Speed van flash

jennybenny

Hi boys and girls today I was on the back roads of kilcullen and I'm pretty sure I was doing the rite speed limit but the van flashed me. Does this mean I was over the limit and got done or does it flash all cars? There was traffic goin the other way so is it even possible they where speeding. Have 5 points can't afford another

Tallon

jennybenny wrote: »

Have 5 points can't afford another

Should probably slow down and learn your lesson then...

It is possible it was the other side of the road, but not likely.

When you say "pretty sure" you were doing the right limit, do you think you could have been speeding?

You don't have to tell us the truth, but you should know yourself if it was justified

jennybenny

Tallon wrote: »

jennybenny wrote: »

Have 5 points can't afford another

Should probably slow down and learn your lesson then...

It is possible it was the other side of the road, but not likely.

When you say "pretty sure" you were doing the right limit, do you think you could have been speeding?

You don't have to tell us the truth, but you should know yourself if it was justified

I was crawling as usual. I know I have othe points and should have learned from them but they are from other things... I'm learning. Does the van flash every car?

godtabh

jennybenny wrote: »

Does the van flash every car?

I dont think so. Why would it?

smaktardis

i dont know for sure about this one. i got flashed from a speed fan middle of last year on the N4 before the motorway and nothing ever materialised. i was doing about 100 in a 80 zone.

jennybenny

smaktardis wrote: »

i dont know for sure about this one. i got flashed from a speed fan middle of last year on the N4 before the motorway and nothing ever materialised. i was doing about 100 in a 80 zone.

Yeah finger crossed. Thanks

Tallon

jennybenny wrote: »

I was crawling as usual. I know I have othe points and should have learned from them but they are from other things... I'm learning. Does the van flash every car?

If every car is speeding, then yes

keithclancy

The vans use flashes ?

The ones here all use IR.

langdang

keithclancy wrote: »

The vans use flashes ?

The ones here all use IR.

I thought the go safe vans were the same - IR, no flash.

vectra

jennybenny wrote: »

Does the van flash every car?

This one does

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyiAPLHUfMw

subway

Some of them flash, op strongly suspect you were caught

Doyler92

vectra wrote: »

This one does

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyiAPLHUfMw

Remi gaillard - always seems to make me laugh.

-Corkie-

The Garda Gatso vans flash whilst the Go safe do not..

MugMugs

Hi OP. Could it have been a reflection of a headlights off the van?

Deco99

Just passed one of the speed vans, was doin 100km/h on a 100km/h zone, i know cause i had cruise control on, spotted the van and a flash. there was a car behind me but how likely was it that it was them? i was fairly close when it flashed. i thought there was a bit of leeway too, pretty harsh if i get done. no one has answered though whether they only flash when someone is caught?

goz83

jennybenny wrote: »

I was crawling as usual. I know I have othe points and should have learned from them but they are from other things... I'm learning. Does the van flash every car?

What are you learning exactly? The rules of the road, or how to break them without getting caught? With 5 points most people cop on and make an effort. Looks like you were caught and will be adding more points to your license. Insurers will be having a field day with you. And women get smaller premiums? Makes me ant to hurl. I have 0 points (but maybe i just haven't been caught )

I'm not suggesting you crawl along as you said in your sarcastic post, but atleast try to keep your speed down. You're either very unlucky, or breaking too many rules, which you needed to learn before being given a license in the first place.

This leads me to a question. Do you have a full license, and if not, was there a fully licensed driver in the car with you? I only ask, because you say you're still learning, but that cuts no cheese with me.

shane.

Deco99 wrote: »

Just passed one of the speed vans, was doin 100km/h on a 100km/h zone, i know cause i had cruise control on, spotted the van and a flash. there was a car behind me but how likely was it that it was them? i was fairly close when it flashed. i thought there was a bit of leeway too, pretty harsh if i get done. no one has answered though whether they only flash when someone is caught?

why wud you get done if you were doing 100km in a 100km zone!!!

keithclancy

shane. wrote: »

why wud you get done if you were doing 100km in a 100km zone!!!

