Diversions heading for Dublin

Kenny2012

Apparently Dublin can accept 4 aircraft and BA228 G-BNWT B747 will be the 1st to divert to Dublin.
regards
Ken

Kenny2012

BA196 G-BNLW B747 is also heading for Dublin.

Darwin

Looks like another BA747 (BA196) Heathrow bound is in a holding pattern over the Irish sea.

Kenny2012

3rd one appears to be BA24R G-VIIK 777

blackius

sorry for the cross postings in the other threads,I didn't see this one.
From a BA source:

BA194 Houston - London Heathrow operated by Boeing 747-436 G-BNLJ doverted to Shannon.

BA196 Houston - London Heathrow operated by Boeing 747-436 G-BNLW diverted to Dublin.

BA208 Miami - London Heathrow operated by Boeing 747-436 G-CIVP diverted to Shannon.

BA218 Denver - London Heathrow operated by Boeing 777-236ER G-YMMT diverted to Shannon.

BA226 Atlanta - London Heathrow operated by Boeing 777-236ER G-VIIE diverted to Shannon.

BA228 Baltimore-Washington - London Heathrow operated by Boeing 767-336ER G-BNWT diverted to Dublin.

BA264 Washington - London Heathrow operated by Boeing 777-236ER G-YMMK diverted to Shannon.

BA296 Chicago - London Heathrow operated by Boeing 767-336ER G-VIIK diverted to Dublin.

Blue Punto

G-CIVP BA208 by niallsaviation, on Flickr

BA208 Departs Shannon for LHR This morning
More here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/niallsaviation/sets/72157629185721177/

Stinicker

What would happen to any Irish passengers who were flying in from the US on those flights? and would have been due to connect in Heathrow for Dublin/Cork etc. but now thanks to the diversions conveniently found themselves back in Ireland.

It said they might be put up in hotel so I presume they offloaded their luggage meaning any Irish passengers were effectively home and dry! Or would they be some red tape which would see them having to fly to London and then back to Dublin to "complete" their journey!

Similarly for I wonder what would happen for pax from foreign countrys who might have Visas for the UK but not Ireland, would they have to remain in the terminal like Viktor Novorsky in that movie "The Terminal"?

The thought just popped into my head as I was trying to imagine myself in these passengers situation!

Lapin

A lot of diversions to Shannon there.

Will that make the place extra busy tomorrow morning?

Just wondering as I'm flying from there at 06.30. Should I leave the house extra early?

Tenger

Stinicker wrote: »

What would happen to any Irish passengers who were flying in from the US on those flights?......

It said they might be put up in hotel so I presume they offloaded their luggage meaning any Irish passengers were effectively home and dry! Or would they be some red tape which would see them having to fly to London and then back to Dublin to "complete" their journey!

I was told that last year when BA diverted 2/3 aircraft into DUB due snow closing LHR for 2 days approx 40 pax did not return to the airport for the continuing flight to LHR the following day.

The situation below is different as it seems that the pax were not disembarked from the aircraft.
"but stuck on the tarmac for a couple of hours"

Explosive_Cornflake

Stinicker wrote: »

What would happen to any Irish passengers who were flying in from the US on those flights? and would have been due to connect in Heathrow for Dublin/Cork etc. but now thanks to the diversions conveniently found themselves back in Ireland.

It said they might be put up in hotel so I presume they offloaded their luggage meaning any Irish passengers were effectively home and dry! Or would they be some red tape which would see them having to fly to London and then back to Dublin to "complete" their journey!

Similarly for I wonder what would happen for pax from foreign countrys who might have Visas for the UK but not Ireland, would they have to remain in the terminal like Viktor Novorsky in that movie "The Terminal"?

The thought just popped into my head as I was trying to imagine myself in these passengers situation!

I'm pretty sure a guy in work was in a similar situation once, but stuck on the tarmac for a couple of hours. He had to fly onto London, stay over because he missed his connection, and then fly back the next day.

