Wargame: European Escalation

flynnlives

anyone interested in this game?
out the end of this month.

Looks like a more tactical version of world in conflict mixed with RUSE

pixelburp

Never heard of it until today - maybe I'm missing something but this looks almost identical to World in Conflict?

flynnlives

from what ive read they are an indie developer

Skerries

pixelburp wrote: »

Never heard of it until today - maybe I'm missing something but this looks almost identical to World in Conflict?

and thats a bad thing?

pixelburp

Skerries wrote: »

and thats a bad thing?

No, but they could at least pretend they've got an original bone in their body

Fanny Cradock

The tanks and troops look like they are travelling about 200mph. It might turn out to be good but my first thought was that it all looks a little sterile.

Sephiroth_dude

Whens it out?

flynnlives

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

Whens it out?

Supposedly the end of this month

pixelburp

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

Whens it out?

Steam says 23rd February, and selling for 39 quid. To be fair it looks half decent, although looking into their map-control methodology reminded me of Company of Heroes. Man I miss that game

Stev_o

Right so iv been keeping a semi close eye on this game and im very impressed by some of the beta footage coming out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVeNnQT7uF4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLzBOYLdKd8

Sephiroth_dude

pixelburp wrote: »

Steam says 23rd February, and selling for 39 quid. To be fair it looks half decent, although looking into their map-control methodology reminded me of Company of Heroes. Man I miss that game

you don't play anymore?

I'm tempted to get it but I'm getting the vita next week :-/

pixelburp

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

you don't play anymore?

I'm tempted to get it but I'm getting the vita next week :-/

Naw, haven't played it in ages and ages. Downloaded the (very excellent) Eastern Front mod, but that's about it. Just got out of the habit really, miss the game; it really was/is quality.

Sod'o swords

Saw this the other day, quite looking forward to it. It seems to be World In Conflict just on a grander stage.

Stev_o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-9HgHxZ5nY

Haha definitely picking up this game!

Sephiroth_dude

Any reviews out yet?

Stev_o

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

Any reviews out yet?

Nope not out officially till Thursday and everything about it seems to be quite low key. Im hoping we can get a WTF on it soon enough.

Sephiroth_dude

Stev_o wrote: »

Nope not out officially till Thursday and everything about it seems to be quite low key. Im hoping we can get a WTF on it soon enough.

Is it a steam only release?because I rang up game and gamestop,they said they weren't getting it in and none of the online retailers seem to have it up for pre order

Stev_o

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

Is it a steam only release?because I rang up game and gamestop,they said they weren't getting it in and none of the online retailers seem to have it up for pre order

I think it requires Steam, you can pick it up on other digital retailers. Don't know about any box copies being available.

flynnlives

just found this pseudo review of the beta and its not looking good
http://thegameguru.me/2012/02/20/4-days-from-wargame-european-escalation-launch/

pixelburp

Stev_o wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-9HgHxZ5nY

Haha definitely picking up this game!

Uh, I know that's meant to be an arsing-about video, but from that it looks more like Clusterf*ck: The Game. It looks terrible.

Stev_o

pixelburp wrote: »

Uh, I know that's meant to be an arsing-about video, but from that it looks more like Clusterf*ck: The Game. It looks terrible.

You have a 3v3 game where one both teams converge into one massive blob in the centre of the map what did you expect?

pixelburp

Stev_o wrote: »

You have a 3v3 game where one both teams converge into one massive blob in the centre of the map what did you expect?

Like I said, it's meant to be an arsing about video, but looking around that, the game seems like a bit of a mixed bag & a bit of a mess. Will wait and see though

Stev_o

pixelburp wrote: »

Like I said, it's meant to be an arsing about video, but looking around that, the game seems like a bit of a mixed bag & a bit of a mess. Will wait and see though

It's in the same vein as Total War and most comparisons of the game are being to TW which suffered from the same "mess". If your a finky micro player im sure it would annoy you.

VinLieger

flynnlives wrote: »

just found this pseudo review of the beta and its not looking good
http://thegameguru.me/2012/02/20/4-days-from-wargame-european-escalation-launch/

Cheers for that, was waiting for a few reviews to pop up before buying it but that has me seriously 2nd guessing it. The bugs i can live with but the unit number problems and unbalanced stuff sounds ridiculous

Mavvvy

I'm quite enjoying this, unit placement matters, and recon is key. The choice of units is crazy, however as said before some of them need to be repriced in terms of points for balance reasons.

Supply is hugely important also, you have to be mindful where you deploy the bulk of your forces so you dont get cut-off from your supply trucks.

The only thing this game has in common with world in conflict is the 1980's era, its more of a x-breed of ruse and close combat in my opinion.

Stev_o

Mavvvy wrote: »

I'm quite enjoying this, unit placement matters, and recon is key. The choice of units is crazy, however as said before some of them need to be repriced in terms of points for balance reasons.

Supply is hugely important also, you have to be mindful where you deploy the bulk of your forces so you dont get cut-off from your supply trucks.