If you pass the static cams here in Germany sometimes they flash even if your under the speed limit, i've been told its to do with Calibration for the flash so the resulting picture is not under or overexposed.

martingriff

jennybenny wrote: »

Hi boys and girls today I was on the back roads of kilcullen and I'm pretty sure I was doing the rite speed limit but the van flashed me. Does this mean I was over the limit and got done or does it flash all cars? There was traffic goin the other way so is it even possible they where speeding. Have 5 points can't afford another

Are you sure it was for speed depending on what Van it is I think they can also get you for no seat belt and other things. (May be wrong)

Deco99

shane. wrote: »

why wud you get done if you were doing 100km in a 100km zone!!!

maybe speedometer off a few % i was doin 100 on the button. year old car with original tyres, recently pumped up to recommended pressure. i dont get how i would get caught either but the thing definitlely flashed. i'll know in two weeks or can it take longer?

Armaghmagic

My car has an analogue Speedo in mph and a digital reading in kph. My car shows, and I saw an old Top Gear about 10 years ago (when it was good) and they proved that when your shows you are doing between 10-60kph , you are actually doing a bit more, but any speed over this is actually less than shows on your Speedo.

I tested this and when the needle is pointing directly at 100kph (60mph), the digital reading is about 95kph. So for the van to flash you must have been a fair bit over, as you have been given leeway by the van (5% as far as I'm aware), plus about the same from your Speedo!

keithclancy

Armaghmagic wrote: »

My car has an analogue Speedo in mph and a digital reading in kph. My car shows, and I saw an old Top Gear about 10 years ago (when it was good) and they proved that when your shows you are doing between 10-60kph , you are actually doing a bit more, but any speed over this is actually less than shows on your Speedo.

I tested this and when the needle is pointing directly at 100kph (60mph), the digital reading is about 95kph. So for the van to flash you must have been a fair bit over, as you have been given leeway by the van (5% as far as I'm aware), plus about the same from your Speedo!

Nah:

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:32000L0007:EN:HTML

2.3.7. the speed displayed must never be lower than the actual speed. Between speed V1, read on the speedometer and actual speed V2: there must be the following relationship with the test values specified in item 2.3.5 and between those values:

0 <= (V1 - V2) <= 0,1 · V2 + 4 km/h.

Deco99

Armaghmagic wrote: »

My car has an analogue Speedo in mph and a digital reading in kph. My car shows, and I saw an old Top Gear about 10 years ago (when it was good) and they proved that when your shows you are doing between 10-60kph , you are actually doing a bit more, but any speed over this is actually less than shows on your Speedo.

I tested this and when the needle is pointing directly at 100kph (60mph), the digital reading is about 95kph. So for the van to flash you must have been a fair bit over, as you have been given leeway by the van (5% as far as I'm aware), plus about the same from your Speedo!

Thanks for the info, well if i do get a fine i'll have to carry car to garage cause i know for a fact i was doin 100k on the button with analogue, i know this cause a car flashed a bit before the van so i put the speed control at exactly 100k not above. my guess so is either the car behind me was speeding and had just caught up to me or some sort of test shot.

i'll post back with an update if i actually do pick up a fine, again what i'm saying is truth why would i come here and rant on about something that was a lie

langdang

Standard wheels and tyres? Or bigger than normal?

Lawless2k12

Deco99 wrote: »

Thanks for the info, well if i do get a fine i'll have to carry car to garage cause i know for a fact i was doin 100k on the button with analogue, i know this cause a car flashed a bit before the van so i put the speed control at exactly 100k not above. my guess so is either the car behind me was speeding and had just caught up to me or some sort of test shot.

I believe the camera's can detect your speed at quite a distance (a few hundred metres) so if you had been a bit over the limit before you saw the camera (even 1km will do it) then your done for. A friend of mine was done for doing 101km in a 100km zone by these new camera vans from "Go safe" I think. At least the guards would give you a 5 to 10% buffer zone!

Heroditas

martingriff wrote: »

Are you sure it was for speed depending on what Van it is I think they can also get you for no seat belt and other things. (May be wrong)

No no, you're thinking of if people are on their mobile phones.

fletch

goz83 wrote: »

And women get smaller premiums?