Preset No.3

I was thinking the same myself. If I was LHR bound and landed in SHN or DUB on a divert I would demand that I was allowed to get off. There has to be an issue of false arrest there if they do not allow you to leave. Would this leave an airline open to be sued?

Puggit

I was on BA208 which landed at SNN today. I can confirm we were told to remain on the plane and no option was given to leave. I spoke to a passenger from Belfast who was resigned to his fate.

Certainly anyone who left would leave without luggage!

At the end of the day, we were only there for approx 2 hours.


Blue Punto, thanks for the momento of my only visit to SNN!

Marcusm

blackius wrote: »

sorry for the cross postings in the other threads,I didn't see this one.
From a BA source:

BA194 Houston - London Heathrow operated by Boeing 747-436 G-BNLJ doverted to Shannon.

BA196 Houston - London Heathrow operated by Boeing 747-436 G-BNLW diverted to Dublin.

BA208 Miami - London Heathrow operated by Boeing 747-436 G-CIVP diverted to Shannon.

BA218 Denver - London Heathrow operated by Boeing 777-236ER G-YMMT diverted to Shannon.

BA226 Atlanta - London Heathrow operated by Boeing 777-236ER G-VIIE diverted to Shannon.

BA228 Baltimore-Washington - London Heathrow operated by Boeing 767-336ER G-BNWT diverted to Dublin.

BA264 Washington - London Heathrow operated by Boeing 777-236ER G-YMMK diverted to Shannon.

BA296 Chicago - London Heathrow operated by Boeing 767-336ER G-VIIK diverted to Dublin.

G-VIIK is definitely a 777; I once had a charge over it for some financing. PLus the VII- is the giveaway!

Tenger

Preset No.3 wrote: »

I was thinking the same myself. If I was LHR bound and landed in SHN or DUB on a divert I would demand that I was allowed to get off. There has to be an issue of false arrest there if they do not allow you to leave. Would this leave an airline open to be sued?

Some diversion are merely to wait until the situation at the original destination improves, they may never go near an airport building. Others are going to be full offloads as soon as they arrive. Depends on the airlines operational plan. I assume the diversions into SNN that took off later were East Coast US flights, the crews had the time buffer to wait around.

BA launched these aircraft hoping for the weather to clear but apparently already had their diversion plan ready to go.......as the diversions were known so far in advance.

Not allowing pax off is a security/operational issue. Since the mid-80's a passenger bag is not supposed to be on an aircraft without the passenger. If they allow you to leave then they must offload your bags, this involves more handling services which may or may not be available at your diversion airport. If they offload you then more pax will follow suit. this will delay the flight so much that the crew will hit their legal max flying time, and the entire aircraft/passenger load will have to overnight because it all started with a single pax demanding to get off.

Another problem could be that the airline cannot disembark pax into the diversion airport. If a European carrier heading to JFK has to divert (to offload pax) they are restricted to airports that have the Immigration facilities for International pax (Newark and Boston are the usual suspects,beyond that you are looking at Washington [IAD] or the like!)

On another angle:The diversion is not part of the mutual contract you agreed with the airline, they have to get you to your destination. So you cannot just get off when you want to. Now if you start demanding to get off then your behaviour could result in you being in breech of your terms of carriage (again agreed by you when you booked) and you will be taken off, albeit under supervision by law enforcement officials.

blackius

Marcusm wrote: »

G-VIIK is definitely a 777; I once had a charge over it for some financing. PLus the VII- is the giveaway!

I didn't notice that,I copied and pasted,clearly a typo.

EchoIndia

The determining factor was the reduced movements rate per hour that had been dictated by the LHR authorities (and the share of those movements that BA would be allowed). Therefore BA must have had a good idea that diversions would be necessary, when they decided to despatch all US-originating flights in the normal way.

Su Campu

What if you only have hand luggage? Can you still say cheerio lads, I get off here?