UK import for my wife

LFC Murphy

Hi folks,

I'm importing a car for my wife next week and just have a question about the V5 when I pick it up.

My wife will be the registered owner in Ireland so how does this work. Will I have to sign the V5 when I pickup in the UK. And if so, will it affect my wife registering it as hers.

Thanks

sean1141

afaik they give you the v5 but send one little bit to the dvla to show the car was permentaly exported. you then give the v5 to the revenu when paying the vrt. it could be slightly different now.

LFC Murphy

So i wont have to sign it. Just take it with me. I presume the bit they sign is torn out and sent to the dvla.

sean1141

yup think thats it. she might need to be present to register it when paying the vrt do..
have a look at this

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=1792614

number_1

LFC Murphy wrote: »

Hi folks,

I'm importing a car for my wife next week and just have a question about the V5 when I pick it up.

My wife will be the registered owner in Ireland so how does this work. Will I have to sign the V5 when I pickup in the UK. And if so, will it affect my wife registering it as hers.

Thanks

When registering the car here you require a full V5 in your name. The staff in the NCT centre (where you register the car) will not accept the detachable slip at the bottom of the V5 form saying the car was sold to you. Well, they wouldn't accept it when I went to register a car there with that part of the form. They told me to come back when I had the full form issued by the DVLA in the new owner's name. In order to have the new form issued the old one will need to be signed by the person buying the car and then sent to the DVLA.

To keep the administrative hurdles to a minimum (assuming your wife isn't picking up the car with you), register the car initially in your name in Ireland. The UK documentation will all be in your name as you will be signing the forms yourself. It is then a simple matter of transferring ownership to your wife when the VRC is issued to you.

Anan1

LFC Murphy wrote: »

So i wont have to sign it. Just take it with me. I presume the bit they sign is torn out and sent to the dvla.

That's right. Make sure to have this agreed with the seller before you travel - many UK owners are unaware that it's ok to give you the full V5. If they have any reservations have them ring the DVLA to confirm, again before you travel.

Marcusm

Anan1 wrote: »

That's right. Make sure to have this agreed with the seller before you travel - many UK owners are unaware that it's ok to give you the full V5. If they have any reservations have them ring the DVLA to confirm, again before you travel.

The full v5 should be provided to you and the current UK owner need ony send a letter to Swansea. You should print off the PDF belw ad direct the seller to the bit on page 8 which will confirm to him that it's the right thing to do. This doc would have been sent to him/her with the original v5 as well.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/@motor/documents/digitalasset/dg_065264.pdf

LFC Murphy

Its a dealer so gonna ring them to confirm

LFC Murphy

Dealer is happy enough.

Now to decide to tax the car for the 3 hour journey from Leeds to Holyhead. Leaning towards no, but don't want the car taken off me on a Saturday afternoon

bazz26

LFC Murphy wrote: »

Dealer is happy enough.

Now to decide to tax the car for the 3 hour journey from Leeds to Holyhead. Leaning towards no, but don't want the car taken off me on a Saturday afternoon

Most dealers in the UK will not let the car leave their premises without having valid tax on it by law afaik. Even if they do I'd doubt you will travel 3 hours on the UK road network without being pulled over at least once. They have ANPR cameras everywhere over there. I'd get the dealer to tax it for the sake of the agro.

MidlandsM

also op, ask the dealer what way of payment they want. UK cash laundering laws prevent many from taking cash these days, well the larger franchises anyways.

LFC Murphy

Gonna use bank transfer. Over in the UK working for a few days.

And to be fair to the dealer, he questioned me about the tax. I said if I choose not to then its on my head. How much to tax, can it be done.for 3 months. And is the a possibility of it being refunded

corktina

you will need a UK address to get a tax refund.

If you were taking cash,you have no problem so long as you also have proof of where it came from (ie from the Bank). You should declare it at Customs if it's a large amount.

I doubt you can tax the car without UK insurance (I expect the Dealer can though)

I doubt you will get the car seized for no tax (insurance and MoT is a different matter). If you can proove you just bought it and haven't been able to tax it yet, you should be OK

LFC Murphy

corktina wrote: »

I doubt you will get the car seized for no tax (insurance and MoT is a different matter). If you can proove you just bought it and haven't been able to tax it yet, you should be OK

The "should be ok" is what worries me. What's the worst that can happen. I'm driving on Sat at 12pm and have a 9pm ferry. A fine I can accept but could it be impounded and has it been done to anyone here

CiniO

number_1 wrote: »

When registering the car here you require a full V5 in your name.