Not for much longer
http://www.independent.co.uk/money/insurance/european-sex-ruling-on-car-insurance-should-not-drive-women-over-the-edge-2232811.html

ronan45

Hypothetically. If you see one of these vans the SECOND its in visual range and you break hard will it detect your speed. Or can these detect your speed the second your in visual range? IE if you are far enough from them can you jam on in time and not be nailed?
I have no penalty points by thee way just wondering

Bray Header

Tallon wrote: »

Should probably slow down and learn your lesson then...

It is possible it was the other side of the road, but not likely.

When you say "pretty sure" you were doing the right limit, do you think you could have been speeding?

You don't have to tell us the truth, but you should know yourself if it was justified

He asked a question - not for a lesson in morality or philosophy

MugMugs

Bray Header wrote: »

He asked a question - not for a lesson in morality or philosophy

goz83 wrote: »

What are you learning exactly? The rules of the road, or how to break them without getting caught? With 5 points most people cop on and make an effort. Looks like you were caught and will be adding more points to your license. Insurers will be having a field day with you. And women get smaller premiums? Makes me ant to hurl. I have 0 points (but maybe i just haven't been caught )

I'm not suggesting you crawl along as you said in your sarcastic post, but atleast try to keep your speed down. You're either very unlucky, or breaking too many rules, which you needed to learn before being given a license in the first place.

This leads me to a question. Do you have a full license, and if not, was there a fully licensed driver in the car with you? I only ask, because you say you're still learning, but that cuts no cheese with me.

I presume you're both aware that those comments were back in January of this year?

slimjimmc

Deco99 wrote: »

Thanks for the info, well if i do get a fine i'll have to carry car to garage cause i know for a fact i was doin 100k on the button with analogue, i know this cause a car flashed a bit before the van so i put the speed control at exactly 100k not above. my guess so is either the car behind me was speeding and had just caught up to me or some sort of test shot.

i'll post back with an update if i actually do pick up a fine, again what i'm saying is truth why would i come here and rant on about something that was a lie

His info is wrong, he's got is ar$eways. Analogue speedometers worldwide are designed to over-read not under read your true speed. Your true speed will always be lower than the indicated speed (assuming you haven't got bigger wheels on).

Keithclancy has already quoted the formula used.
If your analogue speedo showed 100km/h then your true speed couldn't have been any higher than 96km/h.




What type of van was it, was is a Garda van or one of the Go-Safe vans. Are you 100% sure it was even a speed van at all and not just an innocent van parked up, with reflections bouncing off the back windows?

Andrewf20

I was flashed on the N4 despite doing the speed limit. Havent heard anything. That was 3 months ago.

Deco99

slimjimmc wrote: »

His info is wrong, he's got is ar$eways. Analogue speedometers worldwide are designed to over-read not under read your true speed. Your true speed will always be lower than the indicated speed (assuming you haven't got bigger wheels on).

Keithclancy has already quoted the formula used.
If your analogue speedo showed 100km/h then your true speed couldn't have been any higher than 96km/h.




What type of van was it, was is a Garda van or one of the Go-Safe vans. Are you 100% sure it was even a speed van at all and not just an innocent van parked up, with reflections bouncing off the back windows?

It was a speed van just inside one of the designated areas, and it was a small light came on as i passed on top lefthand side of the back of the van, in two weeks i'll know if i was speeding or not anyway, i could possibly have been over the limit a km out but not much closer than that cause i watch my speed very carefully, especially on that road

martingriff

Heroditas wrote: »

No no, you're thinking of if people are on their mobile phones.

cool thanks

goz83

MugMugs wrote: »

I presume you're both aware that those comments were back in January of this year?

I was just checking if she was still learning :rolleyes:

Deco99

Its been over 15 days since i passed the van and i saw the flashing light and no letter in the post. We think i'm in the clear?

Armaghmagic

Deco99 wrote: »

Its been over 15 days since i passed the van and i saw the flashing light and no letter in the post. We think i'm in the clear?

Can take up to 6 months to get the letter......after that you are clear afaik!

keithclancy

Deco99 wrote: »

Its been over 15 days since i passed the van and i saw the flashing light and no letter in the post. We think i'm in the clear?

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