Will Sky Engineer Install Sky Magic Eye?

Snazzy_Chazzy

I have been looking up info on these Sky magic Eyes. The Sky rep at the shopping centre said they were an "Official Sky Product" but i dont see them listed on their official Web page.
I am getting SKy installed next week and was going to purchase one for upstairs use. The Sky girl on the phone did not know if the Engineer could fit, even though I told her I would Obviosly pay him, I wasnt looking for a freebie lol
"he may be able to fit but im not sure you will need to wait till he arrives at the residence"
Is the sky magic eye an official Sky product like the Sky rep told me? And would/could a SKY engineer fit it if i had it to hand. I would rather it all done by someone that has the various tools and wires etc. Instead of me larking about with it later.

smodgley

im pretty sure he would do it for you

Al Capwned

Is it wireless or wired? Would you have a pic or a link to similar?

Snazzy_Chazzy

alproctor wrote: »

Is it wireless or wired? Would you have a pic or a link to similar?

Hi Al, I havent bought it yet. I heard you can get wireless. I would rather which ever one works best. I got a wireless sender in lidl for tv before and couldnt get it to work was a waste of 25 odd euro. Would you recommend either?

http://www.tvtrade.ie/sky-magic-eye-en.html

http://www.tvtrade.ie/triax-sky-magic-eye.html

http://www.tvtrade.ie/sky-magic-eye-installation-kit.html

Jesus Shaves

Snazzy_Chazzy wrote: »

Hi Al, I havent bought it yet. I heard you can get wireless. I would rather which ever one works best. I got a wireless sender in lidl for tv before and couldnt get it to work was a waste of 25 odd euro. Would you recommend either?

http://www.tvtrade.ie/sky-magic-eye-en.html

http://www.tvtrade.ie/triax-sky-magic-eye.html

http://www.tvtrade.ie/sky-magic-eye-installation-kit.html

The sky magic eye is wired
I purchased an av sender in argos some months ago and it worked perfect, it was the cheapest one too, around €25

Is the house already wired for cable in the 2 rooms you want the sky in?

Al Capwned

From personal experience, i wouldn't use the wireless senders again - i had one two/three years ago, and it was rubbish tbh.

Wired option - You will need a co-axial cable ran from the back of your first box (RF OUT) to the back of your TV eye, which is plugged into the aerial port of your 2nd TV. A little bit more work, but worth it, as I had one of these until recently, and never had a problem with it. It's the running of the cable that causes most work.

EDIT - If your house was wired for cable ie tv points in each room, it may be possible to use these rather than running a cable directly between the two devices.

Snazzy_Chazzy

Well there was an Existing socket to the room. I guess instead of running the co-ax along the wall which will look crap. He could run the sky signal from the main sky box to the tv receiver box outside and connect that way.Bit of work for him though
I was mainly wondering if the Sky engineers are actually allowed to attach other products to the box to get a second signal or would might you get the odd anal guy that would say No way. " sorry your getting a second signal so i cant and i cant tamper with the box like that"

Jesus Shaves

Snazzy_Chazzy wrote: »

Well there was an Existing socket to the room. I guess instead of running the co-ax along the wall which will look crap. He could run the sky signal from the main sky box to the tv receiver box outside and connect that way.Bit of work for him though
I was mainly wondering if the Sky engineers are actually allowed to attach other products to the box to get a second signal or would might you get the odd anal guy that would say No way. " sorry your getting a second signal so i cant and i cant tamper with the box like that"

Nah it wont work like that, the sky eye has to be connected from the rf output on your sky box to your tv in the other room which means a lot of cable depending where the second room where you want to view it is

You could always try the av sender from argos and if it doesn't suit avail of their 16 day money back guarantee

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/5347926/Trail/searchtext%3EAV+SENDER.htm

That's the one i use and it's going up 2 floors

Snazzy_Chazzy

darokane wrote: »

Nah it wont work like that, the sky eye has to be connected from the rf output on your sky box to your tv in the other room which means a lot of cable depending where the second room where you want to view it is

You could always try the av sender from argos and if it doesn't suit avail of their 16 day money back guarantee

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/5347926/Trail/searchtext%3EAV+SENDER.htm

That's the one i use and it's going up 2 floors

AHA ok cheerse darokane, pardon my ignorance so i could use this instead of the sky eye? This is kinda like a wireless Sky magic eye? Or would i use this in conjunction with the Sky magic eye which would negate the use of hard wireing:o
Sorry for the ques

Cantona's Collars

Word of warning-the installer won't do this for free.I've heard of some people being charged crazy sums to have them put in.
Installing one yourself is 99% common sense and 1% technical.Most of the time the problem is simply hiding the cable and this is where the video sender wins out.

