New Car Advice

Croftman

Looking for guidance please. only have a small budget of around 4k or maybe a little over.a few that have seen online are 1.9 or 2 litre Passat,Mondeo and couple of Avensis - all diesel.the tax is a big draw back with these though so also saw a few 307 estates 1.6.has anyone any ideas/recommendations? wit diesel nearly the same price as petrol wud i be best just sticking wit a petrol?i do about 15k or over annually. finally,is an Octavia worth considering?thanks in advance

Al Capwned

The petrol v diesel debate - Dont just look at the price of either - What is really important is the difference between the fuel consumption of either - Diesel is going to be better, so will be more economical.

I would rather spend a few bob more on motor tax a couple of times a year, and make a saving every time i visit the pumps...

Good luck

Croftman

ok thanks.apart from the petrol v diesel debate,what's the thinking on the car choices?

GavMan

alproctor wrote: »

The petrol v diesel debate - Dont just look at the price of either - What is really important is the difference between the fuel consumption of either - Diesel is going to be better, so will be more economical.

I would rather spend a few bob more on motor tax a couple of times a year, and make a saving every time i visit the pumps...

Good luck

But only under certain circumstances. ie long motorway hops.

IMO, 15K isn't nearly enough miles per year to justify a diesel. at least 20K per year

Matthewjohn

id get a petrol as they're cheaper to buy cheaper to tax and would not be that much more thirsty, petrol saloons like the volvo s40 would average around 40 mpg while a diesel mondeo would only average about 45 mpg

Volvo S40 1.6 petrol
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2789802

Ded_Zebra

I agree that it isn't enough milage to justify a diesel. However if you decide that you do want a diesel I would recommend a Fiat Bravo 1.6 Diesel (eco model). My mother has one, drove it for the first time last weekend. It's quick (105hp) and handles well. Also best looking car in it class imo.

Al Capwned

GavMan wrote: »

But only under certain circumstances. ie long motorway hops.

IMO, 15K isn't nearly enough miles per year to justify a diesel. at least 20K per year

Petrol - 15k miles a year @ 30mpg average = 500 gallons = c.2270L = €3470.83 @ 1.529/L

Diesel - 15k miles a year @ 50mpg average = 300 gallons = c.1362L = €2123.36 @ 1.559/L

Prices are at current prices at my local station, giving you a saving of €1347.47.

Perhaps the fuel consumption figures (30/50) may be a bit misleading, but even a 10mpg difference between the two will result in a saving of around €600/year, which will pay the motor tax on a pre 2008 1.9 diesel car.

Matthewjohn

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

I agree that it isn't enough milage to justify a diesel. However if you decide that you do want a diesel I would recommend a Fiat Bravo 1.6 Diesel (eco model). My mother has one, drove it for the first time last weekend. It's quick (105hp) and handles well. Also best looking car in it class imo.

Where would you be able to find a bravo diesel for €4k?

Croftman

ok say i go with a diesel,out of the cars i mentioned above,what would be the feedback on them? passat,mondeo,octavia,307estate

bazz26

alproctor wrote: »

Petrol - 15k miles a year @ 30mpg average = 500 gallons = c.2270L = €3470.83 @ 1.529/L

Diesel - 15k miles a year @ 50mpg average = 300 gallons = c.1362L = €2123.36 @ 1.559/L

Prices are at current prices at my local station, giving you a saving of €1347.47.

Perhaps the fuel consumption figures (30/50) may be a bit misleading, but even a 10mpg difference between the two will result in a saving of around €600/year, which will pay the motor tax on a pre 2008 1.9 diesel car.

You left out the purchase price difference between 2 similar cars except one is petrol the other diesel. The petrol model will be cheaper to buy because they are in less demand. Maintenance also hasn't been taken into account. The diesel one may have more mileage on it so may need worn parts changed sooner than a lower mileage petrol version.

Petrol v diesel not just about mpg savings.

Al Capwned

No i didnt leave anything out - I'm sure the OP will be more than aware of the price difference as soon as they price the cars - I was simply pointing out something that would not be completely obvious.

Anyway, the OP has a budget of c. €4k, so it's not as if there's gonna be a €2000 euro difference between, for example an 04 diesel passat, and an 04 petrol passat.


Tbh, it is also misleading to say that a diesel car would have higher maintenance cost if it had higher mileage. What if a petrol car had 150k miles, and a diesel had 100k miles? Would the petrol car not potentially have a higher chance of something going wrong in that case?

fitz265

passat,mondeo,octavia,307estate
best would be a passat 1.9tdi but an octavia or superb are just a passat but there cheaper with a different badge
im not sure but i tink mondeo are 2.0 turbo diesel which would have higher tax
im not sure about the 307 estate
for 4k do you could get a nice vw bora or a 01 02 audi a4
defo go for diesel do best of luck

Croftman

fitz265 wrote: »

passat,mondeo,octavia,307estate
best would be a passat 1.9tdi but an octavia or superb are just a passat but there cheaper with a different badge
im not sure but i tink mondeo are 2.0 turbo diesel which would have higher tax
im not sure about the 307 estate
for 4k do you could get a nice vw bora or a 01 02 audi a4
defo go for diesel do best of luck

ok have it down to a 05 2litre Mondeo,04/05 1.9litre Passat or a 05 1.9litre Skoda Octavia.all around the same pricewise,mileage and nct - good/bad reports,recommendations?