How the media manipulates your emotions

43109

The western media is a constant reminder that you don't have to think for yourself on foreign affairs. (or anything else for that matter)
You no longer have to worry about the Middle East because someone else is doing that for you. (if you're undecided, you're clearly a terrorist)

Have you ever stopped to think about those issues you ignore on a daily basis which may affect your life in the future?
I do all the time and I'm ****ing pissed off about these stupid Israelis disrupting my life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ1Z3XX2AH0

Ireland has never had a conflict with Iran in it's entire history, yet we are being forced by the US and EU (which consist of UK) to impose economic sanctions for so-called weapons of mass destruction the UN IAEA have said DONT EXIST.

These sanctions are at the behest of Israel because US OF A is Israels bitch.

We've heard all these stupid excuses for invasion before...Afghanistan, Venezuela, Iraq, Libya and..... now Iran.
Who is next I ask you? where does the stupidity end?

The United Kingdom, an imperialist entity has oppressed Irish, scottish and welsh people for centuries, not to mention every other country they occupied around the world including palestine.

They have expanded their ambitions beyond the British Islands into the middle east since the early 1900's and have remained there ever since.

In 1953, Britain and USA overthrew a democratically elected government so they could install a puppet regime to control the oil exports.

The Iranian people were tortured and killed if they resisted Anglo-American (Zionist) occupation.

We don't need another war in the middle east to support the Zionists in UK and US.

Do not support a (Zionist) imperialist war on Iran!

Jeboa Safari

Ah no, where do you get some of this stuff from?

43109 wrote: »

The western media is a constant reminder that you don't have to think for yourself on foreign affairs.

Consuming media doesn't stop people from thinking

43109 wrote: »

You no longer have to worry about the Middle East because someone else is doing that for you.

Most people don't constantly go around worrying about the Middle East anyway, or any other part of the world for that matter, and if they're not interested they'll ignore it, if they are they'll listen. You're also implying that all western media is controlled, which needs hundreds of people to be in on the conspiracy.
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43109 wrote: »

Ireland has never had a conflict with Iran in it's entire history, yet we are being forced by the US and EU (which consist of UK) to impose economic sanctions for so-called weapons of mass destruction the UN IAEA have said DONT EXIST.

We're part of the EU, Eamon Gilmore was at the meeting where the EU agreed to impose sanctions. To quote him "”Here we’re dealing with an undisputed fact that Iran is militarising its nuclear set-up. There is no argument about the threat that that poses,” Mr Gilmore said after the decision was announced.". Whether you agree with him or not is a different matter, but he was democratically elected by the people of this country to represent us on matters like this. If enough people don't support him he knows what will happen him.

43109 wrote: »

We've heard it all before...Afghanistan, Venezuela, Iraq, Libya and now Iran.

Iraq maybe, where have we heard about the weapons of mass destruction from Afghanistan?

43109 wrote: »

The United Kingdom, an imperialist entity has oppressed Irish, scottish and welsh people for centuries, not to mention every other country they occupied around the world including palestine.

They have expanded their ambitions beyond the British Islands into the middle east since the early 1900's and have remained there ever since.

In 1953, Britain and USA overthrew a democratically elected government so they could install a puppet regime to control the oil exports.

The Iranian people were tortured and killed if they resisted Anglo-American (Zionist) occupation.

The UK and the west directly controlled the middle east after the second world war, why did they leave most of it if this was part of some big plan to control the middle east?

43109

drunkmonkey

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

Consuming media doesn't stop people from thinking

Yes but it does bombard them so violently with different things to Rage about they end so divided that everything becomes diluted to such a stage that none of it matters.

Ireland sanctions against Iran and Iran's proposed sanctions against Ireland for the next 15 years should be out main news story at the moment.
Were being walked into a world war and were pretending like the only show in town is about a fiscal treaty.

We've completely lost touch with who we are and what we want, you could say we've become emotionally detached from ourselves as a result of media influence.

Jeboa Safari

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Yes but it does bombard them so violently with different things to Rage about they end so divided that everything becomes diluted to such a stage that none of it matters.

Ireland sanctions against Iran and Iran's proposed sanctions against Ireland for the next 15 years should be out main news story at the moment.
Were being walked into a world war and were pretending like the only show in town is about a fiscal treaty.

We've completely lost touch with who we are and what we want, you could say we've become emotionally detached from ourselves as a result of media influence.

