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British registration with no eu symbol

  • 05-02-2012 12:43pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 723 ✭✭✭


    Why is it optional for British cars to use the European symbol and country identification, which they supply as an additional sticker, while here it's against the law to not have it imprinted onto your plates


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭tossy


    Because they didn't fall for the EU dream hook line and sinker like we did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    Because the stiff-upper-lip attitude of the Brits to anything EU means(t) that they would not change anything that would affect their Britishness in any tiny way whatsoever. They even dismissed out of hand the notion that they would simplify their car numbering system to that what applies here.:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭Bearcat


    And they were bloody right....stiff upper lip or not. We are just lemmings to the EU.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,104 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    bfocusd wrote: »
    Why is it optional for British cars to use the European symbol and country identification, which they supply as an additional sticker, while here it's against the law to not have it imprinted onto your plates

    Because parts of the area covered by the registration system (GBR) are not in the EU.

    For example, where I live.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    3DataModem wrote: »
    Because parts of the area covered by the registration system (GBR) are not in the EU.

    For example, where I live.

    But it doesn't prevent them from using the country symbol.

    Like f.e. Serbia is not in EU as well, but is showing country symbol on plates:
    novigrbnatablici3.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    Because its not on the MOT.

    AFAIK They are supposed to have a 'GB' sticker when they go abroad.

    Seems to be just Ireland.

    Belgium (Standard plate):
    afbeelding122.jpg

    Netherlands (Public Service Vehicle Plate, E.G. Taxi):
    771px-CTS.jpg

    American imports also have plates without the logo as theres no space for it.

    Finland and Germany also still have cars around without the EU Country logo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Bearcat wrote: »
    And they were bloody right....stiff upper lip or not. We are just lemmings to the EU.

    And now everyone from UK who wants to drive abroad, must put a sticker like that
    gb_sticker.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Because its not on the MOT.

    AFAIK They are supposed to have a 'GB' sticker when they go abroad.

    Seems to be just Ireland.

    Belgium (Standard plate):


    Netherlands (Public Service Vehicle Plate, E.G. Taxi):

    American imports also have plates without the logo as theres no space for it.

    Finland and Germany also still have cars around without the EU Country logo.



    New Belgian plates include country sign already.

    All those in Finland and Germany without country sign are old plates.

    The same applies to Ireland.
    If you have a car which had a plates issued before new regulations came in force (I think it was 1990) don't need country sign.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 723 ✭✭✭bfocusd


    So basically we're the gob s*!tes that went along with it and didn't stand up for ourselves..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    are you not proud enough of your country to want to display it on your cars


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    CiniO wrote: »
    New Belgian plates include country sign already.

    All those in Finland and Germany without country sign are old plates.

    The same applies to Ireland.
    If you have a car which had a plates issued before new regulations came in force (I think it was 1990) don't need country sign.

    Belgium was since sometime 2010 I think, although people still have their plates they keep for life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    3DataModem wrote: »
    Because parts of the area covered by the registration system (GBR) are not in the EU.

    For example, where I live.

    what part is that? If you mean Guernsey Jersey Man et al, they are covered under seperate registration systems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    All the moaning is great, just like on any thread that mentions FF and people voting them in. When everythign is going well and we have money = EU is good, as soon as the recession hits = EU is bad and we were stupid to have anythign to do with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,104 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    corktina wrote: »
    3DataModem wrote: »
    Because parts of the area covered by the registration system (GBR) are not in the EU.

    For example, where I live.

    what part is that? If you mean Guernsey Jersey Man et al, they are covered under seperate registration systems.

    Isle of Man.

    Yes, different NUMBERING systems but IOM plates still have the GBR mark and are issued in Swansea like the rest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 723 ✭✭✭bfocusd


    corktina wrote: »
    are you not proud enough of your country to want to display it on your cars

    I'm proud to have the IRL on my car yes, but my original post refers to the European logo, I don't have a problem with having it, but I was curious as to why the UK are optional. But I suppose they are not in the euro either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    corktina wrote: »
    are you not proud enough of your country to want to display it on your cars


    I might be wrong, but I remember reading somewhere some time age, that it was Irish idea to unify all numberplates in EU and have a blue label on the left with country name and EU symbol.
    Irish were first and everyone else followed.

