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Mind-reading program translates brain activity into words !!

  • 01-02-2012 7:13am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭


    Heard this on the beeb early this morning, and thought it was amazing.

    Scientists are hoping to use the technique to communicate with brain damaged patients who are unable to speak.

    From The Guardian.
    Scientists have picked up fragments of people's thoughts by decoding the brain activity caused by words that they hear. The remarkable feat has given researchers fresh insight into how the brain processes language, and raises the tantalising prospect of devices that can return speech to the speechless.

    Though in its infancy, the work paves the way for brain implants that could monitor a person's thoughts and speak words and sentences as they imagine them. Such devices could transform the lives of thousands of people who lose the ability to speak as a result of a stroke or other medical conditions. Experiments on 15 patients in the US showed that a computer could decipher their brain activity and play back words they heard, though at times the words were difficult to recognise.

    "This is exciting in terms of the basic science of how the brain decodes what we hear," said Robert Knight, a senior member of the team and director of the Helen Wills Neuroscience Institute at the University of California, Berkeley.

    "Potentially, the technique could be used to develop an implantable prosthetic device to aid speaking, and for some patients that would be wonderful. The next step is to test whether we can decode a word when a person imagines it. That might sound spooky, but this could really help patients. Perhaps in 10 years it will be as common as grandmother getting a new hip," Knight said. The study is published in the journal PLoS Biology.

    The scientists ran tests on patients who were already in hospital for an operation to treat intractable epilepsy. In that procedure, patients have the top of their skull removed and a net of electrodes laid across the surface of their brain. Doctors use the electrodes to identify the precise trigger point of the patient's fit, before removing the tissue. Sometimes, patients wait for days before they have enough seizures to locate the source of the problem.

    Scientist Brian Pasley enrolled 15 patients to take part. He played each a series of words for five to 10 minutes while recording their brain activity from the electrode nets. He then created computer programs that could recognise sounds encoded in the brain waves.

    The brain seems to break sounds down into their constituent acoustic frequencies. The most important range for speech is 1-8,000 Hertz. Pasley compared the technique to a pianist who can hear a piece in their mind just by knowing which keys are played. He next played a collection of new words to the patients to see if the algorithms could pick out and repeat recognisable words. Among them were words such as "Waldo", "structure", "doubt" and "property".

    The scientists got their best results when they recorded activity in the superior temporal gyrus, part of the brain that sits to one side, above the ear. "I didn't think it could possibly work, but Brian did it," said Knight. "His model can reproduce the sound the patient heard and you can actually recognise the word, though not at a perfect level."

    The prospect of reading minds has led to ethical concerns that the technology could be used covertly or to interrogate criminals and terrorists.

    Knight said that is in the realm of science fiction. "To reproduce what we did, you would have to open up someone's skull and they would have to co-operate." Making a device to help people speak will not be easy. Brain signals that encode imagined words could be harder to decipher and the device must be small and operate wirelessly. Another potential headache is distinguishing between words a person wants to say and thoughts they would rather keep private.

    Jan Schnupp, professor of neuroscience at Oxford University called the work "remarkable".

    "Neuroscientists have long believed that the brain works by translating aspects of the external world, such as spoken words, into patterns of electrical activity. But proving that this is true by showing that it is possible to translate these activity patterns back into the original sound – or at least a fair approximation – is nevertheless a great step forward. It paves the way to rapid progress toward biomedical applications," he said.

    "Some may worry though that this sort of technology might lead to mind-reading devices which could one day be used to eavesdrop on the privacy of our thoughts. Such worries are unjustified. It is worth remembering that these scientists could only get their technique to work because epileptic patients had cooperated closely and willingly with them, and allowed a large array of electrodes to be placed directly on the surface of their brains.

    "We can rest assured that our skulls will remain an impenetrable barrier for any would-be technological mind hacker for any foreseeable future," he added.

    Full Article with demo video

    Amazing possibilities, in the right hands....... :)

    ......but in the wrong hands ? :eek:


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    This isn't new.

    Primitive technology like this has been around for a while. Wait 10 years and you'll actually be able to read thoughts.

    Of course there is ethical quandaries to this too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    :mad: your only telling me now, and here's me using my own brain all the time, why I oughtta...


    amazing technology though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    Sindri wrote: »
    This isn't new.

    Primitive technology like this has been around for a while. Wait 10 years and you'll actually be able to read thoughts.

    Of course there is ethical quandaries to this too.

    I think that's where they are going with this. The demo video shows how the program generates words that a person thinks, because thinking the words creates the same wave pattern in the brain, as saying them. Or something to that effect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Jason Bourne esque.
    People reading my thoughts ey...
    Oh goddie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    marcsignal wrote: »
    Amazing possibilities, in the right hands....... :)

    ......but in the wrong hands ? :eek:

    Easy fix.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    Christ. Some of the stuff that goes on in my head you wouldn't even find on the Internet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    well they're going to have to rethink the next WKD ad campaign :D

    Watch to end..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    ROBINGAGA wrote: »
    Good thinking..

    You want this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    well Im sure you all know what I think about this.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    50 years and they'll be uploading shit to your brain.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,955 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    The next step would be a transmitter so that you could send thoughts from brain to brain. Then some sort of interface to the internet and we'll all be like Professor X.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    And it was discovered the male brain just thought sex sex sex sex


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    marcsignal wrote: »
    Heard this on the beeb early this morning, and thought it was amazing.

    Scientists are hoping to use the technique to communicate with brain damaged patients who are unable to speak.

    From The Guardian.



    Full Article with demo video

    Amazing possibilities, in the right hands....... :)

    ......but in the wrong hands ? :eek:

    What they'll actually use it for is to interogate people and monitor "terrorists" It's fast becomming a very scary big brother world we live in. Our kids wont be able to have a **** without it regestering on some international masturbation database!:mad:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭Deus Ex Machina


    44leto wrote: »
    And it was discovered the male brain just thought sex sex sex sex

    Haha, imagine if somebody was taken in to do a demonstration at a science show and he was sitting there and they strapped it on his head then suddenly you hear his thoughts and it's like "I'LL COME UP YOUR HOLE!!! I'LL COME UP YOUR FUÇKING HOLE!!!" as he's there staring at the woman doing the demonstration!


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