VRT Help please??

manu77

Hi guys.Iv a 2006 vw passat 2.0 TDI im due to vrt tomorrow.the car has 153000 miles as its an ex company car.Thats nearly double the average milage the revenue allows.How does the milage discount work if anyone can tell me because it does not seem to matter on the calculator what milage it has it comes up with the same rate.also do i pay there and then or do i wait a few days for them to get back to me with the final amount?.Thanks in advance.

mada999

all the info is here':


http://www.nct.ie/vrt.html

manu77

mada999 wrote: »

all the info is here':


http://www.nct.ie/vrt.html

Thanks but id like to know what way they give you a discount on a car with higher than average milage??Do they do it there and then or what?Thanks again..

manu77

anyone guys??Thanks

Chimaera

http://www.revenue.ie/en/about/foi/s16/vehicle-registration-tax/vrt-manual-section-08.pdf

Gumbo

manu77 wrote: »

anyone guys??Thanks

8.3.6.Ascertain the Kilometerage
The odometer should be read to establish the distance travelled. An average monthly kilometerage of 2,100Km for diesel vehicles and 1,500 km for all other vehicle types is taken as the standard. For every additional 1,600 Km in excess of this average that the vehicle has travelled, an additional credit will be allowed depending on the age of the vehicle in accordance with the following tables. However, where the kilometerage excess is greater than 64,000Km, the VRT reduction for any additional kilometerage must be claimed by the individual using the Excess Kilometer Claim Form, (see Appendix 3), the claim supported by documentation demonstrating that the kilometerage is valid. Where a vehicle is more than 4 years old this documentation must include kilometerage recorded at the most recent Periodic Technical Inspection and a vehicle service report or invoice from a garage and where the vehicle is less than 4 years old, the kilometerage recorded on at least two vehicle service reports or invoices from the garage.
Cars less than 3 years old:
€70 per 1,600Km for the first 16,000 excess;
€60 per 1,600Km for the next 16,000 excess;
€50 per 1,600Km for the next 16,000 excess;
€40 per 1,600Km for the next 16,000 excess;
€30 per 1,600Km for the remainder, subject to a valid claim.


Cars more than 3 years old and less than 6 years old:
€60 per 1,600Km for the first 16,000 excess;
€50 per 1,600Km for the next 16,000 excess;
€40 per 1,600Km for the next 16,000 excess;
€30 per 1,600Km for the next 16,000 excess;
€20 per 1,600Km for the remainder, subject to a valid claim.


Cars more than 6 years old:
€50 per 1,600Km for the first 16,000 excess;
€40 per 1,600Km for the next 16,000 excess;
€30 per 1,600Km for the next 16,000 excess;
€20 per 1,600Km for the next 16,000 excess;
€10 per 1,600Km for the remainder, subject to a valid claim
The maximum credit allowed will continue to be limited to 10% of the value of the vehicle.

CJhaughey

Your car is not that much over the accepted calculated figure for diesel cars.
See below from the revenue website.
2100 x 12 = 25200 per annum
25200 x 6 yrs =151200 km = 94500 miles.
There is a manual that calculates the excess milage and allows you to claim it back.
Here


Mileage that is considerably higher than accepted "norms" might reduce the VRT that is due on the vehicle. The normal average monthly mileage assumed by the Revenue Commissioners is 2,100 Km for diesel vehicles and 1,600 Km for all other vehicles.

manu77

CJhaughey wrote: »

Your car is not that much over the accepted calculated figure for diesel cars.
See below from the revenue website.
2100 x 12 = 25200 per annum
25200 x 6 yrs =151200 km = 94500 miles.
There is a manual that calculates the excess milage and allows you to claim it back.
Here


Mileage that is considerably higher than accepted "norms" might reduce the VRT that is due on the vehicle. The normal average monthly mileage assumed by the Revenue Commissioners is 2,100 Km for diesel vehicles and 1,600 Km for all other vehicles.

