Planning permission for an abandoned house

The Vigilant Citizen

I'm trying to find some information on rebuilding a derelict house. It was a 2 bedroom cottage, my dad was actually born in the house but when the family got bigger they moved to a new house up the road. So it was left to rot and the walls fell down, all that's left of it now are the foundations and the concrete porch. My grandfather owns the land that the house is on so I don't need to buy the land, I just need to find out about the planning permission and the cost of rebuilding the house.

Surely getting planning permission would be easier as the house is already there, its just been derelict for about 40 years and needs to be rebuilt, as opposed to getting planning permission for a new build?

Also, would the county council or planning bodies look more favourably on someone looking to rebuild a 200 year old family home, rather than just springing up another one off McMansion somewhere in the countryside?

I cant seem to find any information relevant to this situation, could anyone here point me in the right direction?

Any opinions greatly appreciated, thanks.

sydthebeat

The Vigilant Citizen wrote: »

I'm trying to find some information on rebuilding a derelict house. It was a 2 bedroom cottage, my dad was actually born in the house but when the family got bigger they moved to a new house up the road. So it was left to rot and the walls fell down, all that's left of it now are the foundations and the concrete porch. My grandfather owns the land that the house is on so I don't need to buy the land, I just need to find out about the planning permission and the cost of rebuilding the house.

Surely getting planning permission would be easier as the house is already there, its just been derelict for about 40 years and needs to be rebuilt, as opposed to getting planning permission for a new build?

Also, would the county council or planning bodies look more favourably on someone looking to rebuild a 200 year old family home, rather than just springing up another one off McMansion somewhere in the countryside?

I cant seem to find any information relevant to this situation, could anyone here point me in the right direction?

Any opinions greatly appreciated, thanks.

No.

Planning regulations have changed so much in the time since it was abandoned, that it is of very little consequence to a planning application now. Percolation testing, site visibility, building lines etc are all pertinent issues to sport out which didn't exist when the house was first built.

The only tangible advantage is that you can send in a pic and state this is where your dad grew up

Poor Uncle Tom

While sydthebeat is correct in all he has said, some Development Plans put a greater emphasis on the use of 'brownfield' sites as opposed to 'greenfield' ones.

What this means is that since there was a house/dwelling/home/family at this location before, the community serviced the needs of that family while they were there.

It should be easier to argue for putting a replacement house at this location as opposed putting one on a fresh site. But that doesn't change the need to comply with all the regulations as syd said.

So, start with the Development Plan and see how easy it will be to put your case together.

Eoghan Barra

I would say that the best way to save yourself a lot of time and hassle is to contact the local county council planning dept. and arrange a 'pre-planning meeting'. At such a meeting, they will let you know what your chances are and what the potential obstacles are likely to be, etc.

Before you go into the meeting, take plenty of photos and get them printed in A4 size, get detailed o.s. maps of the locality and gather any other documentation that might remotely be relevant, such as material from the county dev. plan, as Poor Uncle Tom says.

While informal, as far as I know anything that results from the meeting will actually form part of the planning record for your site and, if the area planner and engineer are positive about your ideas during the meeting, should make getting planning permission relatively straightforward.

Good luck with it.

The Vigilant Citizen

Thanks for the replies. I will hopefully be starting on this project in the summer.

tanya25

hi how did you get on with this ?

arctictree

Probably a good idea to PM him as he probably wont see your reply. I would be interested too in seeing what happened as we have a similar house on our farm that we are thinking of rebuilding.

GerardKeating

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

While sydthebeat is correct in all he has said, some Development Plans put a greater emphasis on the use of 'brownfield' sites as opposed to 'greenfield' ones.

What this means is that since there was a house/dwelling/home/family at this location before, the community serviced the needs of that family while they were there.

It should be easier to argue for putting a replacement house at this location as opposed putting one on a fresh site. But that doesn't change the need to comply with all the regulations as syd said.

So, start with the Development Plan and see how easy it will be to put your case together.

It might also be the case that the planning permission for the replacement house required that the existing house be demolished.

kieran.

Did the original cottage / house have planning originally if so the existing use can not be abandoned providing that the planning can be resumed without materially altering the structure (check out Molloy Ors vs DPP 2004). Any alterations will require planning.

BryanF

tanya25 wrote: »

hi how did you get on with this ?

The guy hasn't posted in 5 years - thread closed