Thats because the main thing that affects us is the fiscal treaty. What makes you think a world war will happen? I doubt the major powers will clash directly with each other over Iran

43109

Here are some insane Zionists like Michelle Bachmann...complete looney.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAYBp7VkE9E

Americans wouldn't vote for this dip**** unless it WANTED WW3

43109

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

Thats because the main thing that affects us is the fiscal treaty. What makes you think a world war will happen? I doubt the major powers will clash directly with each other over Iran

A World War won't happen because China won't Kowtow to Germany and bailout all the nations incapable of running their own country.

A World War WILL happen because of stupidity which I personally will take advantage of.
All those moronic rich people who think the state will protect them...forget it, you're on your own punk.

43109

point proved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3tt474HUBg

-- There will be no war in the Persian Gulf, get on with your life.
What you see is a little game, that's all...be thankful for what you have.

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Who Owns The Media? The 6 Monolithic Corporations That Control Almost Everything We Watch, Hear And Read.
http://radicalprofeminist.blogspot.com/2010/10/dominant-western-media-who-controls-it.html

SKY board of directors:
http://corporate.sky.com/about_sky/our_board_and_management/board

But there is no way that the media has an agenda to manipulate, programme or influence you from childhood till old age, they are honest people....

43109

The US and Israelis invest all their capital in finding out what cooked ham I like....this is a classic example of how stupid these people are..

Let me give you another example....

Let's go to outer space..."NASA develops million dollar pen for space" -- Russians use pencils.

Oh dear...

shedweller

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

Ah no, where do you get some of this stuff from?



Consuming media doesn't stops people from thinking what they don't want you to think

Fixed that for you!

You weren't wrong but i felt it needed a little something.

StupidLikeAFox

43109 wrote: »

Let's go to outer space..."NASA develops million dollar pen for space" -- Russians use pencils.

This just ****ed up you're argument. Its easy to find an article online to backup what your saying, but when you wont check the basics its hard to come across as having a fair and balanced opinion

Wikipedia wrote:

NASA never approached Paul Fisher to develop a pen, nor did Fisher receive any government funding for the pen's development. Fisher invented it independently, and then asked NASA to try it. After the introduction of the AG7 Space Pen, both the American and Soviet (later Russian) space agencies adopted it.

shedweller

ColHol wrote: »

This just ****ed up you're argument. Its easy to find an article online to backup what your saying, but when you wont check the basics its hard to come across as having a fair and balanced opinion

So obviously ALL 43109's posts are now wrong?:rolleyes:
Now prove it.

Brown Bomber

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

Consuming media doesn't stop people from thinking

Consuming lies and propaganda makes you ignorant. Consuming the same lies repeatedly reinforces your ignorance. A highly propagandised brain full of these lies reinforced on a daily basis becomes less than mush, unable to distinguish fact from fiction.

Example: We must invade Iraq they are going to destroy the world!

Becomes....

We must invade Iran they are going to destroy the world!

Lessons learned: None.

Jonny7

43109 wrote: »

The western media is a constant reminder that you don't have to think for yourself on foreign affairs. (or anything else for that matter)

Interesting, how would you categorise the Asian media?

Where would you place El Pais, Der Spiegl and Le Monde?

You no longer have to worry about the Middle East because someone else is doing that for you. (if you're undecided, you're clearly a terrorist)

Have you ever stopped to think about those issues you ignore on a daily basis which may affect your life in the future?
I do all the time and I'm ****ing pissed off about these stupid Israelis disrupting my life.

Are you Palestinian?

These sanctions are at the behest of Israel because US OF A is Israels bitch.

They are also at the behest of Russia and China who didn't veto them.

We've heard all these stupid excuses for invasion before...Afghanistan, Venezuela, Iraq, Libya and..... now Iran.
Who is next I ask you? where does the stupidity end?

Venezuela??

The United Kingdom, an imperialist entity has oppressed Irish, scottish and welsh people for centuries, not to mention every other country they occupied around the world including palestine.

They have expanded their ambitions beyond the British Islands into the middle east since the early 1900's and have remained there ever since.

In 1953, Britain and USA overthrew a democratically elected government so they could install a puppet regime to control the oil exports.

The Iranian people were tortured and killed if they resisted Anglo-American (Zionist) occupation.

We don't need another war in the middle east to support the Zionists in UK and US.
Do not support a (Zionist) imperialist war on Iran!

Hmmmm.

