canada geese

TriggerPL

hi guys does anyone know where to get a breeding pair of canada geese and if they were released would they survive in the wild long enough to breed !!

terminator2

is this even legal.........:rolleyes:

Gonzor

terminator2 wrote: »

is this even legal.........:rolleyes:

Dont see why not, sure isnt that what we do with pheasants every year?

Then again I guess we dont release with intention of them breeding....

Maybe give your regional game councel a call and have a chat with them and ssee what they say might be the best.

terminator2

phesants dont eat fields full of young crops , geese do , dont think the local farming community will be too happy , or the local golf course for that matter :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Spunk84

there a meance to farms when they land. not sure they are legal you may have to ask like the above said

landkeeper

deliberate release of non native species :rolleyes: guess the answer:)

Gonzor

landkeeper wrote: »

deliberate release of non native species :rolleyes: guess the answer:)

Are pheasants native..?



EDIT: Just after looking up. Nope. Pheasants arent native to this country.

SO like I said, if we can do it with pheasants, then I dont see why you cant do it with geese.

TriggerPL

Gonzor wrote: »

Are pheasants native..?



EDIT: Just after looking up. Nope. Pheasants arent native to this country.

SO like I said, if we can do it with pheasants, then I dont see why you cant do it with geese.

there is some very sound lads on ere cheers for your pm you know who ya are ,

also the lake in question has canada geese flighting into it and feeding on it but then going back to a near by lake . all i wish to do is breed a clutch that will stay on the lake , so i cant see there been a problem .

and if the farmers dont care about the feilds when there is like 500 hundred swans in them then i cant see geese being the problem.

landkeeper

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0928/1224304857053.html
OVER 70 wild and domestic alien animals and plants have been outlawed by the government in a new effort to protect Ireland's fauna.
Minister for Arts Heritage and the Gaeltacht Jimmy Deenihan has signed new EU regulations into law here, and has compiled a "blacklist" of non-native plants and animals to be eradicated.
And anyone holding the blacklisted plants and animals - some of which are used as pets - will be required to "dispose of them appropriately."
The blacklist includes the brown hare, Canada goose, common toad, grey squirrel, ruddy duck, roe deer, wild boar and the siberian chipmunk - which is a popular pet with children.
There are several blacklisted animals banned only on offshore islands to protect bird populations and their own individual fauna.
Animals banned from islands include the red fox, brown rat, black rat and the hedgehog.
The harlequin ladybird is also banned throughout the State as the US native is considered a major pest that is eradicating the native ladybird species.
The law makes it an offence to sell, import, breed, release or allow the invasive species to escape.
The National Parks and Wildlife Service will be monitoring the new law and helping people who have the animals or plants and want to ensure they are in compliance.
"We will be making a concerted effort to work with pet shops to ensure they are not stocking undesirable animals,î said Peter Carvill, the assistant principal officer with the National Parks and Wildlife Service.
"We're not going to penalise people who have bought a chipmunk, because the last thing we want is for people to panic and release them into the wild, but it will be an offence if people try to breed them.
"Walt Disney has a lot to answer for....but really chipmunks are not suitable pets and most children would be just as happy with a guinea pig," he said.
The law will favour native species like the red Irish squirrel, who are killed off by the grey squirrel and chipmunks can spread rabies and also carry ticks which harbour Lyme disease.
Some of the blacklisted animals are imported for hunting such as wild boar, roe deer, and ruddy duck.

beretta391

if you get some im going to shoot them on ya lol

TriggerPL

haha you have to find them first b !! lol

Gonzor

landkeeper wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0928/1224304857053.html
OVER 70 wild and domestic alien animals and plants have been outlawed by the government in a new effort to protect Ireland's fauna.
Minister for Arts Heritage and the Gaeltacht Jimmy Deenihan has signed new EU regulations into law here, and has compiled a "blacklist" of non-native plants and animals to be eradicated.
And anyone holding the blacklisted plants and animals - some of which are used as pets - will be required to "dispose of them appropriately."
The blacklist includes the brown hare, Canada goose, common toad, grey squirrel, ruddy duck, roe deer, wild boar and the siberian chipmunk - which is a popular pet with children.
There are several blacklisted animals banned only on offshore islands to protect bird populations and their own individual fauna.
Animals banned from islands include the red fox, brown rat, black rat and the hedgehog................

I guess that puts an end to that idea then... Maybe you could try for greylag goose or something.

Besides, I would have thoughtif you introduced canada goose onto that lake they would simply become part of the existing flock thats there now and then go off to the other lake when all the others are leaving. At least maybe with a different type of goose they mightened be so inclined to be "part of the group" and might hang around after the others leave......

tac foley

I would have thought, with the demand for ever-larger calibre rifles in the RoI, that importing a breeding pair of European Elk/Elg [we call them moose] would have been a more useful suggestion.

I can't see kids having THEM for pets.

After all, the local Irish Elk was the biggest of them all. For sure you'd need your .338LM for that.

tac

Gonzor

tac foley wrote: »

I would have thought, with the demand for ever-larger calibre rifles in the RoI, that importing a breeding pair of European Elk/Elg [we call them moose] would have been a more useful suggestion.

I can't see kids having THEM for pets.

After all, the local Irish Elk was the biggest of them all. For sure you'd need your .338LM for that.

tac

Good idea Tac, thbut just imagine the headaches that would bring about. I mean just look to the eagles that we are currently trying to re-introduce and all the troubles there. Id say elk would be the same except 10 times worse and probably twice as expensive. Id love to see it happen, but I dont think it will happen in my life-time...... if ever

4200fps

TriggerPL wrote: »

haha you have to find them first b !! lol

there isn't one on this that wouldn't shoot at a goose if they seen one fly over their head while out after geese. id shoot and if i hadnt time to reload or even missed i'd fire my wellie at it.

323

Gonzor wrote: »

I guess that puts an end to that idea then... Maybe you could try for greylag goose or something.

Besides, I would have thoughtif you introduced canada goose onto that lake they would simply become part of the existing flock thats there now and then go off to the other lake when all the others are leaving. At least maybe with a different type of goose they mightened be so inclined to be "part of the group" and might hang around after the others leave......

Absolutely no shortage of greylag around my way. Hundreds in front of my parents house every day since early November.

Don't know how you would go about introducing a migrotary bird like the canada goose though?
Anyone know why they are classed as invasive species? As thought they have always been an occasional visitor here, see an odd one through flocks of migrating white fronts (what they call speckle bellys over tac's way).

TriggerPL

4200fps wrote: »

there isn't one on this that wouldn't shoot at a goose if they seen one fly over their head while out after geese. id shoot and if i hadnt time to reload or even missed i'd fire my wellie at it.

they have to fly remember , ive been looking into it a bit more and if you get a pair and introduce them with there young from a very young age the young will come back to that lake to breed

TriggerPL

323 wrote: »

Absolutely no shortage of greylag around my way. Hundreds in front of my parents house every day since early November.

Don't know how you would go about introducing a migrotary bird like the canada goose though?
Anyone know why they are classed as invasive species? As thought they have always been an occasional visitor here, see an odd one through flocks of migrating white fronts (what they call speckle bellys over tac's way).

some were introduced into england in the 17th century and a law was at the time that you couldnt kill them giving them time to breed and establish them selves these birds dont migrate and have stretch the lenght of britain.