Mass book formatting help?!?!?

ssbob

Hi All,

So spent an age putting together the mass book and then printed it off and realised this is not going to work because when you fold the sheets it does not work properly or in the right order.........

Does anyone have any experience of this or any tips they can give me?????

Thanks

ssbob

Neyite

Are you printing on A4 and folding the sheets in half to make an A5 document?

I did this for a non-wedding booklet of about 12 pages. Basically my work-around was to use tables with an invisible border. On a landscape page you would have 2 columns and one row. Stretch the column to fit the A5 within a margin.

Put your text for page 1 in column A, and column B becomes the last page of your document. When you have the approx text on the pages do one test print. It means that if you have to move text from one booklet page to another, it wont mess up the formatting on another page.

If you get stuck let me know, and I might be able to knock up a quick template for ya

ABajaninCork

I'll have a look for mine...It's quite complicated to do, isn't it? I did A5 booklets from an A4 Word template.

littlejp

I got paper from Daintree Paper for mine and printed myself. They have a free template on their blog: http://daintreepaper.blogspot.com/2010/01/wedding-service-booklet-templates.html

BostonB

Word isn't a DTP (Page layout) application which is why you find this hard.

But you can use text boxes in word and link them, across different pages like a DTP application would do. Most people aren't aware text boxes are in Word though.

Using tables and columns isn't a bad way to go either.

Bride2012

Text boxes for each half of the A4 and then match them up.
e.g. for a 12 page it would be;
pg12 on the left, 1 on the right
other side of this pg2 on the left, 11 on the right etc.

ssbob

Thanks for all the help everyone, is it possible to put text into the word boxes after the text is already there?

In work now but later will put some time into this, and get back to ye with any queries.

Thanks again.

Bride2012

ssbob wrote: »

Thanks for all the help everyone, is it possible to put text into the word boxes after the text is already there?

In work now but later will put some time into this, and get back to ye with any queries.

Thanks again.

I would just cut and paste any text into the box.

miguelk

ssbob wrote: »

Hi All,

So spent an age putting together the mass book and then printed it off and realised this is not going to work because when you fold the sheets it does not work properly or in the right order.........

Does anyone have any experience of this or any tips they can give me?????

Thanks

ssbob

We did it out on 2 x a4 pages, printed it on fancy/glossy paper (ordered online) back and front and scrolled them up with a ribbon.
The text on each page was jsut done in 2 x columns.

Very handy to do, not expensive, looks well, and the priest commented on how easy it is to use for him rather than flicking through pages (although he'd surely know the words be heart at this stage)

meemeep

Would this not work in word?

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word-help/print-a-folded-booklet-HP003072949.aspx

I've used it for a5 brochures.

clintondaly

do you have Microsoft office Publisher

silly

I got so frustrated with this, decided to do a scroll in the end.
One page, back to front, tied with ribbon.
Bobs your uncle!

silly

I got so frustrated with this, decided to do a scroll in the end.
One page, back to front, tied with ribbon.
Bobs your uncle!

john_cappa

You just have to print it as a booklet.

Press print,properties, output, and turn booklet "on".

Sorted!

BostonB

Yes the text boxes remain editable. As you edit it, it adjusts the flow throughout the other linked text boxes. As a result you might not want to link them all. But link only a logical section with another. As you don't want the whole thing to change formatting as you edit it.

Another point is that text boxes have anchors in the main text. You might inadvertently move these if you don't have show anchors turned on. But you can also put text boxes in tables, to keep them from moving.

http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/Pub0009/LPMArticle.asp?ID=482

You should experiment with a few methods before deciding on a method that works for your layout. You might decide you don't like text boxes.

keyboardcook

Get six blank sheets.

Fold them as you want you final result to look like.

On each page, write the page numbers.

Open the book to the center pages.

You will see, left to right, pages six and seven.

Lift that sheet away. You will see, left to right, pages four and nine.

Lift that sheet away. You will see, left to right, pages two and eleven.

Open word:
Document One:
Landscape. A4. Two text boxes on each page, left and right.
First page contents: Pages Six and Seven
Second page contents: Pages Four and Nine
Third Page contents: Pages Two and Eleven.

Print, and leave them in the printer.

Put the book template back together.
Again, open it to the center pages, but place it face down.

Take the top sheet and flip it over.
You will see, left to right, pages twelve and one.

Take the second sheet and flip it over.
You will see, left to right, pages ten and three.

Take the last sheet and flip it over.
You will see, left to right, pages eight and five

Open word:
Document Two:
Landscape. A4. Two text boxes on each page, left and right.
First page contents: Pages twelve and one.
Second page contents: Pages ten and three
Third Page contents: Pages eight and five
(make sure page eight is on the left, five on the right etc etc..)

Take the previously printed sheets from the printer.
Reload them in to the printer, printed side up.

Print Document two.

Fold the book.

Make a cup of tea and glow with pride at the finished result

BostonB

john_cappa wrote: »

You just have to print it as a booklet.

Press print,properties, output, and turn booklet "on".

Sorted!

Thats an option on my printer settings not MS Word/Window. Perhaps not all printers do it. I don't know. Just wondering.

Cedrus

I use tables because I understand them. 3 cells per A4 landscape sheet, the middle one so that the margin can be controlled for the spine to take a staple ribbon etc. Extra cells can be added to keep any pictures where you want them.

When it's all laid out the way you want, save it as a PDF, then it can be printed on any printer without the formatting going squiffy. Send it to the printers or the big printer at work or share the printing load with all the family.

BostonB

If you're printing on inkjets, it might be cheaper to get it printed than do it yourself. Considering the time it takes.

keyboardcook

Not all versions of word have booklet printing.

Not all printers have booklet printing.

Tables is another way instead of text boxes, but the layout still has to be done as per my previous post.

Getting them printed is an option, but I would imagine the OP is trying to save a few quid, hence the post. If it was a case of just being 'printed', layout would still have to be done.

Cedrus

BostonB wrote: »

If you're printing on inkjets, it might be cheaper to get it printed than do it yourself. Considering the time it takes.

Not to mention the frustration of running out of ink when you've got all the odd pages printed and you're just turned the paper over and starting the evens, .............................. at 2am.

BostonB

Usually the places that print the booklets do the layout for you. They do everything basically. When I worked it out before it was cheaper getting it printed, than me doing it myself. If you have some cheap way of printing it, then obviously you have an advantage. Depends how many you are printing of course. Some people want to do it themselves for other reasons, the personal touch and all that.

BostonB

Cedrus wrote: »

Not to mention the frustration of running out of ink when you've got all the odd pages printed and you're just turned the paper over and starting the evens, .............................. at 2am.

Oh yes, I have been in a very similar situation ... lol.

john_cappa

BostonB wrote: »

Thats an option on my printer settings not MS Word/Window. Perhaps not all printers do it. I don't know. Just wondering.

I dont think it is anything to do with the printer?

keyboardcook

Thats an option on my printer settings not MS Word/Window. Perhaps not all printers do it. I don't know. Just wondering.

It is. Some HP model have booklet printing on Windows OS's only.

BostonB

john_cappa wrote: »

I dont think it is anything to do with the printer?

When I checked I didn't have the option till I went into the properties of the printer.