Its nearly 100km over all the same cj.Thanks for the input by the way much obliged.As it stands its going to cost in the region of €2000.Do you think id at most half that figure with the milage??(wishfull thinkin)

CJhaughey

manu77 wrote: »

Its nearly 100km over all the same cj.Thanks for the input by the way much obliged.As it stands its going to cost in the region of €2000.Do you think id at most half that figure with the milage??(wishfull thinkin)

Its in the manual.
64000km + 2100 x however many months has elapsed since first reg of the vehicle.
What was the date of first reg? you can work it out yourself.
You have to pay it and then claim it back.

manu77

Anyone give me a helping hand calculating this guys??Thanks in advance..

kleefarr

It looks like 64000km + (2100 x 68) = 206800
So would that be €2068?

manu77

kceire wrote: »

8.3.6.Ascertain the Kilometerage
The odometer should be read to establish the distance travelled. An average monthly kilometerage of 2,100Km for diesel vehicles and 1,500 km for all other vehicle types is taken as the standard. For every additional 1,600 Km in excess of this average that the vehicle has travelled, an additional credit will be allowed depending on the age of the vehicle in accordance with the following tables. However, where the kilometerage excess is greater than 64,000Km, the VRT reduction for any additional kilometerage must be claimed by the individual using the Excess Kilometer Claim Form, (see Appendix 3), the claim supported by documentation demonstrating that the kilometerage is valid. Where a vehicle is more than 4 years old this documentation must include kilometerage recorded at the most recent Periodic Technical Inspection and a vehicle service report or invoice from a garage and where the vehicle is less than 4 years old, the kilometerage recorded on at least two vehicle service reports or invoices from the garage.
Cars less than 3 years old:
€70 per 1,600Km for the first 16,000 excess;
€60 per 1,600Km for the next 16,000 excess;
€50 per 1,600Km for the next 16,000 excess;
€40 per 1,600Km for the next 16,000 excess;
€30 per 1,600Km for the remainder, subject to a valid claim.


Cars more than 3 years old and less than 6 years old:
€60 per 1,600Km for the first 16,000 excess;
€50 per 1,600Km for the next 16,000 excess;
€40 per 1,600Km for the next 16,000 excess;
€30 per 1,600Km for the next 16,000 excess;
€20 per 1,600Km for the remainder, subject to a valid claim.


Cars more than 6 years old:
€50 per 1,600Km for the first 16,000 excess;
€40 per 1,600Km for the next 16,000 excess;
€30 per 1,600Km for the next 16,000 excess;
€20 per 1,600Km for the next 16,000 excess;
€10 per 1,600Km for the remainder, subject to a valid claim
The maximum credit allowed will continue to be limited to 10% of the value of the vehicle.

If my machine is 80000 kilometers over the average does this mean going by these figures i could half my vrt??Thanks again guys this is confusin the sh1t out of me!!

CJhaughey

I think you should be able to claim back nearly 900 euro on excess kilometrage.

mickdw

It says max credit is 10% of vehicle value. I thing this will be the limiting factor in the OP case.

Im not sure if they mean they reduce the actual assessed value of the vehicle by 10% maximum (for mileage reasons)
or

Possibly, your vrt figure can be reduced by up to 10% of the value of the vehicle.

manu77

mickdw wrote: »

It says max credit is 10% of vehicle value. I thing this will be the limiting factor in the OP case.

Im not sure if they mean they reduce the actual assessed value of the vehicle by 10% maximum (for mileage reasons)
or

Possibly, your vrt figure can be reduced by up to 10% of the value of the vehicle.

CJ and MICKDW,I salute you guys:)Thank you very much..

millionmystery

hi, I'm going to get the inspection done for the vrt next week, just wondering were you given any time (a day or week etc) to come back and pay the amount you were quoted after they inspected the vehicle? thanks!

Seve OB

mickdw wrote: »

It says max credit is 10% of vehicle value. I thing this will be the limiting factor in the OP case.

I'm not so sure. I brought a car in from the UK a couple of years ago and paid VRT based on what they told me the OMSV of the vehicle was.

Except they way over priced the car.

I backed up proof of the value by priniting off similar cars for sales on websites and had some emaiol backup from dealers.

I was able to change their mind on the OMSV, and they brought it down considerably, though not to what I had hoped, but I definately got more like 15% back.

