan on these hobs (induction) so the noise level increases but it's a considerable improvement when compared to a decade old 'slow to respond' plate hob.


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