Time limit claiming back cash on car vrt'd in 2007??

manu77

Hi all.Wondered if anyone can help me with this.A friend brought a 2 yr old audi a4 into the country form england in 2007 with over 120000 miles on the clock.We wanted to see if it was to late to claim for excessive kilometers as it was 5 years ago.Any input greatly appreciated guys.Thanks..

colm_mcm

The time for disputing the vrt was 5 years ago to be fair

manu77

colm_mcm wrote: »

The time for disputing the vrt was 5 years ago to be fair

True that but that was'nt the question to be honest..

Anan1

What exactly do you mean when you say 'claim for excessive kilometres'?

colm_mcm

Was the milege not taken into account at the time?

Satanta

Maybe a better way to ask is: what is the time limit for disputing/appealing a VRT payment?

manu77

Satanta wrote: »

Maybe a better way to ask is: what is the time limit for disputing/appealing a VRT payment?

Why thank you but i taught the question was plain enough..Would 5 years be to late to have any chance of some reimbursement?It actually cost him over €5000 to bring the car in back then and he never heard of the excess kilometer claim until i mentioned it to him today.Times were good back 5 years ago i suppose.Nice genuine guy and some cash back would really help his cause at this time..

manu77

colm_mcm wrote: »

Was the milege not taken into account at the time?

He told me he still has the receipt but no record of milage on it...:(

manu77

Anan1 wrote: »

What exactly do you mean when you say 'claim for excessive kilometres'?

www.revenue.ie/en/about/foi/s16/.../vrt-manual-section-08.pdf?...

randy hickey

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Anan1

manu77 wrote: »

www.revenue.ie/en/about/foi/s16/.../vrt-manual-section-08.pdf?...

That link is not working. In any case, the mileage was always taken into account when the VRO calculated VRT on a car - what makes you think it wasn't in this case?

Satanta

manu77 wrote: »

Why thank you but i taught the question was plain enough..Would 5 years be to late to have any chance of some reimbursement?It actually cost him over €5000 to bring the car in back then and he never heard of the excess kilometer claim until i mentioned it to him today.Times were good back 5 years ago i suppose.Nice genuine guy and some cash back would really help his cause at this time..

Actually my comment was meant in such a way as to try to help you get your answer as most people seemed to only want to ask silly questions or offer no help. I was on my mobile and that was the best I could do.

However now that I am in front of a PC and have 30 seconds to spare I found the following by applying the science of google-ology

http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/leaflets/vrt-appeals.html

Your appeal should be forwarded, together with all relevant supporting documentation, to the appropriate Appeals Officer (see below). Please note that you have 2 months within which to make your appeal.

-Corkie-

Can someone explain this mileage thing to me. I never heard of this before..

Satanta

-Corkie- wrote: »

Can someone explain this mileage thing to me. I never heard of this before..

http://www.ivvcc.ie/vrt-manual-section-8%5B1%5D.pdf

8.3.6. Ascertain the mileage
The odometer should be read to establish the mileage. An average monthly mileage of 1,300 miles for diesel vehicles and 900 miles for all other vehicle types is taken as the standard. For every additional 1,000 miles in excess of this average that the vehicle has travelled, an additional credit of €77.00 will be allowed up to a maximum credit which is the lesser of €1,270 or 10% of the value of the vehicle.

8.3.7. Calculate the VRT
Having established the variables, the VRT due on the vehicle is calculated based on the OMSP and depreciation rates for the particular make, model, version and variant, adjusted to reflect the extras, condition and mileage for each individual vehicle presented for registration.

Anan1

-Corkie- wrote: »

Can someone explain this mileage thing to me. I never heard of this before..

Mileage is one of the factors used in the calculation of VRT due on an imported car. The OP seems to feel that the mileage on their friends car was somehow not taken into account when the car was imported in 2007, and wants to know whether this can be appealed now.:)

-Corkie-

Anan1 wrote: »

Mileage is one of the factors used in the calculation of VRT due on an imported car. The OP seems to feel that the mileage on their friends car was somehow not taken into account when the car was imported in 2007, and wants to know whether this can be appealed now.:)

I thought that but you must give the mileage when the car is being cleared. Also I have found that a car with low mileage is the same as the one with high mileage..

testicle

Anan1 wrote: »

That link is not working. In any case, the mileage was always taken into account when the VRO calculated VRT on a car - what makes you think it wasn't in this case?