The only thing this game has in common with world in conflict is the 1980's era, its more of a x-breed of ruse and close combat in my opinion.

I know it's only beta but how did you find the match making system?

Mavvvy

Stev_o wrote: »

I know it's only beta but how did you find the match making system?

No one seems to use the match-making system presently, i'm not sure if that's because it's poo or just people prefer hosting customs.

Stev_o

Picked this up today and im very impressed with it. The game runs extremely well when I honestly thought id be struggling but it seems this is a full optimised game for the PC. The single player campaign missions are fun so far. My only problem so far with it is that the deck management screen is quite awful to look at and understand going to have to read the manual to figure out what exactly is going on!

Sephiroth_dude

where did you get it and how much?

Stev_o

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

where did you get it and how much?

40 quid from Steam. Don't know where else you can get it.

Sephiroth_dude

Ya i think you can only get it from online retailers

Sephiroth_dude

so Is it worth the 40 euro price tag?is the single player campaign anygood?

Stev_o

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

so Is it worth the 40 euro price tag?is the single player campaign anygood?

http://www.ultimatumgamekeys.com/en/game/buy-cheap-wargame-european-escalation-game-steam-cd-key

Grab it there for 25 something if you don't want to spend 40 quid.

It's a great game with good depth to it and if your a military nut you ll love the amount of units in it.

SinglePlayer has 20 odd missions and **** me are they tough the AI in this game is ruthless.
My post on the RPS forums.

I was actually quite surprised by the AI. They do a bit of everything and actually feel quite competent using their troops. Iv had Russians zerg me with MI24s then fall back as they see my AA hammer at them only for them to then unleash some tanks and BRDS to test my defences. They also love to flank on a large scale! Personally I love using infantry which may seem odd to some players who feel that you need to be all armour to get anywhere but the flexibility you obtain with saying send two squads of SAS up onto a key strategic location (obviously a forest!) and being able to harass enemy movements is just great!

The game pretty much feels like an open book in it's way of approaching battles and I like that. Now need to build a NATO deck that suits me, fast movement with precise hitting.

On my first ranked game I scouted well with Gazelles (though I know they aren't great recon units it's just a bad habit of mine) and was able to locate my enemy's main force in a northern capture zone. With this information I moved my main force to his east through forests and managed to burst through destroying his force there and then. That's when I learned my first lesson, don't push too hard if you can't see what is ahead of you and when you have to resupply. Unwisely I pushed ahead hoping to get a quick victory getting into his FOB and destroying it, sadly I was met with a Hind spam (which I dealt with quite well) and finally some T-54s did the most damage to my force. I retreated to the area I had just captured and tried to regroup. Then I learned another hard lesson, infantry in forests vs armour = world of pain. Lost 4 Leopards due to my incompetence in unit placement. Eventually he won on points difference (1500 to my 1400 something). I dominated in control points taken but this seemed to account for nothing!

Sephiroth_dude

Thanks for the website,do they email you the key straight away as soon as you pay or do you actually have to wait 48hrs?

Doesn't seem to any reviews about.

Stev_o

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

Thanks for the website,do they email you the key straight away as soon as you pay or do you actually have to wait 48hrs?

Doesn't seem to any reviews about.

Email it within 30 mins I think.

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2565433

Sephiroth_dude

might get it during the week so

Sisko

Been waiting for a game exactly like this.

Stev_o

God damn single player, some of the missions infuriate me and Peace Treaty really takes the biscuit!!

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197978179782/screenshot/506891565260176334

Sisko

Fun though?

Stev_o

Sisko wrote: »

Fun though?

Yeah it's fun being a challenge. Online with others either goes well or horribly bad depending on if your partner has a clue what is going on and can quickly react to things happening on the battlefield.

Sisko

Whats it like compared to Ruse? (assuming you've played it)

Stev_o

Sisko wrote: »

Whats it like compared to Ruse? (assuming you've played it)

No I haven't played RUSE. It feels almost like a Total War game (ie the battles) mixed with Supreme Commander mixed with CoH.

bizmark

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

Thanks for the website,do they email you the key straight away as soon as you pay or do you actually have to wait 48hrs?

Doesn't seem to any reviews about.

Tryed these guys just today as i couldn't find batman arkham city in town and i couldn't be arsed paying 50 for it on steam plus reviews seem positive was an easy experience took 40mins from payment to cd key which im now downloading from steam happy out assuming my photo id isn't used by some Israelite spy to kill Iranian nuclear scientists or my bank account goes missing

longwhitecross+

Got this game yesterday after seeing the reviews out.

At first I found it to be a bit sterile, in presentation atleast i'd say it is definately.

Once ingame and hearing autocannons going off I got goosebumps Playing away online now but it's not easy against people who've been around in the beta. You definately have to read the forums to catch up a bit on unit info etc.

One thing I have noticed tho is there isn't (atleast at this point) issues with hosts kicking you for being a low level, as i've found in games in the past.

Ingame name is whitecross.ie , add me to friends