Jeboa Safari

43109 wrote: »

The US and Israelis invest all their capital in finding out what cooked ham I like....this is a classic example of how stupid these people are..

Let me give you another example....

Let's go to outer space..."NASA develops million dollar pen for space" -- Russians use pencils.

Oh dear...

So you've just proven that you'll blindly believe anything you read so long as it backs your opinion that the west are stupid or ignorant. Care to address any other points raised or are you just going to continue posting completely biased or made up rubbish?

Di0genes

43109 wrote: »

A World War WILL happen because of stupidity which I personally will take advantage of.
All those moronic rich people who think the state will protect them...forget it, you're on your own punk.

Ah yes the balance of egotism that you understand how the world really works.

I happen to know a gentleman who was producer for Sky News, moved to Moscow for two years, worked for Russia Today, finished his contract and went back as a freelance producer in sky news.

How do you think the media is created when the people who actually make the news are capable of moving freely from news organisation to news organisation.

For a number of years I worked in News in London, on any even given week I could be CNN, or Sky or Al Jazeera, or Bloomberg, or the BBC depending on who I was freelancing with.

And you're lecturing me on how dogmatic the news is when it comes from one particular source, when you don't know the 1st thing about the people actually working there.

I'd suggest you stop watching youtube videos and read a book by a actual journalist. Flat Earth News, by Nick Davies. He's a actual journalist, not someone repeating the same tedious conspiracy theories. It's a eye opening read about the problems in western media, that isn't a load of nonsense.

43109

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Di0genes, you get award for sh!ttest post so far. congratulations.

humanji

43109 wrote: »

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Di0genes, you get award for sh!ttest post so far. congratulations.

Enough of that.

StupidLikeAFox

shedweller wrote: »

So obviously ALL 43109's posts are now wrong?:rolleyes:
Now prove it.

I didnt say they were all wrong. I just said that he comes across as biased and his credibility took a bit of a hit

shedweller

ColHol wrote: »

I didnt say they were all wrong. I just said that he comes across as biased and his credibility took a bit of a hit

Ok, the apollo pen may not have been the best idea. But we are all biased in some way or another. Some of us here even have problems seeing the conspiracy! (Or lots of conspiracies, from what i see)

Look, the general gist of the thread is that the media can manipulate your emotions. That, surely is not hard to see or understand. Look at advertising. Now tell me that large news companies aren't going to do the same. Look at the BBC news with its heartbeat music alongside the "latest news" Designed purely to get you revved up about whatever it is. Be it the main news or something to distract you from the main news.
Collectively, we are too stupid to see this manipulation. Some of us see it a mile off. Out of those, some actively go out of their way to resist. But it takes some effort to be thorough about it. Well, i just turn off the tv or turn the page, but rest assured, for every one of me, there are thousands that sit there slack jawed while they get fed muck.

Anyway, an example of media manipulation:http://www.scl.cc/

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Watch out for that HUGE white elephant there!

It's not the only one i'm sure. And if somebody doesn't see the conspiracy could they please not bother to post? Maybe quietly lurk until they do see!

steelcityblues

Di0genes wrote: »

Ah yes the balance of egotism that you understand how the world really works.

I happen to know a gentleman who was producer for Sky News, moved to Moscow for two years, worked for Russia Today, finished his contract and went back as a freelance producer in sky news.

How do you think the media is created when the people who actually make the news are capable of moving freely from news organisation to news organisation.

For a number of years I worked in News in London, on any even given week I could be CNN, or Sky or Al Jazeera, or Bloomberg, or the BBC depending on who I was freelancing with.

And you're lecturing me on how dogmatic the news is when it comes from one particular source, when you don't know the 1st thing about the people actually working there.

I'd suggest you stop watching youtube videos and read a book by a actual journalist. Flat Earth News, by Nick Davies. He's a actual journalist, not someone repeating the same tedious conspiracy theories. It's a eye opening read about the problems in western media, that isn't a load of nonsense.

There was a great video put up recently showing the media's hypocrisy on the Iowa primaries. In 2008 - when Obama was a big contender - several of the networks could not stop stressing the importance of winning it, and that whoever did would be a serious contender (Obama won Iowa, and became President).

Fast forward to 2012, and the same networks and talking heads say that it does not mean much if you win Iowa. This was because the scourge of the mainstream media, Ron Paul, had a strong chance of winning the State (only a few percent off 1st place, in the end). So, the general tune had to be changed byFOX, CNN, MSNBC, etc - all within only four years.