That's very misleading information.
First of all there is no need for V5C to be in your name. In the name of previous owner is fine.
Secondly, it's actually impossible to get V5C in the name of person who is not resident in UK.

number_1

CiniO wrote: »

That's very misleading information.
First of all there is no need for V5C to be in your name. In the name of previous owner is fine.
Secondly, it's actually impossible to get V5C in the name of person who is not resident in UK.

Tell that to the Applus staff working on behalf of the Revenue Commissioners....

I'm not trying to mislead anyone, I merely thought the original poster may benefit from my personal experience of buying a car from a dealer in the UK, and immediately importing and registering it in Ireland.

But then again, you seem to think I'm providing I'm being misleading so I'll leave the conversation. I humbly apologise for describing how things actually occurred in my case, I promise not to offer the benefit of past experiences to anyone in future...

galwaytt

number_1 wrote: »

CiniO wrote: »

That's very misleading information.
First of all there is no need for V5C to be in your name. In the name of previous owner is fine.
Secondly, it's actually impossible to get V5C in the name of person who is not resident in UK.

Tell that to the Applus staff working on behalf of the Revenue Commissioners....

I'm not trying to mislead anyone, I merely thought the original poster may benefit from my personal experience of buying a car from a dealer in the UK, and immediately importing and registering it in Ireland.

But then again, you seem to think I'm providing I'm being misleading so I'll leave the conversation. I humbly apologise for describing how things actually occurred in my case, I promise not to offer the benefit of past experiences to anyone in future...

You may not intend to be misleading, but the fact of the matter is, that you are incorrect.

You DO NOT need a V5 in your name.

OP- you MUST bring the V5 from the dealership, with you. Make sure you tell the garage before you collect it, that you will be taking it with you. And don't take 'No' for an answer. If they have any doubts, get them to ring DVLA to confirm.

corktina

LFC Murphy wrote: »

The "should be ok" is what worries me. What's the worst that can happen. I'm driving on Sat at 12pm and have a 9pm ferry. A fine I can accept but could it be impounded and has it been done to anyone here

the reason I qualified my answer in that way is because you can never be sure of individual cops.If he had any concerns (real or imagined) about you, he COULD take you and the car to the Police station until he had verified who you are. Unlikely though

Marcusm

LFC Murphy wrote: »

Gonna use bank transfer. Over in the UK working for a few days.

And to be fair to the dealer, he questioned me about the tax. I said if I choose not to then its on my head. How much to tax, can it be done.for 3 months. And is the a possibility of it being refunded

How big isthe engine/cc produced? UK car tax caps out at around £400 although pre 2006 can be cheaper (mine is £260 but would be more if 2006). Can do 6 months and there is a refund procedure which means it should cost you 1 month. Not sure how easy that is on an export. Other significant issue for tax s insurance cert. will you have it?

LFC Murphy

Suppose if I want peace of mind and enjoy my trip home then get it taxed.

LFC Murphy

Can I (and I mean the dealer) tax it for 3 months. And how much, It's a 1.9 diesel. 144 Grams of Co2

LFC Murphy

Doesn't look like you can tax for 3 months. So 71.50 pounds for 3 hours peace of mind!

Marcusm

LFC Murphy wrote: »

Doesn't look like you can tax for 3 months. So 71.50 pounds for 3 hours peace of mind!

Wouldn't cost that much if you apply for the refund. See the link below.

What is the position vis a vis insurance as this is usually the more awkward bit?

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012526

number_1

galwaytt wrote: »

You may not intend to be misleading, but the fact of the matter is, that you are incorrect.

As I've already said (don't you just hate having to repeat yourself when people jump to conclusions), the Applus staff member insisted on me presenting a full V5 in the new owner's name.

The staff member may well have been incorrect, I nevertheless am not incorrect in my description of what they insisted they required to register the car I presented to them. I am merely describing what happened, not what should happen, so get off your high horse. This forum is a fantastic resource, until the keyboard warriors arrive to spoil the day...

galwaytt

number_1 wrote: »

galwaytt wrote: »

You may not intend to be misleading, but the fact of the matter is, that you are incorrect.

As I've already said (don't you just hate having to repeat yourself when people jump to conclusions), the Applus staff member insisted on me presenting a full V5 in the new owner's name.

The staff member may well have been incorrect, I nevertheless am not incorrect in my description of what they insisted they required to register the car I presented to them. I am merely describing what happened, not what should happen, so get off your high horse. This forum is a fantastic resource, until the keyboard warriors arrive to spoil the day...

As someone who has imported, personally, some 20+ vehicles, you are going to have to defer to fact. And my post count isn't insignificant, either.....