For the OP, what I did might be an option for you, see if you can dispute the OMSV of the vehicle. You will have to pay and then claim it back, but it was simple enough to do.

manu77

millionmystery wrote: »

hi, I'm going to get the inspection done for the vrt next week, just wondering were you given any time (a day or week etc) to come back and pay the amount you were quoted after they inspected the vehicle? thanks!

I had to pay the full amount million i now have to fill out a form and some other bits to claim some funds back..:mad:Ridiculous really..

manu77

stevieob wrote: »

I'm not so sure. I brought a car in from the UK a couple of years ago and paid VRT based on what they told me the OMSV of the vehicle was.

Except they way over priced the car.

I backed up proof of the value by priniting off similar cars for sales on websites and had some emaiol backup from dealers.

I was able to change their mind on the OMSV, and they brought it down considerably, though not to what I had hoped, but I definately got more like 15% back.

For the OP, what I did might be an option for you, see if you can dispute the OMSV of the vehicle. You will have to pay and then claim it back, but it was simple enough to do.

Thanks Stevie..

millionmystery

Thanks Manu77, so you're not given any time at all to come up with the funds,thats a joke! I thought you'd get a week or even a few days.

Seve OB

millionmystery wrote: »

Thanks Manu77, so you're not given any time at all to come up with the funds,thats a joke! I thought you'd get a week or even a few days.

nope, you got to pay it straight away.

when i went in though, my car was overspec'd compared to similar on the Irish market, so they sent off to Rosslare to get details on it from the UK.

This actually gave me an extra week or so, and they give you a form to show customes or Guards if they stop you so that they won't confiscate the car.

manu77

stevieob wrote: »

nope, you got to pay it straight away.

when i went in though, my car was overspec'd compared to similar on the Irish market, so they sent off to Rosslare to get details on it from the UK.

This actually gave me an extra week or so, and they give you a form to show customes or Guards if they stop you so that they won't confiscate the car.

True i had to pay there and then guys.Stevie i rang a few dealers and they reckon the revenue have the valuation of my car fairly spot on.:(Im going to claim back on excess kilometerage tho as mine has almost 100km more than they average..So hopefully ill get some return..

mindiman

Hi. Im having the same problem last few days with the revenue and VRT. Want to clear a Saab 93 2005. but whatever mileage i put in on the website make no difference to the VRT payable. I read all the VRT manual section 8. Got the formula to work out the VTR payable and should coming off €474 less. as for some reason the VRT calculator is not taking in mileage into its calculations. My car is 50000km over the average by revenue. discount works out at €1200 but 10% of the vehicle value is less so its €474 as its limited to 10% of cars value. Went in to NCT today to ask few questions. They had nothing to tell me. Told me ring revenue as they don't do car valuations. they only check and register. So at the end i rang revenue here in Galway. Man on the phone was really nice to me (for a change). asked me to email all the info and details to him and he's going to look in to it. I should hear back from him till Friday.
Oh and NCT told me that i can register and then claim it back later. but in the VRT manual 8.3.6. Ascertain the Kilometerage it says you can claim it back only if the excess mileage is higher than 64,000km. So I'm waiting for revenue to come back to me as it seems that the online calculator is not working by the manual. And it looks like NCTs use the same system. Its a joke to be honest.
I'll let you know how I get on.

mindiman

by the way MANU77 did you get anything back on yours yet?

Seve OB

mindiman wrote: »

by the way MANU77 did you get anything back on yours yet?

once you can give back up proof you will get something back and it doesn;t take long.

Probably took about 2 weeks for me and I got ove a grand back

paddylonglegs

sorry for dragging this thread up, but is the online vrt calculator accurate when it comes to a fairly standard car? Or will I be getting a major shock?

kleefarr

I think it would be better and more accurate if you paid a visit to you local NCT center.

bazz26

paddylonglegs wrote: »

sorry for dragging this thread up, but is the online vrt calculator accurate when it comes to a fairly standard car? Or will I be getting a major shock?

It is a rough guide calculation, it is not set in stone. If the car is 4 years or younger and has factory extras fitted, then VRT is calculated on these too which is not included in the online VRT calculator.