Of course, because I found this on you tube, you will probably dismiss as not being a 'source', despite the impressive number of clips shown to the illustrate the point of how they fall in line when necessary.

You can't deny the major stations do on certain issues.

ed2hands

All the head honchos of the media world attend Bilderberg.

uncleoswald

steelcityblues wrote: »

There was a great video put up recently showing the media's hypocrisy on the Iowa primaries. In 2008 - when Obama was a big contender - several of the networks could not stop stressing the importance of winning it, and that whoever did would be a serious contender (Obama won Iowa, and became President).

Fast forward to 2012, and the same networks and talking heads say that it does not mean much if you win Iowa. This was because the scourge of the mainstream media, Ron Paul, had a strong chance of winning the State (only a few percent off 1st place, in the end). So, the general tune had to be changed byFOX, CNN, MSNBC, etc - all within only four years.

One was the Republican primaries, the other the Democratic, different political landscape. Santorum won Iowa, hasn't done him any good so they were obviously right I'd say.

steelcityblues wrote: »

Of course, because I found this on you tube, you will probably dismiss as not being a 'source', despite the impressive number of clips shown to the illustrate the point of how they fall in line when necessary.

You can't deny the major stations do on certain issues.

In line with who? In line with themselves I'd say. The major US stations struggle, or in some case don't even try, to hide their own political leanings. But when the likes of Fox and CNN have such clearly different political motivations it's difficult to see where any accusations of falling in line come from.

Brown Bomber

Jeboa Safari wrote: »

We're part of the EU, Eamon Gilmore was at the meeting where the EU agreed to impose sanctions. To quote him "”Here we’re dealing with an undisputed fact that Iran is militarising its nuclear set-up. There is no argument about the threat that that poses,” Mr Gilmore said after the decision was announced.". Whether you agree with him or not is a different matter, but he was democratically elected by the people of this country to represent us on matters like this. If enough people don't support him he knows what will happen him.

Eamon Gilmore, sure he'd never lie

“I think the Lisbon Treaty is dead. The Irish people have now decided in a referendum that they do not wish to have it ratified therefore Ireland cannot ratify the Lisbon Treaty and therefore the Lisbon Treaty falls.”

Eamon Gilmore, June 13, 2008.

“There is no basis for believing that a second referendum would produce a different result which is any different from the first one.”

Eamon Gilmore following a meeting with French President Nicolas Sarkozy (above), July 21, 2008.

“Gilmore, who has led calls against a second referendum has told the embassy separately that he fully expects, and would support holding a second referendum in 2009. He explained his public posture of opposition to a second reference as ‘politically necessary’ for the time being.”

Ambassador Thomas Foley, in a cable sent on July 23, 2008, published in today’s Irish Independent (not online at present).

steelcityblues

uncleoswald wrote: »

In line with who? In line with themselves I'd say. The major US stations struggle, or in some case don't even try, to hide their own political leanings. But when the likes of Fox and CNN have such clearly different political motivations it's difficult to see where any accusations of falling in line come from.

Have you heard of divide and conquer? Given both parties are heavily financed by Wall Street, these stations are there to push the line that there is a big difference to their viewers. Keep them in narrow thinking boxes, which is emotive.

Why do you think FOX is one station so negative towards Paul? A guy, if you go on party line, should be one of theirs.

Not many senators or representatives, regardless of whether they had a 'D' or 'R' beside their name, voted against the invasion of Iraq. No major difference.

ed2hands

False atrocity stories have become a staple for western nations.

"While i was there, i saw the Iraqi soldiers coming to the hospital with guns.
They took the babies out of the incubators...took the incubators, and left the children to die on the cold floor.."
(cue the tears)


:pac:
No they didn't sweetheart! That's just what Daddy told you to say.

Brown Bomber

Di0genes wrote: »

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I happen to know a gentleman who was producer for Sky News, moved to Moscow for two years, worked for Russia Today, finished his contract and went back as a freelance producer in sky news.

What's his name?

Di0genes wrote: »

. For a number of years I worked in News in London, on any even given week I could be CNN, or Sky or Al Jazeera, or Bloomberg, or the BBC depending on who I was freelancing with.

Peter Oborne in his review of the book you mentioned for The Spectator said:

No journalist with any sense of decency can read this work without at times feeling anger and personal shame.

As a journalist when you read it did you feel a personal shame? Why/Why not?