    EDIT: That's what I found for quick from wikipedia
    Ireland first introduced the now common blue European Union strip (comprising the European flag symbol and the country code of the member state) on the left-hand side of the number plate in 1991, following the Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) (Amendment) Regulations statute of 1990 (S.I. No. 287/1990).[3] A similar band was adopted by Portugal in 1991 and by Germany in 1994[4] and was standardised across the EU on 11 November 1998 by Council Regulation (EC) No 2411/98 of 3 November 1998.
    The common EU format was introduced by Council Regulation (EC) No 2411/98 of 3 November 1998[1] and entered into force on the 11 November 1998. It was based on a model registration plate which several member states had introduced, Ireland (1991),[2] Portugal (1992),[citation needed] and Germany (1994).[3]

    So I'm not sure now if it was actually Irish idea with that plates, but definitely Ireland was first to introduce it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    bfocusd wrote: »
    I'm proud to have the IRL on my car yes, but my original post refers to the European logo

    In Poland they issued EU like plates in 2000, but only changed to EU symbol instead of Polish flag in 2006 (2 years after Poland joined EU).

    Bottom - From 2000
    Top - From 2006

    Pltableseries2006.jpg


    Would you prefer to have Irish flag instead of EU logo on your numberplate?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    CiniO wrote: »
    In Poland they issued EU like plates in 2000, but only changed to EU symbol instead of Polish flag in 2006 (2 years after Poland joined EU).

    Bottom - From 2000
    Top - From 2006

    Pltableseries2006.jpg


    Would you prefer to have Irish flag instead of EU logo on your numberplate?

    I wouldnt. Personally I find have little flags stuck on your car (any flag, not just the irsh one) tacky lookiing. The ring of stars works grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    From a UK registration plate site -
    Euro (and other flags) on number plates

    Since 1st September 2001 you have been able to choose to display a Euro flag, for vehicles registered in the UK. The Euro-plate is a number plate that has the symbol of the European Union (a circle of 12 stars on a blue background) with the national identification letters of the member states below it (for example GB). This symbol is located on the far left-hand side of the number plate.
    Vehicles displaying this Euro symbol on the number plate no longer have to use the traditional oval shaped national identifier (GB) sticker when travelling within the European Union. All vehicles registered in England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales have, by international convention, the distinguishing sign GB.

    On 28 December 2001, the Government announced the intention to permit the display of national flags and national identifiers on vehicle number plates. The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001 are in the process of being amended. They will provide for the voluntary display of the Union flag, Scottish Saltire, Cross of St George and Red Dragon. Football team crests etc. are not allowed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    tossy wrote: »
    Because they didn't fall for the EU dream hook line and sinker like we did.
    bfocusd wrote: »
    So basically we're the gob s*!tes that went along with it and didn't stand up for ourselves..

    In fairness, it's a number plate. Who cares. Sur half the lads with VAGs and BMWs are going around pretending to be living in Germany with their German plates!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭tossy


    gpf101 wrote: »
    In fairness, it's a number plate. Who cares. Sur half the lads with VAGs and BMWs are going around pretending to be living in Germany with their German plates!

    More than half,and half of them used to go round pretending the lived in japan,and half of all the people i see driving like tools these days have German plates :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,921 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    3DataModem wrote: »
    corktina wrote: »
    3DataModem wrote: »
    Because parts of the area covered by the registration system (GBR) are not in the EU.

    For example, where I live.

    what part is that? If you mean Guernsey Jersey Man et al, they are covered under seperate registration systems.

    Isle of Man.

    Yes, different NUMBERING systems but IOM plates still have the GBR mark and are issued in Swansea like the rest.

    as far as I am aware, Northern Ireland numberplates are issued from Coleraine instead of Swansea but are subject to the same regulations as those issued from Swansea.

    Most Manx plates I have seen have the band on the left with the Manx three legged symbol whose name escapes me.

    I remember being a kid and going to IOM and the numbering seemed to follow GB except the three letters were always MAN and the single letter did not relate to the year. But they were all L NNN MAN or MAN NNN L.


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