The Applus person you dealt with is incorrect. This too us a fact, and warrior's re-iterating that to be the be-all and end-all of it belies one thing. The actual laws, rules and regulations laid down by the State. You don't acquiesce to misinformation, you educate them.

Much as I'm doing here.

But hey, don't take my word for it, contact DoE, Revenue and DVLA. And none of them are spent A-P-P-L-U-S

CiniO

number_1 wrote: »

As I've already said (don't you just hate having to repeat yourself when people jump to conclusions), the Applus staff member insisted on me presenting a full V5 in the new owner's name.

The staff member may well have been incorrect, I nevertheless am not incorrect in my description of what they insisted they required to register the car I presented to them. I am merely describing what happened, not what should happen, so get off your high horse. This forum is a fantastic resource, until the keyboard warriors arrive to spoil the day...

Wait a second.
Here's what you've written in the beginning.

When registering the car here you require a full V5 in your name. The staff in the NCT centre (where you register the car) will not accept the detachable slip at the bottom of the V5 form saying the car was sold to you. Well, they wouldn't accept it when I went to register a car there with that part of the form. They told me to come back when I had the full form issued by the DVLA in the new owner's name. In order to have the new form issued the old one will need to be signed by the person buying the car and then sent to the DVLA.

You said you presented only a detachable slip at the bottom of V5C saying the car was sold to you.
They didn't accept it, and it was right. They can't accept just a slip like that. They need full V5C.
Only misleading information was that they told you it has to be in your name, while in reality it doesn't need to be in your name.

Did you eventually provided them with V5C in your name?
If yes, please let us know how did you manage to obtain it?

LFC Murphy

Marcusm wrote: »

Wouldn't cost that much if you apply
for the refund. See the link below.

What is the position vis a vis insurance as this is usually the more awkward bit?

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012526

Can i get a refund.
1. The dealer is getting the tax.
2. I don't have a uk address

Marcusm

LFC Murphy wrote: »

Can i get a refund.
1. The dealer is getting the tax.
2. I don't have a uk address

You're probably right as the V5 is not in your name. In the old days, the dealer could get it but they are not allowed to now. The old owner could get it, bizarrely!!

LFC Murphy

Marcusm wrote: »

You're probably right as the V5 is not in your name. In the old days, the dealer could get it but they are not allowed to now. The old owner could get it, bizarrely!!

The dealer can't, he said he can. Now I'm confused.

Marcusm

LFC Murphy wrote: »

The dealer can't, he said he can. Now I'm confused.

Look to the instructions on the form. Basically, the dealer doesn't become the registered keeper of the car (this minimises the number of owners). IN the past , they used to refund the tax to the dealer but this changed a while ago. The last car I bought (July 2011) had the tax disc still on it.

LFC Murphy

Rang the DVLA and they said if section 10 is filled out and presented to a post office, then the car can be taxed.

So I'll get the V5 minus the section 10.

Will I have a problem when I get back to Ireland

LFC Murphy

Well that's the job done. Arrived back to Dublin with the touran. Taxed it in the end. Thanks for all the help

MidlandsM

nice one op, tell us, roughly, what saving did you make by importing?

LFC Murphy

Unsure yet as I've my NCT appointment next week. It'll be 2K minimum.

MidlandsM

not to be sniffed at!

LFC Murphy

Just to finally answer the question, I finally cleared my Dec 2008 Touran for 11400 euro all in.

That included flights, ferry, hotel etc.

Very happy (or at least my wife).

Thanks for all the help.

GavMan

LFC Murphy wrote: »

Just to finally answer the question, I finally cleared my Dec 2008 Touran for 11400 euro all in.

That included flights, ferry, hotel etc.

Very happy (or at least my wife).

Thanks for all the help.

Thats great going, OP. Did you have much bother at the NCT Centre?

LFC Murphy

GavMan wrote: »

Thats great going, OP. Did you have much bother at the NCT Centre?

No probs really, main issue was I didn't have the correct paperwork but all in all no issue. All they really checked was milage and VRM number.

Must say the flights were dirt cheap to east midlands (50 euro) hotel was cheap at 25 euro. But for the sake of one night who cares. Ferry was 130 euro and the biggest expense besides the car of course.

I did spend 6 months looking for the car so when you have the amount of time, you will pick up a bargain with a full VW dealer FSH.

jpingx

hi op, can you explain how you taxed your car in the UK. Did you purchase the car, get insurance then went to the post office to get it taxed? Was a UK address required? I am desperate to find out how.