I'd bet that the cable to the existing socket in the room runs anywhere other than where you want it,namely the room where the second tv is.

Might be better off asking if he'd run a cable from the dish to the room,then simply buy a receiver (an old skybox can be got for peanuts on adverts.ie) and connect it up for fta in the other room.That way you can watch different channels in each room.

Snazzy_Chazzy

zerks wrote: »

Word of warning-the installer won't do this for free.I've heard of some people being charged crazy sums to have them put in.
Installing one yourself is 99% common sense and 1% technical.Most of the time the problem is simply hiding the cable and this is where the video sender wins out.

I'd bet that the cable to the existing socket in the room runs anywhere other than where you want it,namely the room where the second tv is.

Might be better off asking if he'd run a cable from the dish to the room,then simply buy a receiver (an old skybox can be got for peanuts on adverts.ie) and connect it up for fta in the other room.That way you can watch different channels in each room.

Cheers for your input Zerks:). Instead of the old sky box would a satellite box do the trick? Can you attach standard satellite boxe to a SKY dish? I actually have a spare one of these already connected to my current free to air satellite dish in my bedroom.

http://www.tvtrade.ie/freesat-receiver-sd-grundig.html

http://www.tvtrade.ie/freesat-receiver-sd-grundig.html

You have all been most helpful many thanks boardsies above

Al Capwned

Not sure if your freesat will work - haven't ever installed one of these, but my guess is that it wouldnt work, as the SKY dish is pointed at their satellite, and it would be a hell of a coincidence if the freesat satellite is in the same area.

Cue being corrected by more knowledgeable folks..... :pac:

EDIT _ I stand corrected by post below!!!!

Cantona's Collars

Snazzy_Chazzy wrote: »

Cheers for your input Zerks:). Instead of the old sky box would a satellite box do the trick? Can you attach standard satellite boxe to a SKY dish? I actually have a spare one of these already connected to my current free to air satellite dish in my bedroom.

http://www.tvtrade.ie/freesat-receiver-sd-grundig.html

http://www.tvtrade.ie/freesat-receiver-sd-grundig.html

You have all been most helpful many thanks boardsies above

Did you want the magic eye connected to the bedroom? If so and you'd rather keep what you have then leave as is.The installer might use the existing dish for the install if it's in good nick.It's in Sky's t&c's that they will use existing equipment such as dishes if need be.Just ask him not to forget to reconnect your freesat box when he's finished installing the Sky one.
I run Sky and 2 fta boxes from my dish.
Sky & Freesat come from the same satellite just that the Sky stuff is encrypted.

Cantona's Collars

alproctor wrote: »

Not sure if your freesat will work - haven't ever installed one of these, but my guess is that it wouldnt work, as the SKY dish is pointed at their satellite, and it would be a hell of a coincidence if the freesat satellite is in the same area.

Cue being corrected by more knowledgeable folks..... :pac:

Same satellite broadcasts both Sky and Freesat.;)

Sky don't own the satellites,they merely rent space on them.Same for any broadcaster.

Al Capwned

zerks wrote: »

Same satellite broadcasts both Sky and Freesat.;)

Sky don't own the satellites,they merely rent space on them.Same for any broadcaster.

+1 to my "things learned today" list.... Thanks zerks

Jesus Shaves

Snazzy_Chazzy wrote: »

AHA ok cheerse darokane, pardon my ignorance so i could use this instead of the sky eye? This is kinda like a wireless Sky magic eye? Or would i use this in conjunction with the Sky magic eye which would negate the use of hard wireing:o
Sorry for the ques

Yep, that can be used instead of the sky eye, be worth a try.

biffontour

Sky eyes work well, They are wired straight from the Sky box, I am a Sky engineer and there is no problem doing these Sky eyes as a job on the side and will more than likely do it at the same time as the install, depends on the engineer himself, your looking at 50-60 euro to get it installed fully. Its up to you to agree a price.

With a Av sender it does have a tendency to picking up interference from broadband and other sources.

With a second hand Sky box as a free to air box its fine but you wont get the irish channels and any of your sky channels

With the sky eye, you can hit Pause in your sitting room before going to bed and when in bed hit play.

Easy peassy

Hope this helps

steveon

Avoid wireless senders if you live in an old house, or house with thick concrete walls, wireless senders are prone to interferance, a hard wired magic eye are a far better solution and any tv enginner worth his butter should be able to install one for you.