Di0genes wrote: »

. I'd suggest you stop watching youtube videos and read a book by a actual journalist. Flat Earth News, by Nick Davies. He's a actual journalist, not someone repeating the same tedious conspiracy theories. It's a eye opening read about the problems in western media, that isn't a load of nonsense.

Looks like the same old "tedious conspiracy theories" to me.

He demonstrates how newspapers work as cartels. He provides pages of evidence that reporters are used by intelligence agencies, above all the CIA but also the British Secret Intelligence Service, to place fabricated material in the public domain. He writes a compelling chapter on the way that PR has captured mainstream journalism and converted it into a tool for corporate interests. He provides devastating evidence showing how Blair used certain members of the press as his accomplices to make the case for the Iraq war.
http://www.spectator.co.uk/books/476801/part_4/the-vile-behaviour-of-the-press.thtml

yeah, having read 'Flat earth news', i was wondering why Diogenes brought this up..it does kind of reinforce the point that the media now is a shadow of its former self.. primarily as a result of the 'neo-liberal' model being applied to it since the late eighties..

Dude111

43109 wrote:

The western media is a constant reminder that you don't have to think for yourself on foreign affairs.

Nope...

ITS QUITE IMPORTANT TO HAVE A STRONG MIND IN TODAYS EVIL WORLD!!!

Di0genes

Brown Bomber wrote: »

What's his name?

Peter Oborne in his review of the book you mentioned for The Spectator said:

As a journalist when you read it did you feel a personal shame? Why/Why not?

I'm not a journalist.

espinolman

Editors are above journalists !

enno99

This is only up up for a limited time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cVKX9gW1_M

Havent watched it yet its about subliminals but I suppose its fits in here

RichieC

It's not a CT that the media is out to manipulate emotions and manufacture mass opinion..

shedweller

RichieC wrote: »

It's not a CT that the media is out to manipulate emotions and manufacture mass opinion..

No, but to say they are seems to be quite unpopular!

steelcityblues

To all of the sceptics who think the mass media does not adhere to a code of conformity, take the case of now former FOX presenter, Andrew Napolitano. In recent days , he had his show 'cancelled'.

Only last week, he gave this scathing commentary on the falsity of the two party system. Land of the free, eh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fOaCemmsnNk

uncleoswald

shedweller wrote: »

No, but to say they are seems to be quite unpopular!

I think the difference is skeptics see the media and news sources as been run by people who are out for themselves, who try to manufacture the news so they can sell more product and run by people who have their own agenda and self-interests. Whipping the public into a frenzy on certain issues is good for sales. Down playing or ignoring stories that might get their customers annoyed and looking at other sources is good for business. Getting people elected that will look after their self-interests and have a similar political world view is also good for business. I think if most people here owned a news outlet it would in some way shape the news to your own world view. I wish these institutions were run by people with a passion for real journalism and subjectivity, but they are run by business men.

On the other hand CT's seem to see all of this as part of a larger global agenda, with a shadowy hand guiding all the mainstream media to control and subdue the "sheeple" for a single nefarious purpose.

steelcityblues wrote: »

To all of the sceptics who think the mass media does not adhere to a code of conformity, take the case of now former FOX presenter, Andrew Napolitano. In recent days , he had his show 'cancelled'.

Only last week, he gave this scathing commentary on the falsity of the two party system. Land of the free, eh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fOaCemmsnNk

This is an example of 2+2=5 thinking prevelient in CT's thinking. Here is the man himselfs opinion on the cancelling of not only his show, but a whole host of shows on the underperforming FOX Business channel:

Judge Andrew Napolitano: In television, shows are cancelled all the time. Two of my former shows have been cancelled, and after each cancellation, Fox has rewarded me with more and better work. This cancellation--along with others that accompanied it--was the result of a business judgment here, and is completely unrelated to the FreedomWatch message. It would make a world of a difference for all of us, if you would KINDLY STOP SENDING EMAILS TO FOX. I am well. Your values are strong. I will continue to articulate those values here at Fox. But the emails many of you are sending are unfairly interfering with my work and that of my colleagues here. The emails even violate our values because they interfere with the use of private property. I have accepted the cancellation decision with good cheer and a sense of gearing up for the future. You should as well. As a favor to me, and as I have asked this past weekend, PLEASE STOP SENDING EMAILS TO MY COLLEAGUES AT FOX ABOUT THE CANCELLATION OF FreedomWatch; and please stop NOW.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/14/andrew-napolitano-fans-fox-email_n_1276468.html