This link works.
http://www.revenue.ie/en/about/foi/s16/vehicle-registration-tax/vrt-manual-section-08.pdf

I refer you to page 16 onwards.

This thread is no doubt in response to this one - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=76995629

Matt Simis

-Corkie- wrote: »

Can someone explain this mileage thing to me. I never heard of this before..

Yes, I didnt know this either and almost every car I imported would have been eligible.. is this a new thing?
The PDF linked basically says the VRT calc only factors mileage upto 64k km, any reductions for high mileage depreciation beyond that is on a scale that must be applied for separately!

I never heard about this till last week (was another thread here).

Ascertain the Kilometerage
The odometer should be read to establish the distance travelled. An average monthly kilometerage of 2,100Km for diesel vehicles and 1,500 km for all other vehicle types is taken as the standard. For every additional 1,600 Km in excess of this average that the vehicle has travelled, an additional credit will be allowed depending on the age of the vehicle in accordance with the following tables. However, where the kilometerage excess is greater than 64,000Km, the VRT reduction for any additional kilometerage must be claimed by the individual using the Excess Kilometer Claim Form, (see Appendix 3), the claim supported by documentation demonstrating that the kilometerage is valid. Where a vehicle is more than 4 years old this documentation must include kilometerage recorded at the most recent Periodic Technical Inspection and a vehicle service report or invoice from a garage and where the vehicle is less than 4 years old, the kilometerage recorded on at least two vehicle service reports or invoices from the garage.



The maximum credit allowed will continue to be limited to 10% of the value of the vehicle.

PS: Kilometerage is a stupid word IMO.

Anan1

testicle wrote: »

This link works.
http://www.revenue.ie/en/about/foi/s16/vehicle-registration-tax/vrt-manual-section-08.pdf

I refer you to page 16 onwards.

This thread is no doubt in response to this one - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=76995629

Thanks for that. Did this even apply in 2007? It's the first i've heard of it.

-Corkie-

Anan1 wrote: »

Thanks for that. Did this even apply in 2007? It's the first i've heard of it.

The pdf document is dated december 2011. I imported a car in late 08 with 120k kms on it. That would be a substansial discount..

manu77

randy hickey wrote: »

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Well its not my problem to be honest Randy!!Its a friend who asked me to get peoples views on this forum.Is that not what a forum is all about??He wanted to see would it be worth his while chasing it up if you get me.It seems to be turning in to a debate now.Maybe we need Frank The Tank from Old School on this eh??:D

manu77

Matt Simis wrote: »

Yes, I didnt know this either and almost every car I imported would have been eligible.. is this a new thing?
The PDF linked basically says the VRT calc only factors mileage upto 64k km, any reductions for high mileage depreciation beyond that is on a scale that must be applied for separately!

I never heard about this till last week (was another thread here).




PS: Kilometerage is a stupid word IMO.

Yes my own thread was up last week im in the middle of a claim myself..

manu77

Anan1 wrote: »

That link is not working. In any case, the mileage was always taken into account when the VRO calculated VRT on a car - what makes you think it wasn't in this case?

I dont think anything im asking you guys for your opinions thats why i started the thread..;)

manu77

-Corkie- wrote: »

I thought that but you must give the mileage when the car is being cleared. Also I have found that a car with low mileage is the same as the one with high mileage..

You pay full whack and then have the option of claiming some back..

manu77

Satanta wrote: »

Actually my comment was meant in such a way as to try to help you get your answer as most people seemed to only want to ask silly questions or offer no help. I was on my mobile and that was the best I could do.

However now that I am in front of a PC and have 30 seconds to spare I found the following by applying the science of google-ology

http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/leaflets/vrt-appeals.html

No sarcasm intended Satanta im very gratefull for your input thank you..

Anan1

manu77 wrote: »

Well its not my problem to be honest Randy!!Its a friend who asked me to get peoples views on this forum.Is that not what a forum is all about??He wanted to see would it be worth his while chasing it up if you get me.It seems to be turning in to a debate now.Maybe we need Frank The Tank from Old School on this eh??:D

manu77 wrote: »

I dont think anything im asking you guys for your opinions thats why i started the thread..;)

So you don't actually want a definitive answer?

manu77

randy hickey wrote: »

Ring them.Ask question.Get your answer. Simples dot com.

I think i got it.Thanks all..;)